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[SPEC] Dharma Initiative and Cloverfield
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IncidentCloverfield
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Nighthawk wrote:
I haven't checked this whole thread, but do remember Beth's last name, McIntyre, was the last name of a character from TLE and the Hanso Foundation.


When Rob is walking around with the camera in the very beginning at beths apartment he passes some pics of Beth and her parents... the guy looked really familiar even the first time i saw the movie...

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IncidentCloverfield wrote:
Nighthawk wrote:
I haven't checked this whole thread, but do remember Beth's last name, McIntyre, was the last name of a character from TLE and the Hanso Foundation.


When Rob is walking around with the camera in the very beginning at beths apartment he passes some pics of Beth and her parents... the guy looked really familiar even the first time i saw the movie...



Oh, snap. Now I have something to DO when I get home...

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tMan930 wrote:
IncidentCloverfield wrote:
Nighthawk wrote:
I haven't checked this whole thread, but do remember Beth's last name, McIntyre, was the last name of a character from TLE and the Hanso Foundation.


When Rob is walking around with the camera in the very beginning at beths apartment he passes some pics of Beth and her parents... the guy looked really familiar even the first time i saw the movie...



Oh, snap. Now I have something to DO when I get home...


So do I...
EDIT: ...And so far, no one recognizable from Lost in that scene.
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 		We discussed this in this thread:

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=486986&search_id=1597390523&highlight=dharma&sort_dir=desc&return_chars=500#486986

But not trouting since it was a digression from the original subject (about the slusho myspace). So I'm going to repost my opinion here on this in the more apropo thread:

Animaniac wrote:
Patrick Star wrote:

A tie-in twixt the two would ruin one or the other storyline.
I have watched LOST since it's inception. If there is a tie-in, being a LOSTIE it would completely destroy the "reality" of Cloverfield.


Think of it this way. The weirdness of the world is apparent to the castaways on the Lost island because of the size of their world. Its a compact microcosm of the world they live in so everything is amplified.. To most of the rest of the world, they don't notice this weirdness and see the world much as we see ours... Until a giant monster goes tapdancing down Broadway.

As I stated in the thread on multiple monsters, only what is on the screen and IG (or in this case IW for In World) counts. Because that logo shows up on screen in the film, Dharma's existance in the Cloverfield world is canon. The Dharma Initiative apparently was involved in the recovery or review of the footage that is the movie, meaning they do share a world. Does that mean they had anything else to do with the event or creation of Clover?, No. Does that make the world of Cloverfield less realistic? No, no more than Clover does. Most people arent seeing whats happening on the island and live thier mundane lives unaware of the worlds weirdness or Dharma's plans.

This is how most modern-day gameworlds work for RPGs, btw. The average person is a Mundane until something opens thier eyes to the reality around them.

This isn't unusual.. many writers have all thier series/works share a common world, Abrams apparently, S. King, and David E. Kelley for example. (Boston legal, Law and Order, The Practice besides all being in Boston, also would cross storylines/characters)

Generally, as they relate to each other, Lost and Cloverfield seem to be IW to each other, but not exactly IG. Untill they dump a Cloverfield clue on a LOST site or vice-vesey, which is unlikely.


With the new appearance of the logo? They definitely are part of the governments research into this.. Since we also know it was DoD R&D deptartment this headed to and Dharma was goverment funded.. Maybe Dharma is (or part of) the "Black Ops/Shadow Gov't" version of the DoD R&D dept.?

And the logo on the file being handed from one soldier to another in the mall? General consensus was that it was likely marked with NASAs logo:

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=467651&highlight=folder+nasa#467651
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 		Can anyone who has the DVD already, or a copy of it, take a screenshot of that scene (the "NASA" folder scene). If not, til the 22nd.
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 		Sorry guys, I checked the McIntire theory whet it just emerged - no soap, the father in the pic in the movie is completely different from the Mcintire whose pic is on the Lostpedia.com:(

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 		well i dont know if we can quite canonize the logo being IG at least it seems to be 50/50 split on this forum i think for one this it is at least the same world

does anyone think the dod looking emblem i posted could be some part of dharma that we dont know about yet in lost or cloverfield because it would only up on the screen for a spilt second and there was a weird glitch right before it idk

but i will be analyze the hell out of it when i get the dvd
btw April 22 is my Bday w00t

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