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who thinks beth survives but rob doesn't?
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OliMango
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TP516 wrote:
she will be in the sequel, of course.

I think it's funny how much people obsessed over who died and who lived when the movie first came but then Reeves said (at least twice) on the DVD that they decided it didn't matter who lived. wasn't about that.

he could be playing it down though...

Lily and Beth were SO MUCH hotter than Marlena. are you crazy?


How can you be so sure Lily will be in the sequel?

In fact, I'll be very surprised if she is.
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 		Beth can't survive without Rob, no one can, he's like your main dude. Wink Rob must live!

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 		See, the film ended in a way that those who audience members who don't follow the ARG can be given a conclusion: They die, and the camera stops recording. For me, the alternate endings are not necessarily ALTERNATE... let me explain.

I'm going to guess that these new endings are meant to leave the story open enough that both sequel and ARG opportunities are still alive. Not only that, but it answers the question of how they found the camera in the first place.

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McPhearson wrote:
See, the film ended in a way that those who audience members who don't follow the ARG can be given a conclusion: They die, and the camera stops recording. For me, the alternate endings are not necessarily ALTERNATE... let me explain.

I'm going to guess that these new endings are meant to leave the story open enough that both sequel and ARG opportunities are still alive. Not only that, but it answers the question of how they found the camera in the first place.

Dude, really...
Alternate endings were not made after the fact for our benefit. The production time and shooting would be a total waste on a film with such a tight budget anyway. They were shot as alternatives to be chosen from when the film hit the editing stage. Some just die in the cutting room. That's how alternate endings happen. Aside from that fact, having more than one version of the plot line in a franchise be considered canon is a sure way to hose your franchise into a total trainwreck. Franchises rarely if ever recover from an attempt to 'reset' them. When a franchise is just beginning, you don't create such fragmentation right from the start, it doesn't make sense artistically or from a marketing standpoint. It's a recipe for failure.

It's times like this I wish they'd have just BURNED the footage of alternate scenes.
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nooneimportant77 wrote:

marlana-could have had the whole stomach thing, but hell maybe it wasn't as bad as it looked considering we never really saw it (watching that scene now, so cool haha)


If you look towards the bottm-right of Marlena as/after she explodes, you can see part of her ribcage. (It goes by fast.)

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Euchre wrote:
McPhearson wrote:
See, the film ended in a way that those who audience members who don't follow the ARG can be given a conclusion: They die, and the camera stops recording. For me, the alternate endings are not necessarily ALTERNATE... let me explain.

I'm going to guess that these new endings are meant to leave the story open enough that both sequel and ARG opportunities are still alive. Not only that, but it answers the question of how they found the camera in the first place.

Dude, really...
Alternate endings were not made after the fact for our benefit. The production time and shooting would be a total waste on a film with such a tight budget anyway. They were shot as alternatives to be chosen from when the film hit the editing stage. Some just die in the cutting room. That's how alternate endings happen. Aside from that fact, having more than one version of the plot line in a franchise be considered canon is a sure way to hose your franchise into a total trainwreck. Franchises rarely if ever recover from an attempt to 'reset' them. When a franchise is just beginning, you don't create such fragmentation right from the start, it doesn't make sense artistically or from a marketing standpoint. It's a recipe for failure.

It's times like this I wish they'd have just BURNED the footage of alternate scenes.


No dude, really...

I'm a bit familiar with shooting schedules and film production. I also understand that alternate endings are meant to be chosen from during the editing post-production process. I understand.

My point in my last post was simply that, unlike most films, the events in the alternate endings may have STILL HAPPENED in the world of "Cloverfield," but we moviegoers in the theater just didn't see it. That was my point: the film was constructed as a stand-alone; however, for those who do investigation (as we do), or those who played the whisper at the end of the credits backwards, there are certain clues to let us know what took place after the credits rolled.

In short, my main point is that though these alternate endings were not used in the final product, I do believe that they will play a part if and/or when a sequel is created.

That's all I was saying.

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McPhearson wrote:
Euchre wrote:
McPhearson wrote:
See, the film ended in a way that those who audience members who don't follow the ARG can be given a conclusion: They die, and the camera stops recording. For me, the alternate endings are not necessarily ALTERNATE... let me explain.

I'm going to guess that these new endings are meant to leave the story open enough that both sequel and ARG opportunities are still alive. Not only that, but it answers the question of how they found the camera in the first place.

Dude, really...
Alternate endings were not made after the fact for our benefit. The production time and shooting would be a total waste on a film with such a tight budget anyway. They were shot as alternatives to be chosen from when the film hit the editing stage. Some just die in the cutting room. That's how alternate endings happen. Aside from that fact, having more than one version of the plot line in a franchise be considered canon is a sure way to hose your franchise into a total trainwreck. Franchises rarely if ever recover from an attempt to 'reset' them. When a franchise is just beginning, you don't create such fragmentation right from the start, it doesn't make sense artistically or from a marketing standpoint. It's a recipe for failure.

It's times like this I wish they'd have just BURNED the footage of alternate scenes.


No dude, really...

I'm a bit familiar with shooting schedules and film production. I also understand that alternate endings are meant to be chosen from during the editing post-production process. I understand.

My point in my last post was simply that, unlike most films, the events in the alternate endings may have STILL HAPPENED in the world of "Cloverfield," but we moviegoers in the theater just didn't see it. That was my point: the film was constructed as a stand-alone; however, for those who do investigation (as we do), or those who played the whisper at the end of the credits backwards, there are certain clues to let us know what took place after the credits rolled.

In short, my main point is that though these alternate endings were not used in the final product, I do believe that they will play a part if and/or when a sequel is created.

That's all I was saying.


absolutely correct, i bleev that these endings arent just alternate endings, i think thay most certainly are i fact begininngs, dont ya think

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What about the fact that when you go to the movie homepage that it will start playing the end of the movie, but with the alternate ending, its the same as the one posted here. Is it or isn't it proof that at lest Beth survived?

Because I have been going to the cloverfieldmovie.com site just about everyday now scratching my head, trying to figure out why would they put the end of the movie on the movie's homepage. I have seen that its slightly different, but is it different for the sake of being different, or the fact of a clue as to the true nature of the characters?


And is this the right place to post this?

Also if it was brought up already that the website changes over like that, I am sorry. I looked over this thread to see if it was brought up, but I didn't read it all, just glanced and didn't see anything. So this may be a trout.

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 		That was Rob's voice at the end of the movie which said "It's still alive", therefore Rob is still alive.

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 		Sorry, but Rob (Michael Stahl-David) did not speak that line. Matt Reeves did.
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 		If beth survives I might as well go and eat a hat. If she did survive and Rob didn't then that means all that going and rescuing her was pretty much for nothing. Yes I realise that in heindsight we can only say that because at the time it must have seemed like the heroic and loveable thing to do but after Marlena died, I decided that I hate beth (she still hot though Razz) and yes I do realise that Marlena had the choice to go and save herself.

Also if the alternate ending was a direct continuation into the sequel (I doubt but stranger things could have happened) what would happen, Beth would be taken to the hospital were she would sit with coffee and bandages saying how much she misses everyone and is her family ok. The only cool thing I could think of would be a flashback with MGP knocking her building over Smile

I don't know if I could deal with a full cinematic 30-shot-of-MGP movie, I think I was more a fan of the style and performance then MGP him/her self.

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