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hunter2458 wrote:
porrphyrhia wrote:

so, i don't doubt at all that the depth measurements are correct. ridiculous, yes, but go on tagruato.jp for yourself and read up again. they are probably more than capable of doing so.


But we also determined the depth measurements don't fit the location of Chuai, there's nothing deeper than 3k+ Meters in the Atlantic, so it's still busted.


Wrong. The average depth of the Atlantic is 3600 meters, but the deepest point is 8,605 m. (source)

I don't think it is unreasonable to believe that Tagruato found a previously undiscovered spot that was deeper.

hunter2458 wrote:
Well, if we're going into pure fiction then yeh, there's a trench at Chuai.


This is pure fiction, since the photos aren't real, the Monster and parasites are not real...

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Ah, thank you CloverfieldClues, I was going off someone else who mentioned the deepest of the atlantic was around 3.5k. Thanks for shedding new light ^_^

And, I realize that was pure fiction, I just thought they were trying to keep it as real as possible.

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well, they are keeping it real (fo shizzle). but at the same time, we're dealing with shit-tons of fiction. giant monsters, fake drilling companies, and the like. the oceans are honestly still more unexplored than our own friggin' solar system, so yea. i agree with the poster that stated that they could've found a deeper spot.

we know less about our own planet than we know about disease, atomic structure, psychology, outer space, the list can go on.

i do agree that 10,000 meters is a long shot. that's friggin deep. if you want to be rational about it, a creature that lives at such depths, with such pressure, should entirely disintegrate once it reaches normal atmospheric pressure. i saw a show on nat geo the other day about deep ocean fish who seemingly commit suicide... one day a year, they surface in droves, and once they reach the level of pressure unequal to their natural habitat, their bodies basically explode... they were designed by nature to survive at extreme pressure.... once that pressure is gone, their bodies can no longer hold themselves together.

bit of a digression, but just trying to point out the huge aspect of fiction.

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hunter2458 wrote:
Ah, thank you CloverfieldClues, I was going off someone else who mentioned the deepest of the atlantic was around 3.5k.


That's why it is always a good idea to check this kind of stuff out for yourself. There is a LOT of misinformation spread around here to support one theory or another.

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CloverfieldClues.com wrote:
Wrong. The average depth of the Atlantic is 3600 meters, but the deepest point is 8,605 m. (source)I don't think it is unreasonable to believe that Tagruato found a previously undiscovered spot that was deeper.


Or they dug the last bit to 10K.. as I mentioned, they are mining.
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?Sander wrote:
Is this better? Or am i still a terrible liar Razz?


The definition of LIE - a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive

That is, telling something that is false, even though you know it is false. If you don't know that it is false, then you are just wrong, not a liar.

OK, now that we got that out of the way...

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The sister of the famous Teddy Hanssen, Alyse Hanssen, created a blog and a campaign to find her brother. Teddy was a member of TIDOwave and got captured by Tagruato when he was on a mission to find out the secrets behind (Tagruato's) Chaui Station. He was held hostage there. (He went missing) He is also is the boyfriend of Jamie, he sent her evidence from the station which contained Seabed nectar, a Slusho! hat and a recorded message in which Teddy states he is being held captive by Tagruato. (on the station and they "found something", and not to contact the authorities.) Jamie saw this as a joke (and ate the evidence).


Teddy isn't famous, although he was a former employee of Tagruato, working for Paraffun. Also, we don't know that he was captured - we have know idea what actually happened to him. All we know is that he went to the Chuai station, and was never heard from again, which is why he send the evidence to Jamie.

?Sander wrote:
The poster was made by Alyse.


This is the blog Alyse made: Missing Teddy Hanssen
She posted a few things to find out what happened to her brother and she got in a discussion with a CIA agent called John Garrettie. He (Someone anonymously) would send her the missing files that she was looking for that would answer her question: "Where is Teddy Hanssen?".

The CIA agent (anonymous person) sent her this website: Index of /usgx8810b467233px/ref/


We don't know that the CIA agent is the anonymous source. It could be Teddy for all we know...

?Sander wrote:
The website contains three pictures:
This one shows the monster at Chaui Station (Probably after it got destroyed, you also see a Submarine with a Tagruato logo on it).


I would say AS he is attacking the station, not after. And I think those are probably observation rooms, not subs (I DO think the second picture has subs).

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Superfuzzzz wrote:
Damn! 20 pages in less than 24 hours

THAT IS CLEARLY THE TOP OF THE SWORD LOGO IN THE PICTURES!!!
IN THE PIC WITH THE PARASITES YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE IT BOTTOM CENTER!

If it is camera framing, I have never seen anything like that before.
If it is then someone needs to show me a different picture with framing like that.


Proof enough that that IS the camera's framing?
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^ Thank you. Really, I have only seen the Sword here - http://www.usgx8810b467233px.com/access.htm . My question, though, is- was the Sword always there, from when this place was first discovered? Or was it added? o_o

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Clover wrote:
^ Thank you. Really, I have only seen the Sword here - http://www.usgx8810b467233px.com/access.htm . My question, though, is- was the Sword always there, from when this place was first discovered? Or was it added? o_o


Dunno, when I first saw that page it already had it.
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I disagree

no camera I know has any framing that shows up in pictures
I see why you think that, but IMO that is the sword logo.

BTW, I asked you to show me any photos unrelated to Cloverfield where the framing from the camera shows up

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Superfuzzzz wrote:
I disagree

no camera I know has any framing that shows up in pictures
I see why you think that, but IMO that is the sword logo.

BTW, I asked you to show me any photos unrelated to Cloverfield where the framing from the camera shows up
It could simply be that the PMs wanted to make a unique camera view, you know? I strongly disbelive that they are Swords, because every time the Sword is seen, it is very obvious. It is staring us in the face. These shapes, they are multiple, and partially obscured. Where is the comma shape? Why would they hide that?

another thought occurs, though this may be even more disagreeable- they could be clips, holding the photos onto something else. :/

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I see that my conclusion that the lighted things on the platform's legs are observation decks has been taken a bit far. If you notice the parasite image, you'll see the pattern of the lighting on it. This is not what we see on those things on the legs. That's one reason I figured they weren't clusters of the same subs, because the lighting devices are in the wrong pattern. It's hard to get a look at the other small subs in the drilling platform picture, but it appears they also have more lights around their dome - so you'd at least be looking at 2 types of subs. The thing that makes me think those aren't docked clusters of subs is that there's no need to have scores of such subs, and no reason to have them all lit up all the time wasting a lot of energy.

When I played with the memo image, I noticed a couple of things. I am not sure if it's the result of how they generated the image alone, or if it's supposed to sort of 'tell the story' of how they got to where they are now. The printing and scan pattern are indicative of either a fax or flatbed scanner (or primitive xerography), but when I zoomed in and pushed the levels around I see that the pixels are color. Faxes and copiers only do black and white by design, so this is basically an artifact of a flatbed scanner. The obscuring marks are pretty solidly black though, so if the item was scannned initially, it was then printed and marked on, then rescanned. This basically means the document would have been scanned, sent via a medium that preserves color, then printed and redacted, then scanned again and uploaded.

I've also looked at the other two images with levels adjusted. Common sense tells you that the 4 framing devices and the 'target overlay' are exactly that. As for any other talk...

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I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the giant thing taking photos underneath the ocean looks like a giant IMAX camera with lights-- google it.

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kenclops wrote:
google it.


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Why not just give us the link?

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CloverfieldClues.com wrote:
All we know is that he went to the Chuai station


Actually we don't even know that, we only know he was on one of their stations.
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