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True CloverField inMovie timeline
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BranJ
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True CloverField inMovie timeline

Ok to start this off, we all know the time periods from the ARG and actual movie are different right? But while i reviewed the movie i noticed some scenes with clocks in them, so i could find the time some scenes took place even if they didnt have the time at the bottom.

April 27 6:45AM-6:59AM
Rob and Beth at her Dad's place
(Hes out of town)

April 27 11:14AM
Rob and Beth on the Train/Part 1

April 27 11:23AM
Rob and Beth on the train/Part 2
Rob says: Roller coasters are fun, but, like, any kind of tea cuppy thing

April 27 11:33AM-11:34AM
Rob and Beth on the train/ Part 3
(they talk about Japan)

April 27 11:55AM
Rob and Beth on the train/ Part 4
Beth says: Totally not what i was thinking

April 27 12:16PM
Rob and Beth are off the train

April 27 6:17PM
Rob and Beth at coney Island
ChimpanzIII Satellite piece drops into the ocean
(The tape ends)

May 22 6:43PM-6:49PM
Lily and Jason go party SHOPPIN

May 22 7:19PM-7:23PM
The group prepares for Rob's party and Jason gives his testimonial

May 23 11:37-11:38
Beth gives her testimonial

May 23 12:16AM-12:18AM
Lily tells Jason and Hud, Rob and Beth's lil' Secret

May 23 12:42AM
Clover Attacks NewYork city

May 23 3:17AM
Scene: Underground Subway
Rob tells his mom the Bad news

May 23 6:00AM
Rob, Beth,Hud and Lily board the Choppers
(Lily boards a seperate Chopper)

May 23 6:42AM
Rob and Beth give there Death speaches and NewYork is Leveled

I will like to add that it appears either the movie has NOTHING to do with the ARG or they just didnt know how to make them correspond.
And here is my proof of that: On 1-18-08.com pic 2 is of Rob having a great party with his brother and friends but the time says 12:01AM and we all know his party was ruined some where around 11 O'Clock because Beth walked in with "Travis". Some more proof is Pic 1 of Merlena and Lily starring in shock BUT the time says 12:36 and the monster attacked at 12:42, i know it was 12:42 because at the end of the movie it was 6:42Am and Rob says "approximately" 7 Hours ago something attacked the city and 7Hours - 6:42 is some where around 12:42... so what the hell was Lily and Merlena scared of when the monster didnt even attack yet...

PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:44 pm
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the SHOCKED pic was a screenshot of a part in the movie, just really zoomed in.

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BranJ
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the SHOCKED pic was a screenshot of a part in the movie, just really zoomed in.
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i realize that but it happened before the monster attacked if you want to compare movie with ARG, so i think they have NOTHING to do with each other


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I think you got your quoting messed up.


The point is that the ARG/E wasn't needed to enjoy the movie, but that it enhances it. Something I didn't notice until DVD, for instance, was My Fair Lady being mentioned, as it was on the myspace. A little wink to those who followed it, along with numerous other instances. Very Happy

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OK, are we going a wee bit overboard here by declaring 'nothing to do with the movie' because they hosed the continuity?
I mean really, this 'ARG' (which is by no means a traditional ARG) has the same characters played by the same people - but it's got nothing to do with the film. The events depicted happen to be still shots from the film, but the viral campaign has nothing to do with the film. Sound a bit tediously stupid yet?

When the viral campaign was being put on, much of the film wasn't even 'in the can' yet, and the story and effects weren't done yet either. The times you see in the film are basically overlaid by effects, probably long after the images for the viral had been put out. It would have been nice if they'd managed to make them fall into continuity with each other, but they didn't. Considering this whole deal - film and viral - basically got created in 7 months. It usually takes over a year to make ANY film, and probably 3-6 mos. to plan any serious online project like the viral at least is trying to be. I think considering all of that, they did a really good job.

Get over the inconsistencies, you are losing sight of the forest for the trees.
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Well, it's probably just an extreme screwup on 42's part.

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i've poured over this several times myself. i think it's all got to be simple coincidence that it worked out that way.

everything involving the ARG tries to make it seem like the attack literally took place on 1-18-08. i think the ideas for the movie were done, and it was underway and everything, and that the viral stuff (aside from creating hype) wasn't intended to be as big as it ended up. but all the hype that was generated flicked a switch with the ARG creators, and they decided that connections had to be made, and that they could really do something cool with it all.

make much sense? maybe. a lot of my friends on here and i have postulated the shit out of the discrepancies. one of the main things is that as me and you are watching the film, we're not watching it AS IT HAPPENS. we're watching a military archive of the camera footage. so who knows what? one can say that the events took place in may, but the camera and evidence wasn't retrieved until around 1-18-08, but then you have the folks that pop up and say "the next time may 23rd falls on a saturday is 2009!!"

either way you slice it, it seems to end up just being a coincidence, or something overlooked. and we can all argue it to death, or enjoy the REAL mysteries as they keep coming.

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porrphyrhia wrote:
i've poured over this several times myself. i think it's all got to be simple coincidence that it worked out that way.

everything involving the ARG tries to make it seem like the attack literally took place on 1-18-08. i think the ideas for the movie were done, and it was underway and everything, and that the viral stuff (aside from creating hype) wasn't intended to be as big as it ended up. but all the hype that was generated flicked a switch with the ARG creators, and they decided that connections had to be made, and that they could really do something cool with it all.

make much sense? maybe. a lot of my friends on here and i have postulated the shit out of the discrepancies. one of the main things is that as me and you are watching the film, we're not watching it AS IT HAPPENS. we're watching a military archive of the camera footage. so who knows what? one can say that the events took place in may, but the camera and evidence wasn't retrieved until around 1-18-08, but then you have the folks that pop up and say "the next time may 23rd falls on a saturday is 2009!!"

either way you slice it, it seems to end up just being a coincidence, or something overlooked. and we can all argue it to death, or enjoy the
REAL mysteries as they keep coming.


Damn, and I liked that idea. Haha.

However, I don't think the times in the ARG really matter too much because they don't get in the way with the story. If we just pretend it never said 1-18-08 then it works pretty well.

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You missed some more important times:

The movie starts at 6:42 AM. Jason and Lily go shopping at 6:42 PM. Beth and Rob get bombed at 6:42 AM.

Once is an off-chance, twice is a coincidence, thrice is a pattern, so what could be the connection?

I reckon it might be the number six. 4+2 is six so you'd get six-six. The movie ends at 6:17. 6:6 if you do 7-1. If the monster attacked arround 12:42, that's 6x2:6. There's also 6:00 AM.

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BranJ
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I understand guys, but the way they put clocks in some rooms makes it seem like its important to know the times.

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amjdmg wrote:
You missed some more important times:

The movie starts at 6:42 AM. Jason and Lily go shopping at 6:42 PM. Beth and Rob get bombed at 6:42 AM.

Once is an off-chance, twice is a coincidence, thrice is a pattern, so what could be the connection?

I reckon it might be the number six. 4+2 is six so you'd get six-six. The movie ends at 6:17. 6:6 if you do 7-1. If the monster attacked arround 12:42, that's 6x2:6. There's also 6:00 AM.


You ever watch LOST? JJ and friends love to take numbers and reuses them over and over again if for no other reason than to make us all go "hey, it's the same number!" Smile

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cuppajoe07 wrote:
However, I don't think the times in the ARG really matter too much because they don't get in the way with the story. If we just pretend it never said 1-18-08 then it works pretty well.


That's a winner right there.

There was obviously a disconnect between the dates in the ARG (which were real time) and the dates in the movie. The dates in the movie had to be when they were, or certain events wouldn't have happened. Precisely, Coney Island doesn't open until Easter which falls on these dates:

2007 - Sunday, April 8th
2008 - Sunday, March 23rd
2009 - Sunday, April 12th
2010 - Sunday, April 4th

And yet, the ARG was played out in real time in the months leading up to the movie's release in January '08. If the ARG timeline was accurate, Rob and Beth couldn't have went to Coney Island. Even if they could, the temperature during their date AND during the movie would have been in the 30's or 40's...MUCH COLDER than what we saw.

Anyway, I'm bordering on a trout with that. The point is that the filmmakers had one timeline in their minds, and the game makers had a different one since they had limited information to work with. They did what they could, and it's effective if you disregard the times and dates.

Going back to the subject of canon in a different thread, from the way the filmmakers have talked the events of the ARG are most likely canon but the dates given aren't. There's too many Easter Eggs in the movie to completely discount the ARG (Slusho, the Tag tanker, and the satellite fall). Reeves himself said there was stuff in there for us who followed the buildup online, so there is at least SOME canon there.

So, for the original post I think he's pretty spot on with the timing. I wouldn't sweat the 12:36am timestamp on the Lena/Lil pic, just because 12:36-6:42 is "approximately 7 hours". Even if you back up and say that the monster attacked at 12:30 or so, it still works out given that Rob isn't exactly in a state of mind to be precise.

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Monstrous wrote:
Well, it's probably just an extreme screwup on 42's part.


What exactly do you mean by that?
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