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[BoonIsha]

yes it is brute forcing...sorta
and as i said, its cheap, im just frustrated with the clues...honestly i doubt i find anything.

is brute forcing against the rules?

boon

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i would add however, that its the same thing as trying to brute force the supposedly stegged jpeg...not that that makes it right or anything.

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[Dorkmaster]

There are no "Rules" per se, but there is a set of guidelines in place to let us explore for fun. My suggestion, is when you get your answers, let people know what you did and in the same post, place your results in a spoiler tag so one can avoid your results if they want to... or just don't tell us, and sit back and laugh when we figure the next step you already have... But the 10 ARG Commandments as posted in the unfiction guide is here, in this attachment.

[ScarpeGrosse]

Yeah, that definitely reminds me of "brute forcing". Which, yes, is naughty.

Generally, if the PMs wanted you to find hidden pages, they'd give you a reason/hint/something to clue you in. I don't think we've seen anything but the hidden "recipe 3" for us to bother looking for. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I definitely believe that using a script to troll the server for pages is a big "no-no".

For more on this issue:
This thread contains the definition of brute forcing as well as some community feedback on it
Also note at the bottom of Tutorial page, you'll find the 10 Commandments of ARG, #3 of which is "Thou shalt not brute force"

[aliendial]

Nevermind. Scrappy posted while I was writing. What she said. There is, however, no rule against manual hunts for pages based on clues provided. So if hidden/lost files named three are the issue, what has everyone tried? Three, 3, III, beebeebee?

[BoonIsha]

consider my prog stopped. should have realized it was a no-no.

does trying all the computer text manually count? i mean, thats using clues right?

boon

[sapagoo]

[aliendial]

[Dorkmaster]

Thanks Scarpe and Alien for helping out on that one... and I'll tell ya BoonIsha, the problem with that is even people like me, who LOVE the suspense, are dyin for details and to see behind the curtain, but that's how the game is played. You just don't look. So now that you've been chastised by a Site Admin and a Moderator and a Dorkmaster ¹ , I would say, if you're going to do it, just don't let us know the results at all... But in response to your last post that was written while I was trying to be witty ² , I would think running a search on the words given is not necessarily a problem, cuz that is going off of clues, and you using your ingenuity to come up with a better way of doing it, than actually trying each phrase one by one...

¹ Chastisement by Dorkmaster is not really a punishment, but more of a lame comedy routine... it's usually worse than punishment...
² Witty refers to said lame comedy. Not necessarily the definition/view of other [living] entities of comedy or wittiness.

[BoonIsha]

consider me chastened....

now, i read through all the stuff you guys posted (thanks for all that by the way!) and i was thinking, i can write a progy to decrypt stuff like binary, hex, morse, ROT, things like that, and i know they are alread out there, but would it be frowned upon to use a proggy to do it?

second, an interesting thought...
innocent bystander vs guilty spark
obviously innocent and guilty are opposites
definition of bystander - a nonparticipant spectator
definition of spark - A vital, animating, or activating factor

obviously a connection?

boon

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thanks for clearing everything up Scarpe
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[ScarpeGrosse]

[Sequel]

This thread has gone off-topic. But to avoid a new "looking at your site a little awry/innocent bystander thread", I'll post here.

I don't know how to insert a local image, so I'll do my best to describe what I have done.

When I looked at all of the normal images on the site, the one that looks the oddest is the one on the home page. There is something about the way it is out of focus and the colors are off. I downloaded a local copy and crossed my eyes for a while. That only produced a headache.

Then I figured awry could also mean rotated. I flipped the image 180 degrees. To me, there is a clear image of a green "person" in the lower right quarter of the image, as well as possibly another "person" much smaller in the top right quarter. Is that our innocent bystander?

I'd be interested to see if anyone else is seeing what I am.

[Dorkmaster]

you'll have to specify which image.. there's a lot of images... (and does this image change when you refresh?) Is it the top border, or the top left, or the bottom? Which image? (not trying to be mean, but we need direction here...)

[Sequel]

It is http://www.ilovebees.com/bee2_margaretphoto.jpg on the main ilovebees.com page. You may have to refresh until you get a unscrambled copy.

Once you invert the image 180 degrees, the green "person" will be on the lower right quarter of the image, but more towards the center than the edge (I hope that makes sense.) You'll notice there is a black round something with a glare on it. That makes the eye.

I also wonder if the significance of the text being green was a hint towards the person being green.

[hamatoyoshi]