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@ IngyW
Yes, you would prob have to sign up to see the pic, it's free, and you can forget about it after!

@Cabbage, I remember saying something about E I being the queen ( in relation to Dee), but I am liking the rest of your analogy. Who are all of the other characters then?

Every theory we have, lets crowbar what we know into it, one of us is likely to get the answer!

BTW, we don't even know the question!!!
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For my take I think Toby has been a little renegade overall - with the deleted blog, and now this. I don't think there's anymore here than closing off things we should maybe have spotted - I don't think there's anything that will help with the Alice story.

My summary:
Alice
Has Temperance
and has the clue that the Path of Love is probably the highest scoring path in Mirrorland.

The March Hare needs:
Help from outside
His Queen
The true names of the two brothers

But, what do we need to do? This isn't clear. However given The March hare has moved to a new site it seems we have no way of communicating, so I think we need to get Alice to talk to him, somehow give him Temperance, and tell him how the Path scores are changed in the mirror world.

Do we also need to tell him the name of his Queen? Or suggest the true names of the brothers? I almost think we don't, as has been pointed out he should know the name of his Queen, and he knows who the two brothers are. However it's always better to be safe than sorry, so I think we should pass this on too.

P.S. Why is it brothers now? I thought one was male one female? Confused
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IngyW wrote:


Also thinking about Jacques "M'aidez" email. Could something be happening this Thursday?



? E-mail? What did I miss?


EDIT: Oh, just realised, 100 posts. Whoop!!

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It's always been brothers as far as I can remember alisdair, the only time a female was mentioned in relation to doom was when MA first met him and doom was pretending to be The World by being a figure of indiscriminate sex.

Ok, my analysis is that I'm not sure there is anything for us to do at the moment, perhaps finding new sites if any kloos present themselves (such as the 308 in the map for the last story...grates on me that I can't work out what it means)

As far as I can tell from looking at MA's cards, even with temperance he's going to need another card in order to get any path at all, let alone a low one (which we now know are really high).

here's my wishful thinking of how things are going to go down...


    Alice will go into the mirror to give MA temperance, which will remind him of hattie somehow (it was hatties card so I'm assuming it's a characteristic of hers, or perhaps like the name LIttle John it's her exact opposite Smile )

    Thinking of hattie in the right way will take him to her in the mirror world.

    Doom will appear somehow, possibly with his brother, and try to block MA, possibly trying to hurt hattie

    On seeing Hattie threatened, MA will realise he loves her, this will give him *wait for it Wink * the Strength he needs to carry on, and the card strength will appear to him, giving him "the path of love", doom wont realise this, and will think he's winning. he'll ask for a showdown, both players will reveal their hands...MA wins!

    epilogue:they all leave the mirror, the mirror folk destroy the brothers, MA and hattie get married, alice finishes her amazing new novel, jacques and bella get engaged etc. etc. etc. and they all live happily ever after Very Happy



enormously unlikely but this is the ending I'm holding our for...

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The only thing I can think of that might be important about getting a new clue to something we missed is that we eventually have to combine and use all the different numbers in some way - like a telephone number.

For instance, will we be shown the pages of the faded telephone directory of story 6 at some point, and then have to piece together the right number to phone or the right extension number to contact?

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? E-mail? What did I miss?


I believe the email from Jaques about the meeting was entitled "M'aidez". I can't find the refernce here; I looked it up on WLP last night: http://www.welovepuzzles.com/jforum/posts/list/45/640.page


So a summery of things that I've been thinking about:

Why didn't Jacques mention Dorcus? Didn't he know about her?
Is the Eastern European girl still important (or have I missed something and she's already been identified)?

Numbers I can think of just now:
308 (story 6, although as AndyAndy pointed out earlier, upside down it could be a key)
400 - A.L.I.C.E. is 400 years old.
Numbers from the diary in Slice (as per my previous postings) 66, 26, 15

Page 139 of MO says

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There are barely any rules and those which do exist seem only to be obeyed half the time. I had a friend once who would have told me that I just had to look harder for the rules under the rules

I'm assuming Dorcus is that friend. This seems to back up what she knows about cheating. Probably not relevent any more, but only just noticed, so I thought I'd throw that in.

EDIT: http://www.tobylitt.com/morehares.html has erased the clues we were looking at! similar to Slice's blog.

I looked at the Scary Child Drawing. I think "Emily" is written underneath. probably not a kloo; now if it had been drawn by an Alice...


I'll be visiting a library today, I'll try and look up page 210 while I'm there.

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I don't really know...

...if it's related to the main story, and all the talk of dates in the Slice blog is completely beyond me. I also don't know if this was pointed out earlier and I missed it, but the Toby Litt trail continues here:

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http://www.tobylitt.com/thechaseproper.html found on his website in the poetry section.


Edit: Ah - it seems to point to a page (once you follow the trail a bit) that must be the one that some found earlier on, since it refs all those dates. Did the link from the front page before just point straight to it, or am I just being slow?
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I can't honestly remember, Wukka!
Couple of things:
The new comments on Slice both say that following the hare is a way to find Slice.

So how do those three names help us?

And, what about the character names? What's to see in those if we look more closely?

Question

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Quick entry, between coming home & getting dinner. I got "The People's Music from the library (I was just going to look at it, but wanted to read more of the essays so borrowed it.) Pg. 210 onwards is (as I think we guessed?) the essay about Nick Drake,called "Exiled from Heaven:The Unheard message of Nick Drake"
I'm not quite sure how Lewis Carroll, Anne Frank and Nick Drake connect to Slice, Ray,Lynn,Claribella-Pussywillow, Betty,Joey,Mary Jane and Jacomo though...

Wukka, I found a comment on Slice's blog leading me straight to the morehare page. The Chase Proper could be promising, I'll have to read it later, the orginal page the link from Slice's blog has since lost all the clues, so i guess you've re-found them. Smile

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IngyW
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http://www.tobylitt.com/morehares.html has erased the clues we were looking at! similar to Slice's blog.


This can now be found at

http://www.tobylitt.com/morehares2.html
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Sorry if I missed this in someone else's post, but if you click on the hare drawing on the tobylitt home page there's a puzzle trail...

EDIT, Nevermind it ends up at morehares2 anyway, and isn't that much of a puzzle trail, mainly just click on the links.
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@ IngyW, I think most of the names refer to Nick Drake lyrics, as veebee pointed out on the previous page...some are possibly velvet underground lyrics too as Cabbage said. I'm not sure this isn't just Toby being a bit annoyed that we didn't see his clever kloo trail :/

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Temperance

Just been reading about the Temperance card on various websites.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/tarot/pkt/pktar14.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperance_%28Tarot_card%29

The Tarot card temperance has an interesting image and key words associated with it:

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Temperance is almost invariably depicted as a person pouring liquid from one receptacle into another. Historically, this was a standard symbol of the virtue temperance, representing the dilution of wine with water.


My own theory is that Alice has to break into the locked Tantalus in the attic and retrieve a bottle of hare restorer to rescue Thomas. Razz

Quote:
In many decks, the person is a winged person/angel, usually female or androgynous, and stands with one foot on water and one foot on land.


How apposite if, as we suspect, Alice is about to cross from the real world into the mirror world!

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Some Jungians say that Temperance represents the unconscious, which can guide us, they contend, to a deeper understanding of ourselves, and maybe even a meaningful life. The one foot on the land, the other in the water, represents the unification of the external and internal, conscious and unconscious, realms.


- it is thought to represent the Self.

Also, in the Thoth Tarot the card is known as Art.

Bring on the endgame!

When we had to write stories about the Wheel of Fortune, we were given very clear instructions to do so. Are we just waiting for Alice to make her next move and to explicitly ask us to help again?
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Temperance

Cabbage wrote:
Just been reading about the Temperance card on various websites.

Bring on the endgame!

When we had to write stories about the Wheel of Fortune, we were given very clear instructions to do so. Are we just waiting for Alice to make her next move and to explicitly ask us to help again?


I like this thinking... makes sense to me!

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I think they are watching us. Dorcas has updated Treacle and Ink!

Fellow Web Log Readers!

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
It doesn't look good, looks like Alice has become the next victim of the mirror!

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