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[Twitter] Ariadne 04.29.08 - Philadelphia Omph Knot
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 		[Twitter] Ariadne 04.29.08 - Philadelphia Omph Knot
ariadnelost wondering if the philadelphia city laybrinth is an "omph knot"? http://forums.findthelostri... 33 minutes ago from web

When Ariadne "wonders" it's sometimes a not so subtle hint that we missed something or need to do something...

Weezel wonders if Ariadne will check her email and respond about Bacon sandwiches....
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 		Re: Ariadne Tweet 04.29.08
Weezel wrote:
ariadnelost wondering if the philadelphia city laybrinth is an "omph knot"? http://forums.findthelostri... 33 minutes ago from web

When Ariadne "wonders" it's sometimes a not so subtle hint that we missed something or need to do something...


I agree, although the spec that Philadelphia was one of the 'knots' for Jorge and Co. is not new. I've tried combining the MAKE OMPH KNOT command with Philadelphia, Node 16, 27, Delphi, etc etc etc with no luck. So I don't know what she wants us to do with this information.

EDIT: She's now posted a whole blog entry on this topic:
http://www.findthelostring.com/ariadne/detail.do?postId=1527

Ariadne wrote:

Do you remember the old map of Philadelphia that Monica found among her uncle's old things? The one that had a giant labyrinth designed on top of the city center?

Here's my idea. I think that map was part of the original 6's attempts to build an omphalos out of the earth. Just like chapter 23 of the codex tells us to do.

Check it out. The map is labeled node #16. As in, 16 out of 27?

Were the original six working their way around the world, hiding the 27 artifacts and building 27 giant labyrinths in order to transform the earth into an omphalos?

Think about what Chapter 23 tells us:

"You should also take note that neither ordinary omphalos and neither ordinary labyrinths are able to support what is necessary for multiversal travel."

and

"You have to create at least 27 labyrinths of the same scale of the passage."

I wonder if the artifact in Brest will explain more about what these cryptic statements really mean. I hope so. If we can find out just a little more about how to do giant labyrinths, we can start activating the world for multiverse travel.

Now don't get me wrong. I'm not going to try to turn the world into an omphalos so I can get the heck out of here. I know. We have a mission to accomplish. The 6 of us who traveled here, we have a duty to the multiverse. Revive the lost sport, synchronize the worlds through athletic games, kick Eli Hunt's ass a little (just kidding).

But if we can save the worlds AND go home, then you better believe that's what going to happen. It just has to.

Now, I don't know if we're going to find 26 other maps like the Philadelphia one... I think we need to be prepared to design our own. But in which cities? Does it matter where the 27 knots are?

Maybe the Brest artifact will tell us more... or maybe the omphaputer will guide us when we've shown that we're ready to "Make the omph knot"?



I repeat: 27?? Oy vey!

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 		Hm, I'm intrigued by the idea of 'making an omphalos' from the earth. Maybe once we get the Brest artifact it'll be time to get on Google maps and start poking around the cities where artifacts were found?
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 		I am proud of myself, because I posted the connection between the "omphalos making" and the maps Monica found already yesterday here . Smile

I assume that the other map (the one I posted) may perhaps include more clues than the Philadielphia map. Even though I still do not know, what we can do with the maps (e.g. the transparent one).


[Update]
Here a link to some information regarding Philadelphia and early railways:
http://www.ushistory.org/philadelphia/railroad.htm

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 		i know for sure that melbourne does, but how many of the codex location cities have a grid like CBD. that a labyrith could easily be overlayed onto??

this could mean that it could be these cities or other cities around the world.


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 		This would also mean that Philadelphia could be used on the PanCosmologer for alignment, giving us a third city.. granted, only in Gaea...
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 		This is interesting:

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maybe the omphaputer will guide us when we've shown that we're ready to "Make the omph knot"?


Do we show we're ready by entering locations of the mega-labyrinths in some way?

Didn't Diego, awhile ago, suggest making a labyrinth out of somewhere in South America? (Buenos Aries?)

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Elizabeth123 wrote:
Do we show we're ready by entering locations of the mega-labyrinths in some way?
I think it is by acquiring all 27 codex and entering the 4 remaining pruvo codes in the Omphaputer.

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Weezel wrote:
This would also mean that Philadelphia could be used on the PanCosmologer for alignment, giving us a third city.. granted, only in Gaea...


I do not think so (at the moment), because

1. We do not know with what cities on Gaea we should align the 5 other Philadelphias (e.g. like London or Munich for Madrid and Warren)

2. It is easier to make a fit with 2 points (one for translation and one for the rotation). The third one has to fit and if not ... no parameter to make it fit.

I guess the task will be vice versa. When we have aligned the worlds, we can find the places where the other Philadelphias will end up in Gaea (in our world)

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 		Could some generous Spanish-speaking individual ask Monica nicely to post better/more/clearer images of Alfredo's artifacts -- in particular the one on tracing paper? It would help to try to figure out what that's all about.

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 		By the way, I've been thinking of the blank space in the sentence:
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And to knot the knots, you have to create at least 27 labyrinths of the same scale that the passage (blank space).

The word should be greek, and consindeing from the context it should be "omphalos".
"The passage omphalos" corresponds to the Earth, so we have to make 27 labyrinth of the same scale of the Earth.
Doesn't this mean each labyrinth should have the size of the Earth, and the network of 27 labyrinths should cover the whole multiverse?
And the six might be already traveling around the Earth = running through the labyrinth.

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unagi wrote:
By the way, I've been thinking of the blank space in the sentence:
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And to knot the knots, you have to create at least 27 labyrinths of the same scale that the passage (blank space).

The word should be greek, and consindeing from the context it should be "omphalos".
"The passage omphalos" corresponds to the Earth, so we have to make 27 labyrinth of the same scale of the Earth.
Doesn't this mean each labyrinth should have the size of the Earth, and the network of 27 labyrinths should cover the whole multiverse?
And the six might be already traveling around the Earth = running through the labyrinth.


I think it means that the "scale" has to be the same.
A knot is a small part of an omphalos. But not minuscule.
So the labyrinth needs to me a small part of the earth omphalos, but not minuscule.

I think that is why she's encouraging us to run city sized labyrinths.
We've got 2 examples, the one overlaid on Philadelphia, and the other overlaid on Buenos Aires. http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=511233

Edit: personally, I could probably walk the one laid out for Buenos Aires, but that philadelphia "urban labyrinth" would take me all day to walk.

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 		I agree the labyrinths Ariadne is talking about are the ones you are talking about. But I mean they might be different from the labyrinths the Ch.23 wrote about. (Namely, I mean Ariadne might be partially wrong.)

What do you think about the following?
Ch.23 wrote:
In order to pass through the great distances of the multiverse (blank space), you have to create an omphalos on the scale of the multiverse itself.



EDIT: at last I have understood I was totally wrong. sapagoo is right. I apologize sincerely to you all, I was too excited.

The reason why I made a misunderstanding is that I couldn't imagine that the size of multiverse is similar to the size of the earth in the normal three-dimensional space. So I thought the multiverse is much much larger than the earth, and that the earth is a knot in the multiverse omphalos. As jasper wrote here, the word distance in Ch.23 is special, but I thought it is three-dimensional distance. I'm very sorry.

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