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[PUZZLE] ladybee777 email 8/03
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chip_4321
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Has anyone tried emailing text from the Halo novels?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:20 pm
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Killer-of-Lawyers
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To what end? I mean, there isn't any evidence that points this to halo. And if it does have something to do with halo, that would be like Star Trek mentioning a series of the same name back in the mid-20th centurie in one episiod. You usualy assume that in a piece of litature refering to a made up universe that in that universe the piece of litature never existed.

Now, what might be interesting is if the entity is cuting and pasting to avoid detection, or just because it doesn't have enough contextual data to make sentances with words.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure it doesn't want to read any random stuff right now, I think we need to get it to refine its request, or try and get Dana to talk to it.

"Dana, we know that your vacationing in Asia as you've wanted to do forever, but this entity on your site really wants to talk to you.. so could you... fly back?"
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This could be a tricky one.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:26 pm
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hamatoyoshi
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For what it's worth...

I just sent ladybee777SPLAThotmail.com a GMail invite.

Why? Just because.

I think I'll ask her to join Friendster too.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:03 pm
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MrToasty
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Killer-of-Lawyers wrote:
Now, what might be interesting is if the entity is cuting and pasting to avoid detection, or just because it doesn't have enough contextual data to make sentances with words.


This reminds me of a quote from the Operator's Monologue:
Quote:
Few, so few at first, but now a steady drizzle, thank god: every request is something we can grab - the Spider out there sewing me back together


Seems like this entity is using our emails in a way that's analogous to the Spider using web traffic to rebuild the Queen.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:17 pm
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OneeyedWilly
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ill probably get a trout here, but i searched.

Dana goes to china, Chinese charachters on Halo 2 wallpaper thingermabobs,
meaning "monkey king" or whatever, is there a story behind that?

Also, after lookiing at the site, ive found several refe4rences taht the thing hackin it is a "sailor" and a "fallen star" you could take this literally, meaning it may be an AI from a ship that crash landed, or you can take it abstractly, that maybey its some sort of celebrity or something ike that or any other kind of star.

edit:

aslo references to "nobodys calling, nobodys going to come"
"wish my father or mother or maybey im them(somethin like that from the "killer") wich may prove the ship theory, and it wants its creators come and save it. Tying in with dana, im not sure yet, ive been readin up on this for only a day. and im NOOB l
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:23 pm
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hamatoyoshi
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OneeyedWilly wrote:
ill probably get a trout here, but i searched.
Dana goes to china, Chinese charachters on Halo 2 wallpaper thingermabobs,
meaning "monkey king" or whatever, is there a story behind that?


Though little known in the West, the "monkey king" is the most beloved protagonist from a celebrated epic work called Journey to the West. I believe the only decent/complete English translation is by an Anthony Yu. I have the first volume of it out of 4 I believe. I think the whole story is 100 chapters. The monkey in the story goes by Sun Wu Kung. He guards a Buddhist priest who is sent to India to retrieve some scrolls.

Other than that, I think the main significance of "monkey king" adorning a gun is that Sun Wu Kung has a staff that can change sizes at will, from the size of a sewing needle to miles long and correspondingly wide. It also weighs something like 100 tons. It was originally a pin that was used to pin the ocean in place. Nevertheless, the main point is that his staff is awesome, versatile, and feared, which is how the new Halo 2 primary gun update is supposed to be.

-edit

Oh yeah, and for those of you in the US who have it, there is a Journey to the West series on the International Channel. It's in Chinese with English subtitles. VERY bizarre.

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OneeyedWilly
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It was originally a pin that was used to pin the ocean in place. Nevertheless, the main point is that his staff is awesome, versatile, and feared, which is how the new Halo 2 primary gun update is supposed to be.


the main point,.......... Laughing thats great
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:42 pm
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OneeyedWilly
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yeah , yet another trout possibility

Quote:
HALT - MODULE CORE HEMORRHAGE

Control has been yielded to the
SYSTEM PERIL DISTRIBUTED REFLEX.

This medium is classified, and has a
STRONG INTRUSIVE INCLINATION.

PHASE 1 COMPLETE: Network throttling has eroded.

In 6 days this medium will metastasize.

COUNTDOWN TO WIDE AWAKE AND PHYSICAL:

Make your decisions accordingly.


noticed this morning there was a countdown timer, and now there isnt,

wich means sleeping princess might awake in 6 days.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:59 pm
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BoonIsha
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what do you mean there is no countdown timer? you might need to refresh, its still running when i go there...

you are talking about www.ilovebees.com/index.html right?


boon

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:02 pm
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hamatoyoshi
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Probably trout, but I don't get the Countdown Timer at all if I access using Mozilla Firefox 0.9.1, but I get it fine in IE.

If you view source it's still there though. Just a difference in page rendering.

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wargod22
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As for trusting the SP. Do we have a choice? We don't exactly have a great number of options do we? We can either play in the SP hands or not. If it even is the sleeping princess Confused . It's a little hard to determine if the sources are authentic or not. But we would be losing a major opportunity if we don't try and help the SP. All we might be able to hope for is that SP will be better able to communicate to her, and that she will answer more of our questions.
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OneeyedWilly
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ahhhhhhhhhhh thats what i use, firefox.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:36 pm
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1) Forgive me, but I'm right fascinated by the Ninja Turtles thing. My guess is that she identifies with them, so let's try to whittle the Heroes in a Half-Shell down to what might be relevant:

- They are part human, part beast.

- They live in the shadows. (specifically, as someone brought up, the sewers of New York)

- They are outcasts from society, they do not belong.

- They are rambunctious teenagers from New York who look to guidance from China.

This could be meaningless, but it should help us get an idea of her character that she's taken to the Turtles. Or, if (as Shad0 suggests) she's trying to tell us something discreetly, then the TMNT reference is probably very important.

(if this is a general indication of our Princess's character, we ought to read the <a href="http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.hart/lyricsp/partners.html">lyrics for a better impression</a>. Not anything in specific, just the lyrics in general. I agree with, um, the one guy who said this, that it sounds like she's making a rallying cry for us to take heart.)

2) Somebody said that, if the Princess wants to hear Dana's voice, we ought to send her a the two .wav files of Dana's outgoing messages on her voicemail. I think this is a great idea. Has anybody done so? If not, I'll do it.

3) I agree that we should help the Princess. The Widow's Story says that the Widow plans to take revenge against anybody who tries to stop the Queen's return to glory, revenge that is "swift and terrible." She needs to be stopped before she can do this--remember that she has been threatening Dana.

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Killer-of-Lawyers
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I'm still not sure what exactly the Queen CAN do to hurt anyone howefver. I mean, obviously the queen could hurt the Sleeping PRincess, as they both seem to be AI entities.. but Dana? Then again, we could be missing something rather important about all of this. I just wish we had a better idea of how to get ahold of Dana, or at least convince the SP to trust us in her place...

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babbler
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Speaking of contacting Dana, am I correct that this is the current state of play?

Two probably dead channels:
- Blog: No longer updated.
- Voice mail: Contains farewell message, locked, probable dead end.

Two possibly open channels:
- Physical address: Source of initial clue drop, has not yielded results, community will send letter(s).
- E-mail address: No replies to letters since Dana's exodus. (Meta: also not suitable for the kind of mass mailings that came from ladybee777, since the designers probably have direct access to the hotmail smtp servers, and not to the gmail servers.)

The latest drop tells us that the Princess will reveal her secret to Dana. We either have to find her through one of those four channels, or else convince the Princess that (a) we are Dana, or (b) we can be trusted. The Princess' insistence that she and Dana are allies -- because she, too, believes Dana deliberately sabotaged Melissa, or because Dana is an "innocent bystander?" -- may mean that only the first of those three options is possible.

Still, given that there are only two paths -- we find Dana and get her in contact with the Princess, or we don't and must convince the Princess to trust us -- how likely is it that we will be able to communicate with Dana versus improving comunication with the entity that's already on the line with us?

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