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[Missons] Charion - Get Eli Hunt to email you back
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jasper
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 		his reply to me
I've got this one from him:
date Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:26 PM
subject Re: The Secret Artifact
mailed-by googlemail.com
hide details 11:26 PM (6 hours ago)

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Dear Jasper,

I appreciate your skepticism. Even if it comes in the form of
suspicion against yours truly. After all, it is the duty of an
investigator of forgotten mysteries to ask difficult questions, and to
brandish skepticism as if it were a weapon. You advance your
skepticism well, and bravely. However, in this case, I can counter it
with both logic and the truth.

I am certain if you think carefully about this conundrum, you will be
able to develop a theory of why an ancient Greek artist would
replicate a Minoan votive. Where did the Minotaur come from, if not
Knossos? Would the Ancient Greeks, labyrinth runners that they are,
not pay secret tribute to the King of Minos, from whose palace the
first labyrinth pattern was derived?

You raise the possibility that the keepers of the musuem at ancient
Olympia may have known something of the labyrinth runners when they
authenticated the work of Pheidias that I found. I was very young, and
they did not discuss their authentication process with me. However, in
hindsight, it is clear that the leap they made would require some
knowledge of the secret agonothetai.

Perhaps there are other researchers, other historians, other
organizations who have been keeping the secret of the lost ring for
decades... or centuries... or longer. Maybe if we find them, we will
be better able to complete our mission to find the lost ring.

However, at the moment, I am concentrating on a different problem. I
am not looking for our allies. I am looking for our antagonists.

I fear that there are counter-agonothetai working as actively as we
are to prevent synchronization of the multiverse. But why? And how?
Who are they, and where do they come from? How long have they been
working on their counter-
mission?

As strange as this may sound, I believe that to defeat them, we may
need to work with them. Know thy enemy. I am hoping to learn the
counter-agonothetai are, and how they might have been able to persuade
agonothetai to join forces with them on their counter-mission...

If you wish to help, your skepticism could be a strength.

If you were skeptical of the allies' missions to synchronize the
multiverse, how would you attack it? What hard questions would you
ask? What assumptions could be faulted in our desire to find the lost
ring and restore the multiverse olympiad?

Sincerely yours,

Eli Hunt



And there is a sort of creepy one posted over here http://forums.findthelostring.com/message/4233#4233

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VictorSueiro
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 		I got this Eli's reply


Quote:
Dear Javier,

Yes, I know something about Theo.

He is playing a dangerous game against our six allies.

I have struggled for years to understand his motivations.

Does he really believe it is in our world's best interests to stop our six allies? If so, why?

To help your friend Diego and the others with their mission, I must first understand Theo's.

If you wish to help me, we may need to join forces with Theo. We must get closer in order to learn how to stop him and HIS allies.

Sincerely yours,

Eli Hunt


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Elizabeth123
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 		From the forums, Eli's response to amaretto01 (Monique):

Quote:
I am startled by your email. It strikes me that there is some optimisim in your interpretation of what it would mean to return to a state of Pangaea. I have had a very discouraging week, and so your optimsim breathes some life into my mission.

While I still believe that a new Pangaea would wreak global devastation, purely as a inevitable consequence of geographic upheaval, I can imagine that geoglobal politics would be transformed as well. Perhaps for the better, at least for those who survived.

Thank you for raising an interesting possibility. In fact, now as I ponder it, I wonder if perhaps you have shown me a truth I have been looking for. A motivation I had missed. Well. I am most grateful to you.


So...maybe this is Theo's reasoning...

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Junesun
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 		Hmm, what human could hope to gain from a rapid continental shift? Most life would run danger of being destroyed... Is there any area that would stay in its current location? Any way anybody could profit?

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lhall
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 		History and literature are full of people who thought it was acceptable to sacrifice human life for the greater good, even if it meant they couldn't live in the perfect world they'd helped create.

Ultimately, it doesn't end well for anyone.
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Tenchizard
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 		I don't really like the idea of counter-agonothetai. Maybe some people are already working to hinder our progress... Imagine a dikaiosune drawing incorrect labyrinths, and thumos cheating in the runs... If these counter-agonothetai end up doing a synchro labyrinth, consequences could be quite bad...

Is it time to put on the tinfoil hat?
I'll be putting mine, just in case Foily!

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Weezel
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 		New blog entry from Ariadne:
http://www.findthelostring.com/ariadne/detail.do?postId=1412
discussing team Charion and their success... haiku indeed!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:08 pm
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jasper
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 		I don't trust Eli that much. The suggestion from him that working with our enemies might be the way to go- that really doesn't sit well with me. It's like he's writing his cover story in advance, so if/when we seen him working on behalf of Theo, we won't take action to stop him.

I think he sounds way too sympathetic to the idea that neo-pangaea might be a good thing. Ick!

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mr.judkins
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 		Putting it all together...
Eli to jasper wrote:
I fear that there are counter-agonothetai working as actively as we are to prevent synchronization of the multiverse. But why? And how? Who are they, and where do they come from? How long have they been working on their counter-mission?

As strange as this may sound, I believe that to defeat them, we may need to work with them. Know thy enemy. I am hoping to learn the counter-agonothetai are, and how they might have been able to persuade agonothetai to join forces with them on their counter-mission...


Eli to VictorSueiro wrote:
To help your friend Diego and the others with their mission, I must first understand Theo's.

If you wish to help me, we may need to join forces with Theo. We must get closer in order to learn how to stop him and HIS allies.


from Ariadne's Blog wrote:
The Hong Kong artifact was DESTROYED by the person who recovered it.

Are they working with Theo??...

Apparently someone captured a very blurry image of part of the recovery code before the artifact was destroyed. Maybe there was a team of people making the recovery, and one of them went rogue to the surprise of the others.


[SPEC] I have a feeling some of us may soon be approached by Theo and his allies.
If so, those people will need to decide whether to become double agents, or double-double agents. [/SPEC]

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Junesun
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 		I think he has a point though in that we need to find out more about Theo and his motivations. Right now it's a big blank. We don't know who he is, where he is, what he is doing, WHY he is doing it, where and when he might interfere... we're completely unprepared to fight him.

And frankly I'm dead curious to know what could possibly be a reason to prevent us from saving the world. Madmen that are able to act intelligently typically have some kind of reasoning, even if it's convoluted. Right now I can't imagine any reasoning, no matter how twisted, that would lead to the conclusion that rapid continental shift is a good thing.

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jasper
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 		I don't know if I should write back to Eli. We want him to keep talking to us, and I'm likely to make him mad eventually.

I think his taking off abruptly to South America is a deliberate act of de-synchronization. All the other Eli Hunts in the mutliverse would have been following their routine and acting normal in Cardiff. Maybe he did it to try to flag down the attention of Theo and his group in the hopes of getting in with them to gain information. Or maybe he already actually sympathizes with Theo and is down there picking out a tall mountain not prone to landslide with a good set of foot and hand-holds to grab onto when the natural synchronization comes.

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AUZ505
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 		I personally would trust Eli. Up to now he helped us a lot. And we know so little about Theo and his motivation. If the only possibility to get more information is to "work with him", I guess some of the more couraged "Thumos" should try it.

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snurge
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 		Hey guys.
It seems to me that it is not only important to analyse the information in Eli's replys but to also find out what it is that is invoking a reply from him.
Have all the emails he's responded to got something in common?

I've not seen all the messages that have gone to him but quite a lot of the replys mention the counter Agonothetai or a new Pangaea.

Is it possible that his new interest in working with these counter-agonothetai means he's only responding to people who he thinks could be his 'new-allies' in joining this counter mission?
Maybe his visions about his 'past' tell us something about Eli that we may not want to hear!!

"The visions felt more like memories. They were memories of a different version of my own life, a life in which my actions had consequences I could not bear." and
"A past you desperately wish didn't belong to you, a past you wish you could erase even as you have no idea how you created it..."


(I'm pretty new and have mostly been watching the game from a distance so far so please forgive me if ive posted in the wrong place or asked something stupid) Very Happy

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Elizabeth123
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snurge wrote:
Is it possible that his new interest in working with these counter-agonothetai means he's only responding to people who he thinks could be his 'new-allies' in joining this counter mission?
Maybe his visions about his 'past' tell us something about Eli that we may not want to hear!!

"The visions felt more like memories. They were memories of a different version of my own life, a life in which my actions had consequences I could not bear." and
"A past you desperately wish didn't belong to you, a past you wish you could erase even as you have no idea how you created it..."


This is actually an interesting thought. It sounds like at least in another world, he joined with Theo...but also suggests that in this world he really is on our side, since he can't bear the thought of that past...So I think this confirms that he's not actually Theo, but that in another world he did work with him.

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snurge
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 		It is also possible that he gave these lectures, gave us/Ariadne help as he thought we could assist him in (re)joining the counter-Agonothetai but now he thinks we are getting too strong and he fears us.
(although i'm swaying towards thinking that his connections with Theo are in the 'past' and he now wants to make amends)

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