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m_talon
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[Spoilers] What I learned from the Cloverfield DVD or, how to snuff several myths that JUST WON'T DIE So, being a rabid behind the scenes fan, I spent last night watching the extras on the Cloverfield DVD as well as the whole movie with commentary. As such, I felt it was time to face the facts about a few popular myths going around...
1) Marlena and Hud are most certainly dead. Both sustained massive trauma to the torso, albeit in different ways. Slow framing shows Hud being munched in half, his upper body being what hit the ground. While we never saw the aftermath of Marlena's gut bust, the DVD refers to her "death" repeatedly.
2) The fates of Rob, Beth, and Lily are intentionally left vague. Matt Reeves even came out and said they didn't want to show if Rob and Beth survived or died because it would take away from the main point of their story (the fact that they got to be with each other one last time, in spite of all that happened).
3) The camera is a video TAPE camera. Repeated references in story and behind the scenes refer to it as such. While they never explained why it says "SD card" at the beginning, it's safe to say that the original media was in fact always a tape. Perhaps the DoD transferred the footage to a card for archiving, who knows?
4) Nukes are NEVER mentioned as part of Hammer Down. One alternate ending shows a quick cut of the camera being found by someone, and they're not in a rad suit. It can be determined then that nuking NYC was never what they had in mind.
5) According to Reeves, the sound at the end was meant to be -deciphered-. In other words, it's not supposed to be obvious what it says. So, the reversed "it's still alive" is most likely the intended message, while the forward "help us" may not be.
6) Should have put this up front, but I wanted to save the best for last.
THERE IS ONLY ONE CLOVER MONSTER . That's right...just one MGP. No Mommy GP, no Daddy GP. Just baby Clover throwing one heck of a tantrum. Every behind the scenes clip about the monster says just that...it's THE monster, not one of the monsters. The same monster knocked down the buildings, the same monster nearly stomps our heroes, and the SAME MONSTER eats Hud in the park. Nowhere does anyone associated with the movie imply or state that there is more than one giant critter stomping around the city.
So, hope that helps clear things up
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:29 pm
Im_RawnBurgundy
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Thank you for the clarification on the issues we have dubunked countless times!!!
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:53 pm
OliMango
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There's only one Cloverfield monster?! You're kidding!!
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:25 pm
hello moto
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OliMango wrote:
There's only one Cloverfield monster?! You're kidding!!
*smacks face in disbelief*
i've been wrong for all this time!?
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:31 pm
Im_RawnBurgundy
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hello moto wrote:
OliMango wrote:
There's only one Cloverfield monster?! You're kidding!!
*smacks face in disbelief*
i've been wrong for all this time!?
WTF!?!!??! I saw two!!! or Three!!! ahhhhhh!
Second monster on the bridge!
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:40 pm
reagan88
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I sifted through all of the DVD extras as well and someone, I can't remember who, mentioned the notion that there was the possibility of more than one monster. I will review the footage tomorrow so I can remember the exact person who said that but it was mentioned.
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:42 pm
Im_RawnBurgundy
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NO! There is ONE monster! Good lord! This reminds me of:::
ETHAN HAAS=CLOVERFIELD!
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:44 pm
OliMango
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reagan88 wrote:
I sifted through all of the DVD extras as well and someone, I can't remember who, mentioned the notion that there was the possibility of more than one monster. I will review the footage tomorrow so I can remember the exact person who said that but it was mentioned.
Wow...and I thought my whole sarcasm skit would end this type of stuff.
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:41 pm
WartyHogger
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Beth and lilly are surely alive unless Lilly's helicopter got smashed by something, which i doubt, because clover was walking down the street, bombed, hits hud, walks to central park, eats hud, and walks off to be bombed, surly Lilly got out.
And Alt Ending #2, "Rob! Rob!," Beth has to be alive, and once again. Thus being an alt ending so...yea :\
(sarcasm here ) "Rob can't die he's like your main dude." (End Sarcasm)
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:55 pm
jarofsap704
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wow, only about 2 people aren't being douchebags to this guy.
Rawn, ur negative in just about every post i've seen. Relax. It's a movie.
(If you are the King of the Internet I'm really sorry, please don't get the internet to come to my house and beat me up)
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:16 pm
OliMango
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jarofsap704 wrote:
wow, only about 2 people aren't being douchebags to this guy.
Rawn, ur negative in just about every post i've seen. Relax. It's a movie.
(If you are the King of the Internet I'm really sorry, please don't get the internet to come to my house and beat me up)
I'm not being negative, I'm being sarcastic. There's a rather large difference.
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:20 pm
intersect
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Addendum:
7. The Cloverfield monster is not Godzilla.
(after watching the hud-chomp scene a couple of times, i do believe you can see some gore and shut teeth as he falls away, definitely dead)
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:31 pm
Richie
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lostgunslinger2 wrote:
Addendum:
7. The Cloverfield monster is not Godzilla.
(after watching the hud-chomp scene a couple of times, i do believe you can see some gore and shut teeth as he falls away, definitely dead)
Actually if you play the dvd slowly, #1 yes there is gore when he is bit and #2 when Hud and the camera are falling to the ground, there is a shot back up of the monster and you can see Huds legs with tennis shoes still on, sticking out of the monsters mouth.
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:11 am
WartyHogger
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Richie wrote:
lostgunslinger2 wrote:
Addendum:
7. The Cloverfield monster is not Godzilla.
(after watching the hud-chomp scene a couple of times, i do believe you can see some gore and shut teeth as he falls away, definitely dead)
Actually if you play the dvd slowly, #1 yes there is gore when he is bit and #2 when Hud and the camera are falling to the ground, there is a shot back up of the monster and you can see Huds legs with tennis shoes still on, sticking out of the monsters mouth.
Exactly, not at all gory for something that was suppose to of been "eaten"
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:32 am
OliMango
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Richie wrote:
lostgunslinger2 wrote:
Addendum:
7. The Cloverfield monster is not Godzilla.
(after watching the hud-chomp scene a couple of times, i do believe you can see some gore and shut teeth as he falls away, definitely dead)
Actually if you play the dvd slowly, #1 yes there is gore when he is bit and #2 when Hud and the camera are falling to the ground, there is a shot back up of the monster and you can see Huds legs with tennis shoes still on, sticking out of the monsters mouth.
Can you screenshot it for me? I'd like to see.
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:33 am
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