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 		NEW: http://www.klepsydra.net/
http://www.clepsidra.com/

(see Interaction email from Mayor)

Mentioned in chat this may not be the correct spelling...dunno but have to go to bed.

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frangraves
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 		Re: New Site
cemgate2002 wrote:
http://www.clepsidra.com/

(see Interaction email from Mayor)

Mentioned in chat this may not be the correct spelling...dunno but have to go to bed.


The only Clepsydra that I know of is correctly spelled this way and it means "water clock". The word kleptomania comes from this word. Don't know if that helps anyone but thought I'd throw it out there Question
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 		excuse prior post
well heck I just went to the site & it Tells you it means water clock Embarassed
see if I jump the gun again Confused
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 		This site is not in-game.
It appears to be a web designer in Barcelona Spain.

The real site we were looking for is Klepsydra.net. Diandra is posting the information.
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 		IMPORTANT!
This site is not in game.

The actual in-game site is www.klepsydra.net.

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 		Klepsydra
interesting that the spelling used is the "real" (vs. the americanized) spelling of the word Smile Thanks for the heads up on the correct site.

(C earlier post re: kleptomania and waterclock). Almost as interesting.... the sands in the hour glasses will never ever run out .....
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 		Another thought
I believe in was in Athenian times that the cistern/water clock evolved and then later during the Greek dominance period the word begin to be used for [water] thief thus evolving into Kleptomania ... I was reminded of the cistern system because of the hour glass (es) on the site. I do not think this has relevance but for some reason my "view source" on all the CTW sites doesn't work so that leaves me posting probably irrelvant data...
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AbuAmaal
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 		Spec: Klepsydra/Hour Glass/Time
Klepsydra should be taken as "hourglass" here.

Just as there is a strong "herb" theme (starting with James Stills) woven into the story, there seems to be a time theme scattered about. (These might intersect in "thyme", which occurs as a pun in one of the herbal detective stories recently acquired by the library, namely "Indigo Dying," which is itself a pun.)

I'll make a few points about this.

1. Klepsydra mental institution takes as its motto "It's never too late"; the hourglass image on the page suggests the opposite.

2. We know that the town name "Aglaura" comes from Calvino's "Invisible Cities", which was recently read in Italian by the local book club. That book contains a number of references to hourglasses, which in the original Italian is "clessidra", the exact equivalent of clepsydra/klepsydra. One of Calvino's references is to the hourglass as a symbol of the irreversibility of time. See the file below for the full quotation. In magical contexts, it sometimes happens that reversing an hourglass has a powerful effect on time.


3. Dale's first (but unofficial) wish in his diary is to be able to reverse time. The brothers are in the habit of reminding him that he cannot.

4. "Planting time" refers at least to the seeds and to the possibility
of "planting" Dale (or, possibly, Digitalis). A third interestingly far-fetched meaning would be that one may plant time itself.

5. Bruno Schulz' novel "Sanatorium pod Klepsydra" (Hourglass Sanatorium) and the movie derived from it apparently make
use of some similar theme (childhood memories), but I have
no detailed information on this and it does not appear explicitly
in CTW, apart from the fact that we apparently do have an Hourglass Sanatorium on our hands. (Which by the way is not actually in Princeton, but rather to the north, apparently having taken over some or all of the old golf course on Bunker Hill Road, which is suitably secluded, apart from the housing development just opposite. I'm a bit surprised its staff claims to work "in Princeton" as they are a few towns away.)

6. There is a strong and pointed time discrepancy in the key sequence of events.

7. The "Hollow Needle" (possibly a reference to the Arsene
Lupin story of the hidden treasure of that name) deals in clocks and watches. Mrs. Willingham assures me however that she has nothing particularly out of the ordinary in that line.


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Linguistic note (as posted above):
Klepsydra: Greek, from klept- (kleptein) + hydros.
English clepsydra, Italian clessidra (the Italian covers both sand and water versions).
The first part means "steal" and the second "water".
The meaning is "water-clock", the equivalent of an hourglass with
water in place of sand, dripping through a very small hole.
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