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danteIL
Unfictologist
Joined: 08 May 2006 Posts: 1990
VictorSueiro wrote:
unagi wrote:
Is "NewWorld" in the following thread a member of the double-spying team?
http://forums.findthelostring.com/thread/1526
EDIT: I found its copies in others' forums: 3 in ariadne's, 1 in larissa's and 1 in diego's.
If your winky faces mean that you are "newworld" it would be nice to know what message you are trying to send Theo.
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:51 pm
DavFlamerock
Entrenched
Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 937 Location: H2Oville, ME, USA
VictorSueiro wrote:
thebruce wrote:
ariock wrote:
I've been assured that there are no rules. There is the very real possibility that someone will use this information in a way that you would not wish them to. It is unlikely that the information posted here would be used by in-game characters, however nothing is stopping another player from relaying it to an IG character and thus bringing it IG.
Take that into consideration.
*Resistance flashback*
What?
From the Sarah Connor Chronicles ARG: long story short someone betrayed everyone else to the bad guys.
And I was just thinking that our code should involve poems and morse code
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:55 pm
bryanflurry
Unfettered
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 477 Location: Mississauga, Canada
A similar situation(double agents-ing)but in another game. A player gave a list(uF usernames) to the "bad guys". In which most of the uF usernames were never used to contact the characters (OOG info).
So in relaying messages, proceed with caution
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:58 pm
thebruce
Dances With Wikis
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 6899 Location: Kitchener, Ontario
VictorSueiro wrote:
thebruce wrote:
ariock wrote:
There is the very real possibility that someone will use this information in a way that you would not wish them to....nothing is stopping another player from relaying it to an IG character and thus bringing it IG.
*Resistance flashback*
What?
different arg. terminator: sarah connor chronicles. someone supplied the names of 'enemy' players to a character - information only revealed at uf.
stuff blew up.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:58 pm
unagi
Unfettered
Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 464 Location: Japan
danteIL wrote:
VictorSueiro wrote:
unagi wrote:
Is "NewWorld" in the following thread a member of the double-spying team?
http://forums.findthelostring.com/thread/1526
EDIT: I found its copies in others' forums: 3 in ariadne's, 1 in larissa's and 1 in diego's.
If your winky faces mean that you are "newworld" it would be nice to know what message you are trying to send Theo.
As it's not me, I can't read the message. The system is different from Bacon's.
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:01 pm
VictorSueiro
Decorated
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 229
danteIL wrote:
VictorSueiro wrote:
unagi wrote:
Is "NewWorld" in the following thread a member of the double-spying team?
http://forums.findthelostring.com/thread/1526
EDIT: I found its copies in others' forums: 3 in ariadne's, 1 in larissa's and 1 in diego's.
If your winky faces mean that you are "newworld" it would be nice to know what message you are trying to send Theo.
I'm NewWorld.
You are right. I didnt share all the info involved in my action. I just was kidding with the double agent idea!
This is the alphabet i used:
Quote:
A *****
B ****-
C ***-*
D **-**
E *-***
F -****
G -----
H ----*
I ---*-
J --*--
K -*---
L *----
M ***--
N **--*
O --***
P ---**
Q --**-
R **---
S *-*-*
T *-*--
U *-**-
V *--*-
W -*-*-
X -*-**
Y -*--*
Z -**-*
It should be very easy to decode... the first part of the coded message contain the text in plain text. The next part, is an email address, that use all the previous character conversion.
Quote:
I ---*- F -****
A ***** A *****
M ***-- C ***-*
W -*-*- I ---*-
I ---*- N **--*
T *-*-- G -----
H ----* T *-*--
Y -*--* H ----*
O --*** E *-***
U *-**- C ***-*
I ---*- H ----*
D **-** A *****
O --*** N **--*
N **--* G -----
T *-*-- E *-***
L *---- G -----
I ---*- M ***--
K -*--- A *****
E *-*** I ---*-
T *-*-- L *----
H ----*
I ---*-
S *-*-*
W -*-*-
O --***
R **---
L *----
D **-**
F -****
I ---*-
G -----
H ----*
T *-*--
F -****
A *****
C ***-*
E *-***
I ---*-
T *-*--
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:04 pm
bryanflurry
Unfettered
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 477 Location: Mississauga, Canada
how did you make the last logged-in date 1969?
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:09 pm
VictorSueiro
Decorated
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 229
bryanflurry wrote:
how did you make the last logged-in date 1969?
I dont understand this question...
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:24 pm
bryanflurry
Unfettered
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 477 Location: Mississauga, Canada
er..I forgot to say, the one in NewWorld's profile
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:30 pm
VictorSueiro
Decorated
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 229
Quote:
NewWorld's ProfileName:
Member Since: Apr 16, 2008
Last Logged In: Apr 16, 2008 12:24 PM
Status Level:
Maybe a bug?
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:36 pm
unagi
Unfettered
Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 464 Location: Japan
Quote:
Name:
Member Since: Apr 16, 2008
Last Logged In: Dec 31, 1969 7:00 PM
Status Level:
Possibly.
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:51 pm
Oriza
Entrenched
Joined: 21 Dec 2007 Posts: 1078 Location: Michigan and Florida
When we decide on a cipher to use, I'll volunteer to pose as a double agent on the forum, if that's what we're sure Thumos is going to do.
Also, would hiding the encoded message as base64 be too obvious?
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:32 pm
Weezel
Unfettered
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 420 Location: National Park, NJ
Personally, I really like the Bacon suggestion assuming that there is a easier way to implement it. Since we may not have the luxury of the underlying HTML or the multiple font choices (especially if posting in a forum) we might need a way to do it otherwise.
Here's a good reference on two ways (one using caps versus lowercase and one using set range of letters).
The obvious problem with the caps method is that it's fairly obvious. Still takes work though, and might be enough to show desire to communicate.
Once the first exchange happens, an alternate cipher could be used with the key exchanged in another way.
http://www.cs.ucf.edu/~gworley/files/baconian_cipher.txt
This links doesn't have all the supplemental pages up anymore, but shows a variety of encoding techniques that could be applied to a Bacon AB cipher..
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/gchq-challenge.html
Although, another solution to avoid the font issue, would be to actually write a normal post, but have an off-site link to an image, pdf or word doc that could utilize the typeface staggering method. Gets you best of both worlds. Would be fairly easy to throw an image up on Flickr. Personally I would prefer a version with text that could be editable (even as a PDF which could be imported), that way you get 'see' the fonts differences in the underlying code if you knew what you were looking for as opposed to just doing it visually.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:48 pm
Tenchizard
Decorated
Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 254
Given my last paranoid comments on twitter and the forums, I'm not well suited to turn into a double agent.
BUT, I'll gladly accuss anyone of anything, so as to make you look more evil:P
Maybe if Theo/Eli sees discussion in our ranks, they'll more gladly accept the double agent in their ranks...
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:22 pm
ariock
Has a Posse
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 762 Location: SF East Bay
VictorSueiro wrote:
Everything is under control
My comments weren't actually directed at you. At least they weren't until you revealed that you are trying to send a message to T. The issue is that In-Game and Out-of-Game only have bearing as long as the PMs and we, the players allow them to have bearing.
Assuming we get an email address for Theo, in a bid to curry favor with him, I could let him know that newworld is really victor and that you are working against him. If suddenly, Theo no longer trusts you and stops corresponding with you due to my information, then maybe you were wrong to trust me or the other players to give us that information.
I probably won't do that. But someone most likely will, if history is any indication. As I said, be aware of what you post here for people who are also playing the game and also want character interaction.
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When the Apocalypse comes, it'll be in base64.
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:13 pm
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