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sapagoo
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momonga wrote:
Hmm, another idea. Could the content of the chapter have anything to do with the corresponding location it was found in? Like Chapter 12, which is about the Pan-Cosmology Classification System (PCCS)--it was found by a ship that was used to aid another kind of classification system. Are there similar connections between the other artifacts and their locations?

Chapter 6 from Brussels, talks about creating the labyrinth Wall. and was found an a brick wall.

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Chp 2 in Austin contains back story and was in a history center.

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This is all starting to sound like The Lost Room
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momonga wrote:
Hmm, I'd be happy to go check out Fort Mason in a bit. I'll bring along my camera in case I find anything. I'm with Elizabeth though--I can't imagine what would be there connected to the all of this that hmrpita might have missed. :O

EDIT: Okay, well I went and checked it out and like I suspected, there wasn't anything there that seemed obviously relevant to our search--nothing like Olympic torches or a painting of someone named Omphale, at least. However, I did look up the name of the ship whose stern is in the wall and found some interesting information which may or may not be important.

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In 1905 - 1911 Galilee served as the carrier for the Carnegie Oceanic Magnetic Survey party. The purpose of the survey was to correct the meager and inaccurate data of magnetic variations gathered up to 1905. At this time, modifications were made to the vessel. Every ounce of metal not absolutely necessary was replaced from the ship to reduce the influence on highly magnetic apparatus to a minimum. The success and real value of Galilee, as demonstrated during her career with Carnegie Institute, are the contributions made to navigation from the results of her surveys. Galilee collected data from 64,000 miles of voyage that is still in use today.


Sounds sorta like what we're doing, trying to map out the different worlds and gathering data, I guess.

Here's an image of the ship's voyages:
http://www.library.gl.ciw.edu/ocean/images/maps/galilee_123.jpg
and some links:
http://www.library.gl.ciw.edu/ocean/galilee/main.html
http://www.beniciahistoricalmuseum.org/project_galilee.htm


Good work, momonga! This has to be the connection.

(I am glad I didn't miss some gigantic flaming torch or something Wink)
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Liking where this brainstorming is going..
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I was poking around the Austin History Center's website and found this:

http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/library/ahc/train.htm

Yup, more railroad stuff. I'm not sure if there's an actual physical exhibit of train things there or that's a Web-only thing, but if the former it might be worth asking about.

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This is a related topic:

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25066

Diego went to the Buenos Aires Esperanto society last afternoon... maybe we'll get some news tomorrow.

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momonga wrote:
Hmm, another idea. Could the content of the chapter have anything to do with the corresponding location it was found in? Like Chapter 12, which is about the Pan-Cosmology Classification System (PCCS)--it was found by a ship that was used to aid another kind of classification system. Are there similar connections between the other artifacts and their locations?


Chapter 1 found in Cardiff talkes about the strengths and Hercules is all about strenth, isn't he?

Also, Chapter 5 found in Sydney talkes about the olympics and was found near the olympic torches

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Then, as Tokyo artifact's title is "Doors and Parallel Paths", should we think that doors of the postboxes represent its contents? Smile

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FYI, link to information of the Cardiff City Hall including the paintings that are in the City Hall:
http://www.cardiffcityhall.com/Cardiff%20City%20Hall%20Guide%202006.pdf

Unfortunately the one Markus found is not listed.

[META on] Wonder if this painting could be really found in the city hall [META off]

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momonga wrote:
Hmm, another idea. Could the content of the chapter have anything to do with the corresponding location it was found in? Like Chapter 12, which is about the Pan-Cosmology Classification System (PCCS)--it was found by a ship that was used to aid another kind of classification system. Are there similar connections between the other artifacts and their locations?

You might have noticed this, but magnetic survey directly links to the continental drift theory:

As you know, Wegener's continental drift theory was first ignored, but revived in 1950's by the evidence from magnetic surveys etc.. Rocks preserve the direction of Earth's magnetic field when cool. So we can guess movement of the Earth magnetic poles relative to the continents and so on. Then the North Pole's movement was found different between the estimations from Europe and from America. I'm not a geologist and my explanation might be inaccurate, so please see also this article.
Although I think Galilee's survey itself wasn't used for the theory's revival, because it's old, magnetic survey seems to me linked directly to the content of Ch.12.

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[quote="unagi"]
momonga wrote:

As you know, Wegener's continental drift theory was first ignored, but revived in 1950's by the evidence from magnetic surveys etc.. Rocks preserve the direction of Earth's magnetic field when cool. So we can guess movement of the Earth magnetic poles relative to the continents and so on. Then the North Pole's movement was found different between the estimations from Europe and from America. I'm not a geologist and my explanation might be inaccurate, so please see also this article.
Although I think Galilee's survey itself wasn't used for the theory's revival, because it's old, magnetic survey seems to me linked directly to the content of Ch.12.

Continental drift theory was what I thought of too when I read about magnetic survey ship.

Should we (or can we) think of Eli Hunt's finding that statue in Olympia back when he was 10 as a location with an artifact pick-up? His story on that subject doesn't make a lot of sense to me, by the way) But maybe there is another hint or clue to dredge up there.

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unagi wrote:
You might have noticed this, but magnetic survey directly links to the continental drift theory:

As you know, Wegener's continental drift theory was first ignored, but revived in 1950's by the evidence from magnetic surveys etc.. Rocks preserve the direction of Earth's magnetic field when cool. So we can guess movement of the Earth magnetic poles relative to the continents and so on. Then the North Pole's movement was found different between the estimations from Europe and from America. I'm not a geologist and my explanation might be inaccurate, so please see also this article.


Interesting! I checked out that wikipedia entry and then read the continental drift entry, where I found another reference to our good friend Francis Bacon.

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Abraham Ortelius (1596), Francis Bacon (1620), Benjamin Franklin, Antonio Snider-Pellegrini (1858), and others had noted earlier that the shapes of continents on either side of the Atlantic Ocean (most notably, Africa and South America) seem to fit together.


Anyway, I feel like there has to be more to these connections. Like Ariadne asked on her Twitter, 'what story could they tell?' How can we use all these clues to help us? :O

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Hm! Another thing I noticed is that the two locations that come with each omphalos are usually similar buildings.

Omphalos 3: A bar and a teahouse.
Omphalos 6: A bar and a cafe.
Omphalos 8: Both arts houses.
Omphalos 9: Both inns.

I'm not sure what the other locations are from just looking at their names.

Also, if we're right, there will be 27 locations. That doesn't break down evenly if it's two chapters to each omphalos. Could there actually be three chapters for each? And maybe we have to figure out the third location by knowing the distance and making educated guesses where it could be.

Facts we (probably) know about artifact locations:
1. Usually in a major city
2. Locations for one omphalos are somehow related
3. Railways nearby? That might be related to the fact that it's a major city though.

Anywayyyyy. Heavy speculation! This whole post is obviously irrelevant if a tenth omphalos shows up. Razz

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hey, that's actually a good thought... if we consider that one location gives two artifacts, what if the two artifacts either give a new location, or perhaps form a 3rd direction from their omphalos?

Could it be possible that maybe the each artifact location contains a direction, so that when directions from both artifacts are considered, where they join is the 3rd artifact?

I guess there's a number of possible theories... but it's a good idea I think. Though if we get a 10th omphalos then the 3 artifact/omphalos theory's done Razz
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