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[Astald]

No offense to anyone, but I think our time would be best spent solving the puzzles we already have. Extrasonic has a great page up on the wiki:
http://bees.netninja.com/wiki/index.php?title=Mysteries
We could use some help trying to elaborate more on those questions, unless of course, you like me, don't really have much else to say on the points that are already out there. Then, by all means try coming at this from another angle, I don't think the ARG can be solved by trying to trace it back from events in Halo, but I could be wrong, and would be quite happy to admit it if this does lead somewhere.

[GunsmithCat]

[CoffeeJedi]

i've been googling for news reports about ufo crashes in California in the first week of July but no luck... i thought maybe there was another site out there that we're missing

[GunsmithCat]

[Astald]

GunSmith, I really think you did a good job researching, and if people still want to post here with new ideas, I see no harm in that. The only thing is that maybe the characters in this ARG are from the Halo-universe, just with no connection whatsoever to anything previously known from that universe. I'm fine with different speculations on this, but I personally don't think we know enough about these events to create a proper backstory. But like I said before, I would be happy to be wrong, it would be great if this leads into something I wasn't expected it too. So I think if you want to continue researching, then continue on.

[yanka]

[Ripp]

Gunsmith-

While I like your ideas, I can think of a few things that would toast your theory. Off the top of my head:

1. Halsey and Kelly did not have any covenant crystal in their possession when they left the "Ascendant Juistice," so I think the time-travel point is nil. While I do think they'll be extremely important to the bungieverse later on, I don't thin they relate to the ARG any more than Master Chief, Cortana or 343 Guilty Spark do.

2. Halsey didn't take any AI with her when she left the ship, so there would be no AI to transfer.

There are a few more nits I could pick at, but I think these two are the big obstacles to your theory. If you can find evidence that I'm not aware of to support your side then please present it, because I like your theory and it'd be cool if you were right. But having read all three novels, the Halo Story Page, the Marathon story page and having played Halo and Marathon, I'm hard pressed to think of anything that could help you out.

Keep thinking, because I think threads like this keep us on our toes!

Ripp

[Dorkmaster]

Just to clarify, cuz I really do think that Gunsmith is now the ONLY one who was reading more than the first sentence of my first post!

Ok, I really liked his spec. I never dissed the spec. I love the spec!

I just brought up a meta discussion, and I apologized, and DID start my own thread to discuss the subject. I tried to get away from it, so people could discuss Gunsmith's theory! I want people to stop thinking I was dissing the topic in any way! I see there may (I don't know enough about the Halo-verse) be a hole or two, but that's beside the point. Of course, everyone has the right to their spec! I want people to spec, wildly or not! I just wanted to see if there was a way we could try to clarify it all, so when glancing at the posts at work, I can avoid those I want, and you can do the same. (Not saying I would avoid this cuz it's bad, but since I know that it's Halo-based, and that it's a jump based on previous spec, I would have known that I would have nothing to contribute and would have moved on, instead of reading.)

GunSmithCat, I apologize sincerely for making your topic a trainwreck. I didn't mean to, and I really hope you know that... I apologize, and would take it back if I could. I went way off topic, and should have started the discussion through PM with you, not through the thread. Sorry.

Now, everyone stop crucifying me! ARGh! (get it? yeah, I can't even whine without bad jokes... )

[CorSorei]

First of all I like the idea, it' really interesting to see if it would work. But I do have a few words to add to what Rip said. 1) Kelly wasn't put into cryo, Halsey just knocked her out (with drugs it case anyone was going to ask) for a couple of hours. 2) The ONI stealth ship that Halsey took was decommissioned 20 years prior to events in "First Strike", therefor counld bot be the Applebee and could not have been at Reach. Like I said this is nothing agsinst you, I like your theory, but I just don't see how it can work with all the info that we have.

[babbler]

Would it be a good idea to create an entirely new subforum dedicated to Haloverse speculation and information? A lot of the static in the signal/noise imbalance comes from people speculating about the Halo timeline, which right now doesn't seem on-point to the plot. At the very least, it would give new posters a place to immediately go for their "OMG TEH MASTER CHEIF IS TEH ROXORZ" posts. (Not slamming anyone in this thread, which has been quite concise and well-done, just hoping to help clean up the forum.)

[Dorkmaster]

I'll start the thread... done and done...

[Dorkmaster]

[SPEC (Wild or otherwise) ;)] HALOVERSE & ILB

[Cu Roi]

Nothing wrong with history...

[Dorkmaster]

this would be a great topic to start here, Ouroboros:

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5388

(Edit - That sounds dismissive... don't mean to. For real, this is a new topic devoted to this type of theory.)

[Cu Roi]

(I posted this in another forum, so sorry if this qualifies as trout...but I was directed to repost it here...

Since I'm pretty stuck with the real puzzles at the moment so I thought I'd pump a few pennies into this amchine and see what I can do with it. Here are some things I think need to be cleared up.

Number one, and this is just something that pushes my buttons, is the constant misconception that Dr. Halsey found an anomaly in Kelly's DNA. It never happened and it has lead to endless speculation based upon this one misconception. The anomaly was in the FILE on Kely's DNA, not the DNA itself. Kalmiya, Cortana's sister if you will, noticed that another AI had inquired (read:spied on) about the SPARTAN program and copied data on all of the projects subjects. Kelly's DNA is normal...for a SPARTAN at least. Sorry, I know it's nitpicky, but I have seen too many people take that thread and run with it.

My next point is that I think that the AI Melissa, more likely came from the Circumference, if she came from any ship we know of already. I have several reasons to believe this. First off we know that the Circumference's network was isolated and then the Navagation crystal was destroyed by the MC. This would account for the damage and her not understanding how she got that way. Reach was then in Covenant hands for weeks, so they could have done anything to her in that time, like making a pass at recovering data from the damaged ship's AI. We know that the Covenant have very slow and primitive AI, so they may not have been able to get very far with extracting the data, even though I think the Engineers would have no problem fixing her physical systems. The Pious Flea would be a good description for any spyware left over from such an attempt. The biggest thing I see to link her with the Circumference is her nickname. The crew called her "the Operator" and where the ship's ID should have been written on the hull, MC describes a perfect circle in place of a name.

I don't think Halsey or Kelly could be on the Applebee. The prowler they left in was an outdated ship they recovered from the rebels. It was not an ONI ship disguised as a pleasure yatch. That peg doesn't fit the hole for me.

I'm going with the thoery that the queen is Melissa, the widow a repair subroutine, and SP is a hidden "backup" of the main personality. The Pious Flee seems to hint at a sinister alien presence as well.

I'm not sure if any of this is correct, I would like to hear how these people got here in the first place, regardless of their origins.

Of course that's what this ARG is all about. Figuring out how they appeared in Dana's code