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Weezel
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Chid12 wrote:
In the future,
the world comes together,
except that today,
the world comes together.


So the world (as the land itself) can either come together physically and people will die, or the world (as the people who inhabit it) can come together and prevent that disaster. Nice doubling of the 'coming together' concept.
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 		Doubt it has any direct connection with the task, but this is the ring map I've been maintaining in case it sparks any ideas.
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Elizabeth123 wrote:
And what's that huge blob of land between Australia and Africa? Has New Zealand grown? (Mr. J!!!)


I think that's India. In Pangaea India is apart from the other part of Asia, although I don't know well about Neo-pangaea.

EDIT: Very sorry, I had to say India and Antarctica. Please see this image.

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 		I will apologize if I misundestand your question.

Chid12 wrote:
*I'm not sure how to translate this. 'Diagramo' is graph paper, but this is a plural and an adjective. I'm gonna go with 'circles on a diagram/graph'. Maybe it means graphical?


'diagramaj' would be translated 'diagrammatic'.

diagram:
a figure, usually consisting of a line drawing, made to accompany and illustrate a geometrical theorem, mathematical demonstration, etc.

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Chid12 wrote:
One translation:

...The circles would have to appear as 'diagramaj'* circles...

*I'm not sure how to translate this. 'Diagramo' is graph paper, but this is a plural and an adjective. I'm gonna go with 'circles on a diagram/graph'. Maybe it means graphical?


Drawn circles, perhaps? If a diagram is the noun, a drawing, perhaps the adjective is a form of, as unagi said, 'diagrammatic', or 'drawn'?


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Ok, so the brief overview...

dreamerblue said she'd love to come to the drop, so we planned to meet up. Last minute, we decided to meet at the bus terminal, rather than the Inn. We found it porbably would have gone better had we met at the Inn Razz

Traffic was ridiculous, drivers were ridiculous, directions were strange... we ended up taking a turn too early (dundas intersects bloor twice, and we took the first, thinking it was the 2nd), so in correcting, we did a little circle and turned back on to the road towards the Inn.

Only we noticed, too late, that the CN tower was close by. And the buildings were really, really tall for the outskirts of the city. Then we realized we were traveling east, not west, and had backtracked a good 1/2 hour back into downtown. Shocked

So we turned around, and eventually got to the Inn, sometime between 1:30 and 2pm.

Walked in, looked around for a bit, very museum/touristy... asked at the counter about a library, and they were quite friendly and agreeable, as if hey expected us Razz. The library had walls of book cases, a table covered in stuff, a couple computers... looked like an office (seems like they may have prepared it for free public access like this).

The name of the book slipped our mind, and we left our notes in the car. So we attempted to remember it, but couldn't find anything in the card catalogue. dreamerblue ran out to the car to check the name, then we re-checked the cards. Still no hit. But other books with similar names ('Pioneer' phrases and whatnot) were in the same general area.

Found the shelf and started scanning through. Nothing stood out. Nothing matched the name. Then dreamerblue noticed a book with the name "Pioneer History Stories of the Mississippi Valley". Sure enough, in the front cover was the folded page.

Did the typical excited quick scan, I txt'd the code, and we briefly scanned the room for anything else that might stand out as another clue. Though knowing that we don't have to be at the artifact location to find the clue (as per a comment from, diego was it?), we weren't too concerned about finding anything else.

I video'd the room, quickly, just in case.

Also wrote a note to put back in the book (and I really want to know if that book is originally from th museum library, or if it was placed there along with the artifact). I included a little 'warning' to THEO, you know, just in case he 'beat' him to the artifact Smile.

That was about it and we headed out again.

We were hoping for more than one page so we could each take one home... but... since tomorrow is Melody's birthday, and she really wanted to be at the pickup, but was planning her big party bash for the evening the entire day, I asked if I could take it back home to give as her birthday gift Razz
Dreamerblue graciously agreed, and Melody is now the proud possessor of Chapter 15. Smile Happy birthday!


It was a long day. I'm tired.
I'm thinking pics and video up tomorrow... tonight I'm bushed.
(ok not as brief as I'd hoped Smile)
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thebruce wrote:
Ok, so the brief overview...


Woo! Thanks for going out there, and for the report! It's the details that really make it. Smile

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Did the typical excited quick scan, I txt'd the code, and we briefly scanned the room for anything else that might stand out as another clue. Though knowing that we don't have to be at the artifact location to find the clue (as per a comment from, diego was it?), we weren't too concerned about finding anything else.


Markus, and then Ariadne said things seem "codexy" about either the locations/purposes of locations. There are a few books that have been planted though, so I'm wondering if it's the subjects that are significant, or what!
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thebruce wrote:

Traffic was ridiculous, drivers were ridiculous, directions were strange... we ended up taking a turn too early (dundas intersects bloor twice, and we took the first, thinking it was the 2nd), so in correcting, we did a little circle and turned back on to the road towards the Inn.

Only we noticed, too late, that the CN tower was close by. And the buildings were really, really tall for the outskirts of the city. Then we realized we were traveling east, not west, and had backtracked a good 1/2 hour back into downtown. Shocked


Yes, I was reminded how much I hate our downtown, heh Smile...

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(and I really want to know if that book is originally from th museum library, or if it was placed there along with the artifact).


Oh, and thebruce and I did look again at the card catalogue once we had the corrected title from the book...and it wasn't in the catalogue. The book also didn't have a call number sticker on its spine, whereas pretty much everything else in the library did. I looked over the stories in the book briefly but didn't see any connection to our quest (I even paused when I found a diagram, but it was just showing how some guy planned out a log cabin). Thebruce photographed the title page and we got the copyright date also (I think it was 1894, but we can double-check when the photos go up) just in case.

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 		Thank you the Toronto pickup party, and I'm looking forward to your photos and video! I think the second story might be related to circles, symbols or flags.

Diagrammatic circles might mean a certain type of drawings, such as a population map, in which we'd better draw circles separately. (First I thought of Venn diagrams, but they correspond to undesirable worlds.)

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 		"Pioneer History Stories of the Mississippi Valley". There have been speculations about the "Run Graph" changing in 1812 and that there was a earthquake, which made the Mississippi "run backwards". I guess the "new Madrid earthquake" could be found in the book.

lhall wrote:

Markus, and then Ariadne said things seem "codexy" about either the locations/purposes of locations. There are a few books that have been planted though, so I'm wondering if it's the subjects that are significant, or what!


In Markus' case it was a painting that was "codexy" - not the location/purpose.
Ariaden only confirmed the "Galilee project - San Francisco".

The first one cannot found without physical visit and the second one would be hard to find. There was a stern of the ship on the wall. Do not know if this could be found via internet.

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 		See this is why I'm starting to get slowly suspicious that this may be a poorly-conceptualized 'puzzle' on the part of the PMs. We shouldn't have to get things "confirmed" by Ariadne in order to know that they are part of the 'second story.' We should just instantly *know* when we find the right connection. I read that stuff about the Galilee and never had that 'aha!' reaction.

Now this may turn out to be a different kind of puzzle -- one where we have to create our own stories about the possible connections, no right or wrong answers. People can find justification for almost any seemingly-significant connection between two random events/things/people. This sounds like a very Mythopoetic sort of task, if you ask me. Maybe Ariadne will make it one of the Mytho missions. But either we don't have enough information from all of the artifact locations yet in order to know what we're looking for, or something is screwy.

AUZ505 wrote:
"Pioneer History Stories of the Mississippi Valley". There have been speculations about the "Run Graph" changing in 1812 and that there was a earthquake, which made the Mississippi "run backwards". I guess the "new Madrid earthquake" could be found in the book.

lhall wrote:

Markus, and then Ariadne said things seem "codexy" about either the locations/purposes of locations. There are a few books that have been planted though, so I'm wondering if it's the subjects that are significant, or what!


In Markus' case it was a painting that was "codexy" - not the location/purpose.
Ariaden only confirmed the "Galilee project - San Francisco".

The first one cannot found without physical visit and the second one would be hard to find. There was a stern of the ship on the wall. Do not know if this could be found via internet.


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Elizabeth123 wrote:
And what's that huge blob of land between Australia and Africa? Has New Zealand grown? (Mr. J!!!)


This has somewhat already been covered, but by the looks to me New Zealand gets the privilege of being a little squiggly tail underneath Australia... Rolling Eyes

Well done to thebruce and dreamerblue for battling traffic and bringing home the prize! Very Happy

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danteIL wrote:
See this is why I'm starting to get slowly suspicious that this may be a poorly-conceptualized 'puzzle' on the part of the PMs.

I quoted your post over in the Second Stories thread. Hope that's okay.
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25135

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 		What a great birthday gift!
Thank you for sharing the story, thebruce, I really enjoyed reading it. I look forward to viewing the photos and video. Very Happy

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thebruce wrote:
Found the shelf and started scanning through. Nothing stood out. Nothing matched the name. Then dreamerblue noticed a book with the name "Pioneer History Stories of the Mississippi Valley". Sure enough, in the front cover was the folded page.


I found an online version of a book of the same title.
http://www.archive.org/details/pioneerhistoryst00mcmu
Is this what you found?

This seems to be a sort of textbook for children of the fourth and fifth grades. In the NYC thread, I wrote "German Composition" might be a textbook. I know only the titles in both cases (the latter might not be a textbook), but these two places are found from the same omphalos at Syracuse, I found it interesting. And I'd like to add, the content of Ch.15 from Toronto is sort of education of history (of the Olympic symbol).

By the way, after seeing Ch.15 and Ch.18, I felt the theme of the artifacts changed from the labyrinths to the Olympic games.

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unagi wrote:
thebruce wrote:
Found the shelf and started scanning through. Nothing stood out. Nothing matched the name. Then dreamerblue noticed a book with the name "Pioneer History Stories of the Mississippi Valley". Sure enough, in the front cover was the folded page.


I found an online version of a book of the same title.
http://www.archive.org/details/pioneerhistoryst00mcmu
Is this what you found?

This seems to be a sort of textbook for children of the fourth and fifth grades. In the NYC thread, I wrote "German Composition" might be a textbook. I know only the titles in both cases (the latter might not be a textbook), but these two places are found from the same omphalos at Syracuse, I found it interesting. And I'd like to add, the content of Ch.15 from Toronto is sort of education of history (of the Olympic symbol).

By the way, after seeing Ch.15 and Ch.18, I felt the theme of the artifacts changed from the labyrinths to the Olympic games.


That is indeed the book we found, and the title page did mention it being a textbook for the fourth and fifth grades.

By the way, I want to express my joy at having been able to be involved in one of the offline parts of the game (even if I did prove I have no sense of direction and therefore do not have a certain ancient strength, lol)...this is my first ARG, and I think it's really neat how much worldwide coordination has been going on in this game. It's awesome to be part of it Smile.

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