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[STORIES] [TRAILHEAD] We Tell Stories
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lellow
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mseckington wrote:


B. We have to find two "special names" for the girl and the evil king.
I've tried using Alice as the girl's name, but I think the only thing that's different is what she replies to the Goblin when he calls her Alice (something like: "hey howda ya knew my name?")


I tried it with Alice too and didn't get anything different, I've also tried Jack, Jacques and Jacomo for the king and no change...

Can't really think of any other names that have been significant so far. Unless it's a story about Marsh-Ayre and Hattie Loon Rolling Eyes

Anyone else had any luck?

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veebee
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 		Hattie Loone could be the Moon ( La Lune)?

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Kirjava
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 		From spinankle's library,

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you can also view Mr. Marsh-Ayre's profile, which is chock full of kloos: http://www.librarything.com/profile/spinankle

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sebFlyte
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 		The Black Mirror
Anyone have a copy of Borges' The Mirror of Ink around?

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"We found a secret, the three of us. A black mirror and a set of instructions. Follow the instructions and all the stories in the world will be yours. And if you know the stories, why, you know the dreams of humanity. We weren't greedy - we're not that sort at all. But we were foolish. I, especially. After what happened to Hattie, I should have known better. But I thought, with the cards, I could control it." -- from the Spinankle profile linked before.

This is very, very reminiscent of Borges. Penguin published a mini-set of short stories by him under that title, including the titular story (which are extracted from a larger work) when they recently published their 70th anniversary paperback set.

The ruler's name from that story could prove key, as may one of ther other stories in there concerning a library...

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veebee
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 		Spinankle says in his profile that he can't remember the other womans name, and could only remember " Cheese or Treacle" Just for giggles, I googled that phrase, and to my surprise found a forum entry by a person called Alice! Probably not important, but here it is anyway!

Quote:
Alice Spotted Dick-Spotted or Dog; is a traditional British dessert made from suet pastry and dried fruit—namely currants. And therein lies the first clue—the currants are the 'spots'. Secondly, the suet pastry is rolled Swiss or American Jellyroll style—that represents the 'dog'.

'Possibly "pudding" became "puddink" and "puddick" and then just "dick."

The word "dick" has appeared in any number of strange places. Around the 1840s, "dick" was used to mean a type of hard cheese; when treacle sauce was added, it became "treacle dick", and finally when currants or raisins were added (looking like little spots), the "spotted_dick" was born.

The earliest recipes for spotted dick are from 1847. For non-British readers, "spotted_dick" is a boiled suet pudding, with bits of dried fruit (usually raisins or currants) that (as already noted) look like little spots.

The Oxford Companion to Food comments that, strictly speaking, "spotted_dick" is made by taking a flat sheet, spreading sugar and raisins on it, then rolling it up. A similar dessert is "spotted dog," a plain cylinder of suet paste with the raisins and currants and sugar stuck into it, so that the spots are visible on the outside. Both spotted dick and spotted dog were traditionally boiled (or even steamed) in a cloth, but nowadays they are usually baked.

The dessert is slightly different in Ireland. In Ireland in the late 1800s, the tradition of yeast-bread manufacture was not strong, so most breads were raised with bicarbonate of soda and an acid, rather than with yeast, and thus called soda breads. Thus, the spotted_dick in Ireland is sweet soda bread, with sugar, currants, and raisins, and it's also called the spotted dog or railway cake. '


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batgirl
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 		I've just emailed Alice with the following:

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Hi again Alice,

Through the latest story posted in Penguin's project, there is a link to a site which I think will interest you.
http://www.librarything.com/profile.php?view=spinankle

It mentions Hattie Loon and what sounds like your mirror, I think it is written my Mr Marsh-Ayre. He says at the bottom that you're the only one who can find out what's on the cards and bring him back from this other dimension he seems to be in.

You seem to be linked to all of these stories so far, I really think you need to stop writing and work with us on finding out these cards - maybe there is something else in the back room of the shop which might help, the website mentions instructions, maybe you can find them and it might help?

Daisy


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abulafia
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 		Hands towards Earth and Heaven
The penultimate page of MO talks about having one hand toward the Heavens and the other towards Earth, which in my mind sounds specifically like:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_School_of_Athens


...especially given the 'elements' reference.

I have nothing further than that - sorry!

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sebFlyte
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 		D'oh.

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Cheese and Treacle. We alread have treacle and ink, so why not cheese and ink?.

Et voila.

Judging by the aparrent age I don't think it's relevant, but the mad old woman screaming on the hill is an image that sits rather well with Spinankle's story.


[apologies if I'm overusing spolier tags, btw. Better safe than sorry, etc.]
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:48 pm
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abulafia
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 		On tracle (and cheese?)
Coincidence?
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http://www.sabian.org/alicech7.htm

Search for treacle...

And as for cheese?
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Mice eat it...?


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ALISDAIRPARK
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batgirl wrote:
Is there any meaning I'm missing about the suspiciously unusual name Christolina Minaret as well...?
I've tried to think of one, but not really got anything...a minaret is a type of tower...maybe crytal tower? doesn't ring any bells....

BTW I've noticed a disturbing amount of solves by guests, I do hope there isn't anything improper going on....

EDIT - so the other story is about March Hare and his search for the cards... the third person, with the "cheese or treacle" can'tbe Alice, because he mentions her name later...
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nara
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 		Treacle
Not being from the UK I can only guess everyone else knows what a Treacle is. I looked it up and found this page:

http://www.treacle.net/

If you look down the bottom is says Why? ANd has a link that says Cause of this. Click that link.

I'm in as a guest but not improper..was just trying to resist the temptation to sign up of another account and resist getting hooked on this thing. I think it is too late on the latter and will go through sign up at some point today.

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veebee
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 		I am actually registered, but can't log-in for some reason.
I have looked into the author thing, you can see what I got so far here:

http://www.welovepuzzles.com/jforum/posts/list/30/640.page#10571

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abulafia
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 		Plot outline
This is going to assume that you're up to speed with everything so far on this forum! Therefore I'm afraid I should probably hide the whole thing in spoiler text - sorry if that's boring...

Abulafia's thoughts/theory on what's going on.
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Marsh, Hattie, and someone who will probably correspond to the Dormouse (all at the tea party in Alice in Wonderland) found a mirror somewhere that connects them with every story ever.
Somehow they get trapped inside the mirror (through overuse, probably) and, by association, the story world, and at least Marsh is attempting to escape from it. As such they cannot communicate with the outside world save through invading other people's stories, and leaving these clues in them. This is his reference to the hermit crab - he doesn't have his own home, but invades the homes of others.
(interesting point: the third story has four choices at every stage except where you can choose who you meet, where there is a fifth 'crowbarred' in (the goblin.)
Interesting point 2: The rabbit/hare is described as the messenger between worlds in Myth. Obj. and it is that which leaves the clue on how to get to the snipr link - is Christolina Minaret also on the 'other side' or Other Land as MythObj would have it. But then reading the MythO book, large portions of it seem to be ripped from Wikipedia, and the rest are written with a very similar style to Marsh's writing in his note to Alice, and also in the spinankle profile - is he Christolina?)
Then there is the cards... The forum rules won't allow me to use the T A R O T word, so that's why I've written it like that! Anyway, so far we have at least Death alluded to, The Devil (the second featured page in MythO) and the Hermit himself. Possibly also the Fool (the gentleman in scarlet who turns into a snake) and the Moon (Hattie Loon, as in lunatic, as in moon.)

... and breathe.


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ALISDAIRPARK
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 		Re: Treacle
nara wrote:
If you look down the bottom is says Why? ANd has a link that says Cause of this. Click that link.
I think that's got to be one of life's funny little synchronicities...

veebee, not sure what you mean by the author thing?
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 		Revelations!
It is I!
I am laying claim to all of abulafia's comments. Not only because they're awesome, but because they're mine. In my ineffable greatness I had forgotten I already had a username on here...

Oops.

Hi.

(Just to make the point that abulafia is a goody not a baddy)
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