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[SKY][TRAILHEAD] The Sky Remains
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markzpot
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Oh, I forgot to mention before. In addition to the soduko-puzzle being an "Artifact: Ice", the letter from Harry to Wendy has some slightly marked letters in it. I havent seen any reference to it so I thought Id just throw it out there,

It reads
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
ARTIFACTSUN


PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 12:16 pm
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natas
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This is already posted on the wiki here:

http://theskyremains.wikidot.com/wendy-s-puzzles

click on the "puzzle 5" tab.

EDIT; changed to puzzle 5 tab. instead of puzzle 4.

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carmenmiranda
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Quote:
How much is a flight normally without the sale? out of curiosity. I would help pitch in on the airfare if we could find a way to set it up.


Hmm. I just looked, and it just so happens that RyanAir has a special on flights to Milan out of Stansted. I could do it for £12.99 plus taxes, which ends up being about £50. Which, funny enough, is less than Russell would have paid for a train to Bristol.

Now, my schedule seems like it is going to be the limiting factor. I will see what I can do, and get back to you.

...unless some other Londoner is dying to spend a weekend in Milan. I, too, would be happy to throw some cash at it.

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Pied Piper
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carmenmiranda wrote:
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How much is a flight normally without the sale? out of curiosity. I would help pitch in on the airfare if we could find a way to set it up.


Hmm. I just looked, and it just so happens that RyanAir has a special on flights to Milan out of Stansted. I could do it for £12.99 plus taxes, which ends up being about £50. Which, funny enough, is less than Russell would have paid for a train to Bristol.

Now, my schedule seems like it is going to be the limiting factor. I will see what I can do, and get back to you.

...unless some other Londoner is dying to spend a weekend in Milan. I, too, would be happy to throw some cash at it.


Drat, drat, drat!!!! That's it--I'm moving to London. Clearly, I am living in the wrong place, where airfare is MUCH too expensive. The likelihood of me actually making it even as far as Los Angeles, which I was spouting off about "Yeah, I'm going to find that darned shard" is about as likely as my becoming the next Pope.

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To Nitefoll, Russell_k, and carmenmiranda
GPS necessary for finding the shards?

So, I'd like answers from each one of you, since I am giving my friend in Sunnyvale information to go get one of the shards. He is DEFINITELY going to get this done, I think even if he has to go himself, and he may be relying on a picture via Google maps to get him there. He's sent me an image (which I'll attach as an update to this message once I check to make sure that it looks to me like it is the same as the image from the IG map)--do you think you could have found the shards that you did if you had not had a GPS unit on you? I'm asking because if I'm remembering correctly, carmenmiranda mentioned that fortunately Hazel had one on her which was more accurate than the one on her (CM's) phone.

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carmenmiranda
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You can almost certainly do it without a GPS system. As I said, our GPS system got us to "roughly" the right area, and then we looked at the Google maps to pinpoint it more directly.

What I would advise is to take successive Google maps at various zoom levels, and use the closest in to give you the more pinpointed location.

Unless you have a much better GPS than we did, it's not going to give you pinpoint accuracy anyway.

The locations were not necessarily obvious, but they were in the sorts of places you'd expect someone to hide something. In other words, they weren't buried, and you don't have to destroy anything to find them. But get to the best-zoomed Google location, and then have a look around. If there's a bridge, look under it. If there's a hollowed-out log, look inside. If there's a convenient-looking notch in a tree, try there.

That being said, I haven't looked at that location on Google. I'll have a gander in a sec; I'm trying to get these videos done. The problem is the file size. Shrinking them down is getting irritating.

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Russell
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Aye i agree with Carmen thats exactly what we did. The hardest one to pinpoint would be the one in gloucester as its in the middle of a forest with no obvious landmarks. Each one of our places were in woodland so it didnt really matter the age of the googlemaps as it was unlikely the trees would have changed much. If its in a built up area there is a chance that the buildings may have changed.

That said when you get to the area use your gut instinct. On our first shard I immediately looked at the bridge as it seemed the most obvious place to hide it. After 15 minutes of then scrambling around in bushes I took another look at the bridge and found it really well hidden in a camouflaged bag ><

Carmen gogogo post the vids!

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I agree with Russel and Carmen though I did use my GPS as the tree cover on Google Maps made it impossible to see the ground and this disguised the fact that there were lots and LOTS of places Shard 9 could have been. Even with map print outs, I would have been searching for a VERY long had I not been able to narrow the search area further and stumble across the "Blair Witch" type structure. I suppose perseverance is the keyword of the day Smile
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Pied Piper
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Thanks for the input

Thank you three shard-finders for your input. It looks like the two in California do not have an enormous amount of trees around them, especially the Palo Alto/San Jose one, so hopefully my friend will be able to get that one without problems.

It sounds like one of those things where if you don't have a GPS, only look for those which have images that don't show a huge forest.

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WolfHawk
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Um, I have a question. Did we decide the TSR forum is in-game? If so, then this post and a few others referencing the wiki disturb me (boldface type mine):
Quote:
Wiki for Wendy Skinery Case
the sky remains Forum Index -> Case one: Wendy Skinery

Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:03 am
Post subject: Wiki for Wendy Skinery Case
To get to the wiki for the Wendy Skinery case, go to http://theskyremains.wikidot.com/

This website contains information on the game including solutions and methods for getting to the solutions yourself.

Methods for reaching the solutions are still in process. Some of them are there, but more information will be added as quickly as possible.

and this one:
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Is there any way to replay the game up to this point?

the sky remains Forum Index -> General chit-chat
Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:17 am
Post subject: Is there any way to replay the game up to this point?
I know that we aren't allowed to play as more than one person according to the Terms of Service, but is there any way to go back to the beginning of the puzzles and work them again? There are some puzzles I'd like to try over again. In particular, I didn't notice the scanning button for the ICE artifact, and I wanted to see how it worked.

I'm not trying to offend anyone, but if the forum IS in-game then no reference should be made to "game" at all.
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Russell
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Nah its not really in game imho, the main purpose of the forum is what its used for after this game, i.e people using it for games like this or geocaching etc. There havent been any IG posts in there so...

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WolfHawk wrote:
Um, I have a question. Did we decide the TSR forum is in-game? If so, then this post and a few others referencing the wiki disturb me (boldface type mine):
Quote:
Wiki for Wendy Skinery Case
the sky remains Forum Index -> Case one: Wendy Skinery

Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:03 am
Post subject: Wiki for Wendy Skinery Case
To get to the wiki for the Wendy Skinery case, go to http://theskyremains.wikidot.com/

This website contains information on the game including solutions and methods for getting to the solutions yourself.

Methods for reaching the solutions are still in process. Some of them are there, but more information will be added as quickly as possible.

and this one:
Quote:
Is there any way to replay the game up to this point?

the sky remains Forum Index -> General chit-chat
Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:17 am
Post subject: Is there any way to replay the game up to this point?
I know that we aren't allowed to play as more than one person according to the Terms of Service, but is there any way to go back to the beginning of the puzzles and work them again? There are some puzzles I'd like to try over again. In particular, I didn't notice the scanning button for the ICE artifact, and I wanted to see how it worked.

I'm not trying to offend anyone, but if the forum IS in-game then no reference should be made to "game" at all.


Color me not offended. Thank you, though, for being careful of my feelings by saying you didn't wish to offend and also by not revealing that I was the guilty party. You never know how something is going to come out when you can't hear the tone of voice the writer has in their head. Having seen how you have addressed me and other players already, I doubt that anything except intentional slandering would make me think you wished to offend, anyway.

Fortunately, last night, I came across the definitive answer to the question of whether the forums are in-game in the Terms of Service. (You can read below to see why I was looking at it, if you are interested.) Here is the relevant bit of the Terms of Service.

Quote:
6. Monitoring

6.1 We have no intention of monitoring your use of the Site or any Player Content posted by you on or through the Site.


So judging from that, I personally am assuming that the forums are NOT in-game. But I am not telling you that you have to believe that--I don't want to get into any trouble if I happen to be wrong. Wink

The interesting thing about your question, WolfHawk, is that I debated myself on whether I should post these items because the forums might be considered in-game. But since someone else had already made a reference to unfiction on the site and hadn't gotten bashed for it, I went ahead and did it. (In another game, I actually did get a message from an IG character pointing out that I shouldn't have been posting such stuff in the game--that was how I figured out that the private messaging there WAS in-game, and I was able to warn others that those messages sent through the game were being monitored. Which is why I tend to read things like Terms of Service notices.)

It took me a while to find it the TOS--I'm consequently going to add a post to the forum that gives a link to the terms of service, as you can only get to it by going back to the old Sky Remains home page by clicking on the META link on the new sign-in page, which I doubt any newbies to the game are going to do.

The funny thing is, one of the posts WolfHawk quoted is entirely illogical and might even include a paradox, though I'm too tired right now to be able to tell. The post about being able to replay the game is intended to be read by the PMs. Now, if they WERE monitoring the boards, then the boards would be IG and I should NOT have posted that message. But since the forums are NOT in-game, they won't--at least officially--read the post because they've already told us that they don't monitor them.

I will be rereading the TOS periodically (the TOS actually holds you responsible for doing that). I intend to do it so that it is always fresh in my mind so that I don't violate it.

I was going to offer to be a TOS guru, but I realized that this might in some way make me liable if someone asked me a question and I answered it and I happened to be wrong. I will probably quote bits of it, but I am right now stating that I won't be liable if I make a mistake. Not trying to offend, just covering my butt. So if I quote something, you might want to check the TOS yourself and make sure I didn't miss anything when I copy and paste.

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Pied Piper
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I've put up a reference sticky for The Sky Remains

I've put up a reference sticky post for websites and information for new players containing links to game websites. You can look for it under the general "CF with Potential" heading, and there you will see it in all of its glory, sticking way up at the top of the page.

Please take a look and let me know if you think anything more should be on there. And if I spoilered anything, let me know so that I can unspoiler it. I almost forgot not to include the URL to Wendy's site since you have to solve puzzles to get to it. I'm hoping that I haven't done anything else like that.

Thank you all. If possible, I would like to keep just the one post there and put information in it, because it has been hard for me when I was trying to get caught up on a game when I had to read several posts to find out where things were. If something is missing, let's just add it to the one post, if you don't mind.

Also, I'm not sure how it is going to go over that I've made a sticky in this section and none of the other games have. I figured I'd go ahead and do it, and then if they want it unstickied, they'll tell me. I think I did ask about stickies, but didn't get a reply. I may just be thinking about a comment I made about stickies in another post, though. So don't be surprised if that sticky kind of "falls down" to where the rest of our game is.

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natas
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I've stickied stuff before and have had it removed because the mods thought it didn't deserve a sticky. No big deal. If they do we'll just have to remember to keep your post updated and link new players there.

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setters393
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better late than never...

phew - I know, I know, I'm really late to this but at least I got here eventually!

I've just picked up my ipaq so will be catching up over the next couple of days hopefully. I can't believe I missed russell & carmenmiranda coming to bristol this weekend, if only I'd got my arse in gear sooner.

Anyway, just as an aside as I only had a really short conversation with Jo this afternoon, I thought I'd mention I work in the Gloucester area & am there almost every day....

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