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[PUZZLE SOLVED] Richard Meyer's password
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dishboy
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Re: Cluebat, anyone?

GreyRoses wrote:
Your wish is their command, Varin. This is an excerpt from the email sent to Konamouse from the current webmaster at TT (and I really hope I'm not out of line reposting this snippet). The entire email can be seen at Interaction.
Quote:
All the files that are passed around about the new shows are actually encrypted and you need a password to open them up. I haven't quite figured it out yet but they have this system set up where the password is actually in the e-mail or cover letter you receive with the files. Is that crazy or what?

So it's there, we just have to find it.


Here's an idea... the memo says: "You will find it in the usual manner". Maybe that means you will find it in "the usual manner" - as in, the password is hidden in the phrase "the usual manner"? Maybe an anagram of some sort?
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Slyfox
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Two word anagrams of "The usual manner"

ALUMNAE HUNTERS
ALUMNAE SHUNTER
ANNULATE MUSHER
LANTHANUM REUSE
THERMAE ANNULUS
HEARTEN ALUMNUS
EARTHEN ALUMNUS
TEHERAN ALUMNUS
LEASURE MANHUNT
NUMERATE UNLASH
LUTHERAN UNSEAM
HAULERS UNMEANT
HUMANE RENAULTS
HUMANE LAURENTS
HUMANE NEUTRALS
URETHAN MANUELS
HAUNTER MANUELS
UNEARTH MANUELS
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sequoya
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You can get the word 'surname' out of it too, which i guess could relate to a password?

HUNT ALE SURNAME

and many other variations. Nothing that particularly jumps out at me and screams 'password' though.

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konamouse
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Let's relook at the memo.

Quote:
Date: 3/14/2003
Subject: Request After the Meeting
From: Greg Boyle, IS Department
To: Richard Meyer, Administrative Assistant

Richard:

Enclosed are several diskettes that contain the materials that you
requested just after our staff meeting earlier today.

Please be advised that, due to the extremely sensitive nature of
these files, JS has given me the thumbs up to assign an access password. You will find it in the usual manner.

Finally. please remember that the source, contents, and password
are to be considered private and confidential - return everything
to me for destruction when you are finished.

Thank you. and regards.

Greg

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Slyfox
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I've run stegbreak over the jpg just in case. I didn't expect anything to show up since it wouldn't make sense in the context of the message on the memo which at one point must have been a physical piece of paper. No harm in looking though just to be sure.
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monkeypants
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Trying to catch up...

Hey everyone! I know I've dropped off the planet for a bit, but I figure I'm not too behind on this one yet...

I looked at the memo and what really struck me was the punctuation on the valediction...

Quote:
Thank you. and regards.


coud login be "Thank you" and password "regards" I haven't checked because I'm not all the way caught up and don't know where to try putting this in...

-m

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sequoya
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Yeah, the punctuation is odd there, although it is hard to tell from the memo picture whether it's a full stop or just a comma. Nice spec.. we just need to find somewhere to try out our ideas!! Argh.

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spies
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do you think we need to "try out" the ideas? or do you think the solution will be self confiriming, much like the "ancient terror" solution.

i mean, we KNOW pretty certainly that ancient terror is the solve for the poem, but we dont know what to do with it.

i think solving for htis password will be similarly self confirming, and wont require guessing or leave open the possibility of coincidence.

meaning, once we solve it, we will KNOW we solved it.

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blag wrote:
someone was speccing that some of the text might be in italics but it's very hard to see because of the crumples. "You will find" in particular looks italicised.

Here's a version without the crumples but i'm not sure it helps - the words seem to lean in all sorts of directions.


Why can't I find the original version of the memo when I search? Bang Head
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enaxor
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Varin wrote:
blag wrote:
someone was speccing that some of the text might be in italics but it's very hard to see because of the crumples. "You will find" in particular looks italicised.

Here's a version without the crumples but i'm not sure it helps - the words seem to lean in all sorts of directions.


Why can't I find the original version of the memo when I search? Bang Head


The original download is here
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=47551#47551
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herichon
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random spec

Spec on this password:

Many companies (like my own) do have a standard system for generating passwords, based on a user's name or other pertinent details. Some are more cryptic than others. But in this instance I think we can assume that the password process is relatively straightforward, given that not only can the memo recipient (Richard Meyer, an administrative assistant) figure it out easily, but we as complete strangers to the company are expected to deduce the method.

So. Given that, what info in the memo might be pertinent to use as a password?

It's possible that the password is hidden in some cryptic anagram or ROT or other strange cypher in the body of the memo. But in the real world (and let's for a minute pretend that this is a real memo), people don't generally have the time and patience for that. They'd want something simple and straightforward, based on info that's easy to identify and remember. In this case, the easiest info to identify is the info right at the top - the date, the sender's name, the recipient's name, and the Subject line.

What if the password is as simple as the intended user's initials (RM) and some combination of the date? (0314, 314, 031403, etc)? That would make sense, at least as a temporary password that a user has to be able to deduce himself.

Or what if at TT the convention is that we use the initial letters of the Subject: field in a memo? That would give us RATM, or RAM if we disregard the lower case letter. (And incidentally - why is "After" capitalized? It's a preposition, not a word you would traditionally capitalize in a title. That strikes me as odd.) Taking the initial caps gives us RAM, which oddly enough echoes the user's initials. Maybe Richard's middle name starts with A? That would make RAM doubly interesting...

Anyway, I could be way off, but to me, a password like RAM0314 or one of the (many) variations on this theme would seem to fit in with the context of this situation and the kind of thing that might be used in reality. Anyone have any thoughts?

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MrvnMouse
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My thoughts are Greg has horrible grammar, and the only really odd thing that stands out is the dash between confidential and return. That dash makes no sense to be there at all. Perhaps it's a pointer.

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Himajin
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That would be an "em dash," and it doesn't really seem out of place to me. It's just used to tack on extra information to the same sentence without starting a new sentence.

-=Himajin=-

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enaxor
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Herichon using the date and/or subject line headers as a way to hide the password makes sense, these are probably included in all memos. RAM seems like a good possiblity or maybe using the date, i.e. 3rd paragraph 14th word or 2nd line, third word as in 2003.
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karmajay
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Trying to catch up on all this!

If this memo holds a password for what?

The FTP? I can't find that in these posts, and just wondering.

Also, if the weird looking punctuation is not the key, then I agree it has to be something easy. Network people tend to make passwords easy for people, so they dont forget. The initials and a number for example are a good guess.

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