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[MANGA] Kishin - Part 4
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IncidentCloverfield
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HAHA! Kishin' cops a feel... Check it:
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I get the feeling when all is said and done, yes, they hit clover in the eye with a rocket launcher, and although the humans think that's what made him turn around, Clover was like, "Okay, I got my pod. Later humans." The rocket gave them a false sense of security. They think they can defeat Clover next time. Until next time.....

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What i have gathered

Here is all i have gathered from Kishin 4:
When Clovers tentacles bite Kishin they take out the pod that controls Clover and swallows it.
After that Clover goes back to the ocean and starts to disentegrate and you can see several what appears to be eggs or capsules and you can see Clover hug on to one of them like he knows his lil brother or sister is in there and he will be their first meal when they are welcomed into the world or he hugs onto it because its the only thing that reminds him of safety. and 1 last thing when Clover goes into the water you can see a man on a piece of wood and i dont remember Kishin falling into the water.

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So we have a hint of what the reproductive cycle is like for MGP - if the manga is meant to be canon instead of in-universe fiction based on the Cloverfield monster incident. I think that's the key thing we don't know to sort out the context here.

The sort of cycle represented here reminds me a little of the reproductive cycle of the sandworms of Dune, where one worm eats the other to obtain the gametes to generate the zygote. What you have to ask is what generates the pods. If MGP's species is anything like some others we know, one gender is considerably larger than the other. Something else that often happens with such massive gender differences is that the gamete donor is often killed and eaten by the egg layer or gestater. In our conventional terms that means the monster in the Kishin manga is a female, but looks just like our Cloverfield incident monster.

For all you thinking of 'multiple monsters', considering things thus far, is it possible there's only ever one full grown MGP at a time? Do the drones of the species only arise when reproduction is needed?
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Poppin wrote:
FUCKING JJ ABRAMS!


Cloverfield means something after all...

The monsters grow in a field, similar to clovers. Thus, the name Cloverfield was born...

That cheeky little bastard...

GG Mr. Abrams, GG.


No dude. Ive never seen Clovers Grow attached to one Giant Vein. Ive also never seen Clovers that look like nutsacks, attached to one Giant Vein, cept for in my pants, n thats no Clover buddy, i promise Wink
I just wanna see what that freakin vein is attached to. But no dude, once again i just gotta say it. Not bein rude or nothin, but Cloverfield is still the title of this movie just out of laziness. Its a streetname, kinda, n thats it. It kinda reminds me more of like, branches on a tree, the Vein bein the Tree Trunk, and the MGPods bein the branches? Or maybe like Grapes. YEAH, thats WAY better. Grapes for sure..

Euchre wrote:
So we have a hint of what the reproductive cycle is like for MGP - if the manga is meant to be canon instead of in-universe fiction based on the Cloverfield monster incident. I think that's the key thing we don't know to sort out the context here.

The sort of cycle represented here reminds me a little of the reproductive cycle of the sandworms of Dune, where one worm eats the other to obtain the gametes to generate the zygote. What you have to ask is what generates the pods. If MGP's species is anything like some others we know, one gender is considerably larger than the other. Something else that often happens with such massive gender differences is that the gamete donor is often killed and eaten by the egg layer or gestater. In our conventional terms that means the monster in the Kishin manga is a female, but looks just like our Cloverfield incident monster.

For all you thinking of 'multiple monsters', considering things thus far, is it possible there's only ever one full grown MGP at a time? Do the drones of the species only arise when reproduction is needed?


Dude, first, Dune References are MUCH appreciated -- I tried snorting the spice once, n my nose was freakin clogged for a week! Wink , second, i like that theory that there is only one full grown Clover at a time, but then again, With our NYC Clover just being a baby, wouldn't that mean hes not a full-grown?? Would it then be plauseable to say that maybe Tagruato woke NYC Clover up prematurely, or somethin along those lines? I still wanna cling to the thought that Tagruato is behind ALL of this, and every single freakin one of those "drilling stations" are set up to harbour at LEAST one monster, if not an entire Giant Nutsack Colonie of MGPods. I mean, with the Chuai station, the way that it was built with the big ass .50 caliber guns on turrets pointed downward into the ocean kinda speaks volumes to me. I wanna see pics of the other stations to find out if all of them are similarly made. If so, that would make my theory a hell of alot more plauseable, n just make me one happy smilin EmmerEffer in general, lol.

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This quite an interesting installment, and I see more than enough that intrigus e me to analyze the scenes carefully, bit for bit. Here's something I don't fully understand; The creature is supposedly invulnerable to conventional weaponry, yet upon being struck in the eye with a shoulder-launched missile, it clearly bears a large scar on the impact point. Is this because the 'God's Vestige' weakened the monster's defensive capabilities, or was the weapon perhaps an advanced missile designed to damage and later break apart the creature, as it did in the water?

Another point of interest is that the monster seems to simply erode and even bloat while it dies and submerges; Was this the God's Vestige as well, or a side-effect of the missile it was hit with, possibly biological warfare?

There are a number of other aspects I am missing with these two, but they seem to stand out more peculiarly than the rest. If someone could fully translate the text, it would certainly seem more obvious as to what is happening here, though we will have to wait a while before the translation. I speak and read influent Japanese to some extent, but even with a few years of tutoring under my belt, I can scarcely make out a word or two here and there, leaving me confounded in the end.

Would anyone happen to know when this, along with the rest of the Kishin series, will be available for purchase in the U.S?

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Vince S. wrote:
This quite an interesting installment, and I see more than enough that intrigus e me to analyze the scenes carefully, bit for bit. Here's something I don't fully understand; The creature is supposedly invulnerable to conventional weaponry, yet upon being struck in the eye with a shoulder-launched missile, it clearly bears a large scar on the impact point. Is this because the 'God's Vestige' weakened the monster's defensive capabilities, or was the weapon perhaps an advanced missile designed to damage and later break apart the creature, as it did in the water?

Another point of interest is that the monster seems to simply erode and even bloat while it dies and submerges; Was this the God's Vestige as well, or a side-effect of the missile it was hit with, possibly biological warfare?

There are a number of other aspects I am missing with these two, but they seem to stand out more peculiarly than the rest. If someone could fully translate the text, it would certainly seem more obvious as to what is happening here, though we will have to wait a while before the translation. I speak and read influent Japanese to some extent, but even with a few years of tutoring under my belt, I can scarcely make out a word or two here and there, leaving me confounded in the end.

Would anyone happen to know when this, along with the rest of the Kishin series, will be available for purchase in the U.S?

--Vince S.


N sorry to keep goin, but im excited as shit about this. What if Clovey was changin his biological properties, instead of dying? U know what i mean? kinda like, hes a changeling or something. It looks like he would have to change his biological makeup in order to absorb himself into the Giant Nutsacks. Least in my opinion thats what it looks like. I mean, right before he absorbs, he kinda looks like a droopy mushy spongey kinda wierd mess. So maybe THATS whats up, eh?

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I don't support the two monster theories, but seeing the last few panels makes me think the monster in Kishin is the parent of the one in the movie. I feel that those big sacs at the end are eggs for other monsters.

This was a pretty confusing ending. Raised much more questions than it answered. Guess we'll have to wait for the translation to see if anything is answered. But I did like that we were finally able to see the feeding tubes in action.

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INTERNET wrote:
why the hell did he cut his hair..


I read a very long time ago in a manga somewhere that in the Japanese culture it is custom to cut your hair as a form of an apology. Hence, the significance of Kishin cutting his hair and reverting back to saneness. Wink

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Kishin sure is small, almost invisible on top of Clover's head in some of those images. Are we sure there wasn't someone somewhere, really hard to see person riding on top of Clover's head in the movie?

The person doesn't have to be on him the whole time. It could be someone with blonde hair as the movie uses a yellow tone throughout most of it, easier to hide the character in, perhaps.

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Vince S. wrote:
This quite an interesting installment, and I see more than enough that intrigus e me to analyze the scenes carefully, bit for bit. Here's something I don't fully understand; The creature is supposedly invulnerable to conventional weaponry, yet upon being struck in the eye with a shoulder-launched missile, it clearly bears a large scar on the impact point. Is this because the 'God's Vestige' weakened the monster's defensive capabilities, or was the weapon perhaps an advanced missile designed to damage and later break apart the creature, as it did in the water?

Another point of interest is that the monster seems to simply erode and even bloat while it dies and submerges; Was this the God's Vestige as well, or a side-effect of the missile it was hit with, possibly biological warfare?

There are a number of other aspects I am missing with these two, but they seem to stand out more peculiarly than the rest. If someone could fully translate the text, it would certainly seem more obvious as to what is happening here, though we will have to wait a while before the translation. I speak and read influent Japanese to some extent, but even with a few years of tutoring under my belt, I can scarcely make out a word or two here and there, leaving me confounded in the end.

Would anyone happen to know when this, along with the rest of the Kishin series, will be available for purchase in the U.S?

--Vince S.


i would honestly say, and i'm not trying to be a smartass: becos it got shot in the friggin EYE. the RPG's and tankshell and random bombs didn't really incapacitate the monster, just injured it. but yeah. even if you're 350ft tall and nigh-invulnerable, if you get shot in the eyeball with a rocket, you'll be hurt.

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Did anyone else notice that Clover didn't have horns in this installment?

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porrphyrhia wrote:
Vince S. wrote:
This quite an interesting installment, and I see more than enough that intrigus e me to analyze the scenes carefully, bit for bit. Here's something I don't fully understand; The creature is supposedly invulnerable to conventional weaponry, yet upon being struck in the eye with a shoulder-launched missile, it clearly bears a large scar on the impact point. Is this because the 'God's Vestige' weakened the monster's defensive capabilities, or was the weapon perhaps an advanced missile designed to damage and later break apart the creature, as it did in the water?

Another point of interest is that the monster seems to simply erode and even bloat while it dies and submerges; Was this the God's Vestige as well, or a side-effect of the missile it was hit with, possibly biological warfare?

There are a number of other aspects I am missing with these two, but they seem to stand out more peculiarly than the rest. If someone could fully translate the text, it would certainly seem more obvious as to what is happening here, though we will have to wait a while before the translation. I speak and read influent Japanese to some extent, but even with a few years of tutoring under my belt, I can scarcely make out a word or two here and there, leaving me confounded in the end.

Would anyone happen to know when this, along with the rest of the Kishin series, will be available for purchase in the U.S?

--Vince S.


i would honestly say, and i'm not trying to be a smartass: becos it got shot in the friggin EYE. the RPG's and tankshell and random bombs didn't really incapacitate the monster, just injured it. but yeah. even if you're 350ft tall and nigh-invulnerable, if you get shot in the eyeball with a rocket, you'll be hurt.
What I was pointing out is that it had a scar on its hide around the eye. The eye would clearly have been damaged, I realize this, but if you observe closely, the creature's skin is also wounded.

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