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[RING][MISSIONS] Solve the puzzle of the wave forms
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AUZ505
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 		To keep things more ordered, I would suggest to discuss topics regarding the "Run Graph" in this thread: [RING][PUZZLE]Eli Hunt/Secret site

As long as we do not know the connection between the wave forms and the graph we should keep this thread as the main ressource for wave forms. Else they are forgotten. "The lost wave forms" Smile

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:09 am
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VictorSueiro
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 		This is my spec about the sacred wave forms. I will post it in spanish, and i will translate it in a while.

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Con la información que manejamos desde hace un tiempo, planteo la siguiente SPEC:


Las ondas sagradas representan distintos mecanismos de bifurcación / unión de ramas que el multiverso adopta ante un acto humano.


Por ejemplo. Tomando la onda sagrada nro 2, puedo dar el siguiente ejemplo:



*X1 Duerme
*X11 Duerme boca arriba | *X12 Duerme boca abajo (dos estados simultaneos, aca hubo ramificación)
*X1 Despierta (ambas ramas, caen a un mismo estado, se unen).
*X11 se despierta de buen humor | *X12 se despierta de mal humor.
*X1 va al trabajo (sucede lo mismo nuevamente).

(...)

Entonces, que quiere decir la SWF #2??? Que hay ramas que naturalmente se unen debido a que hay actos que por su naturaleza, no modifican los actos subsiguientes. Esta forma de onda explica como el multiverso "evita" que muchas de nuestras decisiones/situaciones generen mundos nuevos (lo dice en uno de los codex).


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La SWF #1, explica de que manera se pueden emparejar las acciones un individuo con su versión invertida en otra rama. P. ej:



X1 dobla a la izquierda | X2 dobla a la derecha (dos estados en simultaneo, por supuesto, cada uno en su mundo...).
X11 salta | X12 se agacha || X21 salta | X22 se agacha (cada uno de los X creo dos ramas)
X1 sigue caminando | X2 sigue caminando

Finalmente, ambos individuos terminaron en estados iguales, pero en distintas ramas. Esto quiere decir que esas dos versiones de X estan en mundos sincronizados, eventualmente, el multiverso "comprimira" a ambos X en una rama.

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La SWF #3, explica lo que sucede en mundos que no estan sincronizados... se preservan los estados opuestos.

X1 presiona el boton rojo | X2 no presiona el boton rojo


X11 no muere | X12 muere || X21 no muere | X22 muere (cada X se bifurca a dos estados opuestos y simultaneos)


X1 no muere | X2 muere (los estados simultaneos colapsan a un único estado, se preservan dos estados opuestos y simultaneos)




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La SWF# 4... es la mas complicada. Tengo un ejemplo, pero va a ser menos entendible (sin dibujito jeje) que los anteriores. Digamos lo siguiente: Un único estado (existencia) puede colapsar (decisiones) a dos estados nuevos. Y eso se sucede a lo largo del tiempo, de manera recursiva.

De esta manera, la wave form #4 explica como se generan nuevas ramas (mundos) a traves de las decisiones de un individuo en un mundo determinado (YES, un único estado que colapsa).


PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:30 am
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 		This is my translation (so, is a bad one Razz), i change some things, because i couldnt find a good translation for some lines, concepts.

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I'm writting the follow SPEC with the info we have:

Sacred wave forms represents different mechanism of branching / joining branches (worlds) that the multiverse creates when a human being makes a choice.

With the SWF #2, i can create the follow example:

*X1 Sleeps (X1 existence... X1 exists)
*X11 Sleeps watching up | *X12 Sleeps watching down (Both are simultaneous states, the original state branched)
*X1 Wakes up (Both branches, collapse to the same state).
*X11 wakes up in a good way | *X12 wakes up in a bad way.
*X1 goes to work (the same again).

(...)

So, what does the SWF #2 means??? It means that there are branches that naturally get joined because there are actions that dont modify the following actions. By this waveform, the multiverse avoid that much of our choices creates new worlds (as we can read in the codex).

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The SWF #1 explain how the actions of a human being in one world could match the actions of the same person in an inverted branch. F. ex:


X1 turns to left | X2 turns to rigth (two simultaneous states, each X in their own world...).
X11 jumps | X12 crouchs || X21 jumps | X22 crouchs (each Xs creates two new branches)
X1 keep walking | X2 keep walking

Finally, both x finished in equal states, but in different branches. This means that both X versiones (X1 and X2) are in syncro. So, eventually, the multiverse will compress both Xs in the same branch.

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The SWF #3 explain the opposite of SWF #1.

X1 press the red button | X2 dont press the red button


X11 dont die | X12 die || X21 dont die | X22 die (each X branches to two opossite and simoultaneous states)


X1 don't die | X2 die (there is no states match)


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SWF# 4... is the more complex SWF. I have an example, but it will be unusefull without a draw. Let me say the follow: One state (existence) could collapse (choices) to two new states. This happen over time , in a recursive way.

De esta manera, la wave form #4 explica como se generan nuevas ramas (mundos) a traves de las decisiones de un individuo en un mundo determinado (YES, un único estado que colapsa).


PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:11 pm
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momonga
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 		I did some researching into The New Atlantis, and well, I certainly didn't read it, but I did find a pretty good summary here! Razz The paragraphs of importance are found under 'Why Bensalem Remains Hidden.'

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According to the Governor's account, the early history of navigation was far more advanced than even the impressive recent accomplishments of the Europeans. In the ancient past, many great civilizations sailed to the farthest regions of the world and carried on trade with Bensalem and its neighbor Atlantis. This period was brought to an end by earthquakes and floods that "Divine Revenge" used to punish Atlantis for its proud enterprises. These calamities devastated the country, the people, and the great civilization that they had created. Human civilization was never fully able to recover following these catastrophes; the civilization of Atlantis left only the primitive culture of America and the New World. "So you see," the Governor explains, "by this main accident of time, we lost our traffic with the Americans.... As for the other parts of the world, it is most manifest that in the ages following (whether it were in respect of wars, or by a natural revolution of time) navigation did every where greatly decay; and specially far voyages."


There's some more interesting stuff following that, but, pretty striking isn't it? I think it sounds a bit like our situation too, having fallen out of synchronization and having lost most of our communication with the other worlds.

What I gather from ths summary is that Bensalem is this 'New Atlantis', having once been neighbors with Atlantis. Then the Gods punished Atlantis for using its navigational skills to conquer other nations. Meanwhile, Bensalem is left alone, believing that keeping to itself is the best policy. During this time, they also build a House of Solomon in which its members are the only ones allowed to leave the island to go out and bring back information about the world.

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As previously noted, the island does continue to monitor developments in other countries throughout the world and brings back any information that can be used by Bensalem. The most learned and incorruptible inhabitants of Bensalem, the members of Solomon's House, carry out these expeditions in secret, however.


Monitoring, huh? Like an... omphaputer perhaps?! Surprised

Anyway, coming back to our original question though, if these facts are relevant, what does The New Atlantis have to do with the wave forms?

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