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drizjr
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[RING] Eli Hunt's Book "The Lost Games" cover image and waveform icons on thelostgames We've all seen the gif on Eli Hunt's website announcing "Look for my upcoming book: The Lost Games, Forgotten Mysteries and Urban Legends from the Ancient Olympics. Available Fall 2008. " With a rather long mouse over/ alternate text, "Eli Hunt's latest book recounts the mysterious alternate history of the Ancient Games."
Taking a closer look at the image on the cover (see attached), I was curious as to what choice Eli would have made to signify his theories. The Pyrons Shard?... nope. The agonothetai plate?... not that either. It's a coin found in Gaza of "the Hebrew Godhead as a solar Zeus". Huh?
I'm still researching the coin, but here's a start for those interested.
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In this connection we must take account of a unique silver drachma, or quarter-shekel, which has been for many years in the British Museum' (pl. xxi (47K) and fig. 17l a, b (17K)). It is struck on the Phoenician standard. The obverse shows a bearded head in three-quarter position (not double-struck) facing towards the right and wearing a crested Corinthian helmet with a bay-wreath upon it. The reverse has a square incuse surrounded by a spiral border, within which we see a bearded divinity enthroned. He wears a long garment, which covers his right arm and extends to his feet. He is seated on a winged and wheeled seat: the wing is archaic in type and rises high behind his back; the wheel has six spokes and an inner ring round its axle. The god has an eagle (or hawk ?) on his out-stretched left hand. Before him in the lower right hand corner of the square is an ugly bearded head. In the field above the seated deity are the Phoenician letters (see above), that is, YHW.
A very interesting bit of info, particularly in light of Lucie's recent dream leading her towards the West Bank.
or it may be nothing of great significance. Does anyone care to ask Eli about it?
(edited the subject to reflect the direction this thread took.)
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thebruce
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nice find... there's now a page for info, with a bit of content. seems like it should be relevent
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:03 am
drizjr
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Thanks, thebruce.
I'm drafting an email to Eli now to ask him about it.
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:17 am
Lysithea
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Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Posts: 468 Location: Australia
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I've been wondering if Eli's book will really be sold at the end of the year. It could be a momento of The Lost Ring, and contain the codex pages and other ARGy goodness.
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:47 am
danteIL
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Okay I know that this is kind of a stretch, but I was looking at Eli's site and I noticed that the icons used for each of the podcasts shows a different image of a speech waveform:
The Lost Sport of Olympia:
The Ancient Game-Keepers:
The Omphalos Code:
The Labyrinth:
Stay tuned:
Is this just for show, or could there be something there?
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:32 pm
VictorSueiro
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BMP to WAV "conversion"...
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:26 am
Lysithea
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I think it is likely that each icon represents a small part of each respective podcast. There could well be a hidden message if you locate each sound bite and then string the parts together.
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:23 am
VictorSueiro
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Lysithea wrote:
I think it is likely that each icon represents a small part of each respective podcast. There could well be a hidden message if you locate each sound bite and then string the parts together.
Im agree...
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:45 pm
backspace124
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Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Posts: 15
sweet. im gonna try to do it an see if it says something.
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:09 pm
chaobell
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Joined: 28 Mar 2008 Posts: 57 Location: Houston, TX
I tinkered with the sound bits and slowed them way down and such, but couldn't get anything interesting out of them but crackles and rumbles.
Then again, my sound-tinkering setup is limited to Windows Sound Recorder here at work, so your mileage may vary.
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:44 pm
danteIL
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Joined: 08 May 2006 Posts: 1990
chaobell wrote:
I tinkered with the sound bits and slowed them way down and such, but couldn't get anything interesting out of them but crackles and rumbles.
Then again, my sound-tinkering setup is limited to Windows Sound Recorder here at work, so your mileage may vary.
Wait... how did you tinker with *what* sound bits?? There are no sounds there, only images of sound. Isn't that the problem?
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:46 pm
chaobell
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danteIL wrote:
Wait... how did you tinker with *what* sound bits?? There are no sounds there, only images of sound. Isn't that the problem?
*points up*
VictorSueiro wrote:
BMP to WAV "conversion"...
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:44 pm
Rogi Ocnorb
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Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 4266 Location: Where the cheese is free.
I'm no expert in the ways of either audio or image data storage; But, I would assume that, without resorting to steganography, you could have either an intelligible image or an intelligible audio snippet, but not both. At least not in a .GIF source with no layers. The old BMP2WAV (or GIF2WAV) tools just produced audio based on the pixels in an image. In otherwords, noise. Sometimes kinda cool noise, but still just noise. Doing the same thing in reverse produced a picture which was best described as "static".
If you could recreate the waveforms in say, Audacity (And if they all have the same amplitude and meter), you might get something.
Finding a place in one or more of the podcast files where the spectral image matches, seems like a lot better alternative, though.
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:16 pm
drizjr
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You know what else looks similar to those waveform images accompanying each podcast? Seismograms .... from earthquakes.
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:40 pm
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