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Rogi Ocnorb
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PM System
Outbox vs: Sent

It's my understanding that a message stays in my Outbox till the recipient checks their Inbox at which time it moves to my Sent folder.
Is that correct?

I'm asking as I sent Jane M. a PM about The Go Game 3 weeks ago and it's still in my Outbox. Surely with FTLR running, she must've checked her PMs during that period.

Is it still in my Outbox because she hasn't opened it or because she hasn't looked at her Inbox?
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I think to have it move to the sentbox, the recipient has to actually open the message? But like, don't ask me. I'm totally clueless about any and all forum stuff.

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Re: PM System
Outbox vs: Sent

Rogi Ocnorb wrote:
It's my understanding that a message stays in my Outbox till the recipient checks their Inbox at which time it moves to my Sent folder.
Is that correct?


Yep. I would guess that Jane is probably keeping an eye on the forums but not necessarily logging in to do so. You might try emailing her through her website instead?
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Rogi Ocnorb
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Heh.
Simply not logging in didn't even cross my mind. So, I get one, too, Scrappy. Dunce

But now, I have another question...
Deleting something from my Outbox means it will never be received by the recipient. Correct?

I had some stuff in there that was from June of last year.
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Rogi Ocnorb wrote:
Deleting something from my Outbox means it will never be received by the recipient. Correct?


Correct indeed.

It's the reason we get questions by puzzled forum users every once in a while: if you have e-mail alerts set to warn you when you recieve a PM, and by the time you go and look for it, you find an empty inbox, that's because the sender deleted the message before you had a chance reading it.
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Euchre
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If people have email notifications of private messages, does it ever in some way copy the message itself to the email? If you have your settings to pop up a new window on new private messages, does it ever show you some sort of preview of the message?
I ask these things because I've noticed that on many forums, when a mod sends someone a 'cool it' message they never seem to read it - but many never seem to appear again, or at least it remains the only message unread and they change their behavior. It's that or when I moderate on forums, my messaging is effectively telepathic. Then again, I've heard about the same effect from other mods...
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Euchre wrote:
If people have email notifications of private messages, does it ever in some way copy the message itself to the email? If you have your settings to pop up a new window on new private messages, does it ever show you some sort of preview of the message?

No. Well, at least not on this board (or any other boards that I've been on - there might be exceptions though). The notification just says you have a message, not what it is.
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Rogi Ocnorb
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People (for the most part) know when they're pushing limits in forums.
Getting a PM from a Mod when you haven't initiated the contact, probably means you've done something wrong.
Not actually opening it to see reinforces my belief that, increasingly, people don't like to be held accountable for their actions. In their mind, if they don't read it, they can continue to poop all over everything.
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Rogi Ocnorb wrote:
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Who reads sigs? Razz

But yeah, the other thing is that a mod will sometimes post a little friendly warning in the thread in question. So there's no need to open the PM. How these people live with "1 unread message" all the time I don't know!

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Euchre
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Agent Lex wrote:
How these people live with "1 unread message" all the time I don't know!

They don't need to, IF they'd just delete the message from their Inbox by putting a check by it then clicking the delete button. I wonder though, could that lead to the message staying in the Outbox forever for the sender? Perhaps that could explain the whole confusion here.

Deleting it instead of reading it might help them try to dodge the responsibility for what they've done, if they know they are being PMed by a mod about obvious problems.

ETA: Rogi Ocnorb now that we've got our ducks in a row, post the results. Wink
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Rogi Ocnorb
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It 's confirmed that the simple act of going to your Inbox, moves the email from the sender's Outbox to their Sentbox. I sent Euchre a few messages and regardless of how he handled them, they all disappeared from my Outbox.
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