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[mr.judkins]

[LOST SPORT] Practicing Drawing Human-Size Labyrinths

[Lysithea]

That looks very neat.

For some reason the 3-circuit labyrinth in the codex appears to be reversed compared with the 5- and 7-circuit labyrinths.

[Tenchizard]

[sixsidedsquare]

EDIT- Wait wait wait.. the size stated in the codex is 30ft by 26ft, this design is 30ft by 28 ft.. Drat. Back to the drawing board with me.


I decided to mess around with a bit more along the lines of the quick drawing I did before (linked above) and I think I've got the geometry of the 7 labyrinth worked out now. For ages it refused to work nicely, till I realized the half foot split in the middle then it all just fit. The crosses show the centers for the respective arcs, and the green and blue crosses also turn out to be the ends of the 2 lines that make up the whole thing:

Older image here.

if you can just mark out the places where the crosses are and the lines where circles cut off, this would be pretty easy to draw with some chalk, a ruler and a bit of string to do your curves (with someone holding one end at the x).

DOUBLE EDIT-

Hum. The other pic, now in the crossed out stuff, kinda works if you give it a shunt at the bottom, but there is an ugly overlap between the red and green as you can see below. To be honest, the whole thing would be much prettier if it were just 30ft by 27ft. Anyone else have any thoughts?


Closest I could make it to 30x26 with nice regular geometries

[jasper]

good job!

I think it only makes sense to have the layout match from 3 circuits to 5 and 7. If the athletes are supposed to develop muscle memory, they can do that better if the lefts and rights and reverses stay the same as they progress to larger labyrinths.

Is this a mystery- why is it reversed in the drawings in the codex? Is it like the tattoos in codex chapter 2 where the text says the athletes all had tattoos on right arms and then has a drawing of a left? Are we seeing something that matters? Or is it just a matter of the illustrator being less than accurate?

[Tenchizard]

I see some kind of problem with your drawing. The red cross is off. Take a look here. There is a pink dot just between the cross and the first top corner to its right, which is the centre of the circunferences you have to draw. In your drawing, you would have to move the red cross upwards 1ft, so it is exactly between the top point of the cross and the top point of the top-right corner (not the top right dot). So after drawing the seed pattern, you would have: green cross (topleft dot)-2ft-top spot of the topleft corner-2ft-top spot of the central cross-1ft-red cross(spiral centre)-1ft-top spot of the topright corner-2ft-green cross (topright dot)

I don't know if you understand me... I'll try drawing something with paint :/

EDIT: edited your pic, so you understand what I mean...
EDIT while editing: Ok, you got it ^_^ anyway here is your pic edited using paint

[sixsidedsquare]

Oh hahaha, there is already how to draw these out there? Whoops
The issue I was having wasn't with the normal way to draw it, but how on earth that classic pattern could be drawn to be 30 foot by 26 foot. When drawn out like in the link you posted Tenchizard, it's 30 units by 27 units, which doesn't fit the specified space the codex says you need. Then I realized I was just thinking too square:



The plain old shape does come to approx (not sure about exact calculation) 30 units by 26 units (2 unit path width), if you just give it a little tilt.

Anyone want to work out the exact dimensions this would give? The only tricky part is working out the exact tilt needed to make those 2 bottom points on the same line horizontally.

[thebruce]

no need to worry about the tilt - the "27ft" design -is- the "26ft" design. you're just measuring at an angle rather than following the grid lines.

that is, if you measure the regular design from the midpoint between the bottom two curves, up to the top of the pattern, it'll be 26ft. If you measure it from the very lowest point as per the pattern to the top, it'll be 27ft.

You're good


ETA: see attachment

[Oriza]

Couple questions

[danteIL]

Re: Couple questions

[mr.judkins]

Chapter 4 of the Codex outlines the three suggested Labyrinth sizes:

[lizmuir]

What about the 5-circuit labryinth? It seems to have a strange shape.

[akralia]

Good work getting out there and doing it!

I've twittered to you about this, but I wanted to share this site with everyone because it's So Good.

http://www.labyrinthos.net/classical.htm

This is the method that is believed to have been used by the ancients, as it embodies the concepts of Sacred Geometry, and is very profound mathematically

note that the pythagorean theorem is expressed by the stake pattern, the freemasons say that by meditating on this theorem that one can come to understand the nature of god

but it's so simple to make, it only needs five fixed points and a knotted cord to lay out.

enjoy

[ariock]

[AUZ505]