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catherwood
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alexbutterfield wrote:
Pretty impressed with Catherwood's logic.
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I think Catherwood has emailed the solve to RK, so I guess we'll see. fingers crossed. In the meantime I guess I'll keep thinking.

Well, thank you for that vote of confidence, but i'm afraid logic also told me that COAL (in order, on a diagonal) was a better answer than LAND (out of order) on the last puzzle, so obviously I do not think the way the PMs do.

And no, I have not emailed anything. I'm notorious for avoiding direct character interaction. I lurk and pitch in on occasional puzzles, but I am not following the story in this ARG. Feel free to take my suggestions and run with them. (It's possible someone in chat last night did try YSER but I cannot be certain.)

p.s., I do not capitalize my nick, it's lowercase 'c' please.

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enaxor
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catherwood wrote:

Well, thank you for that vote of confidence, but i'm afraid logic also told me that COAL (in order, on a diagonal) was a better answer than LAND (out of order) on the last puzzle, so obviously I do not think the way the PMs do.


I agree COAL made sense too, but LAND whether out of order or not, was obtained by using the letters in the fourth position. RK was hitting us over the head with fours in his blog. The posting date was changed to 04/04/04 @ 4:44. I just took the hint and ran with it.
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konamouse
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 		the beauty of the ARG community - most solves in a game like this (with PMs who are sometimes thinking outside the box) require intuitive leaps of logic.

we need that kind of thinking. never apologize for brainstorming. Wink
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Sylvia
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 		speaking of brainstorming, can we make something out of this:

A Buddhist cries | Yesterday
while Duke Ellington is | 1, 365
on the side of the river | lost innocence

OR

A Buddhist cries | Yesterday
while Duke Ellington is | 1
on the side of the river | 365 lost innocence

For maybe something like these:

Chants| May 17
Edward ?? | 1900 or 1901
Bank | ??????? Adult

The way I got the 1900/1901 is by assuming the 1 is for 1-year-old and 1,365 is for 2-year-old. Since Duke Ellington was born April 29, 1899 he would have been 1-year-old May 17, 1900 and 2-years-old May 17, 1901.

On May 17, 1901 - The stock market crashes for the first time. This is also the 6th worst crash.

Chants| May 17
Edward ?? | one year lost
Bank / Shore | not knowing / no sense / ignorance / ignorant


Chants / Ohm /rants | May 17
Nobel ?? | one year lost
Bank / Shore | not knowing / no sense / ignorance / ignorant

PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:24 pm
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celina63
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 		In the name of 'brainstorming', I found the following reference in relation to "crying Buddhists" - they seem to cry alot. Smile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsara_(Buddhism)

Quote:
"Samsāra, the Sanskrit and Pāli term for "continuous movement" or "continuous flowing" refers in Buddhism to the concept of a cycle of birth (jāti) and consequent decay and death (jarāmarana), in which all beings in the universe participate and which can only be escaped through enlightenment. Samsāra is associated with suffering and is generally considered the antithesis of nirvāna or nibbāna."


If we assume "loss of innocence" to be equivalent to "enlightenment", this makes some sense. However, I see nothing to tie this in with Duke Ellington...
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danteIL
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 		While we're all brainstorming Smile

This may or not be a Yahoo mail thing, but when I view source on the message from RK, it looks like this:

Code:
<span>A Buddhist cries, while Duke Ellington is on the side
 of the river.<span>  Yester</span>day, 1,365 lost innocence.</span>


If this is genuine, it might be further evidence that "Yester" is a separate unit from "day".

Furthermore, it looks like "day, 1, 365" could be a meaningful unit -- as in 365 days in a year??

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OwnD
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A Buddhist cries, while Duke Ellington is on the side of the river. Yesterday, 1,365 lost innocence.


Since we're all brainstorming...

I did a bit of googling and saw that, in Myanmar, doctors had been setting up clinics in local Buddhist temples. (Worst cyclone in the country's history just struck, for those of you who didn't know - big international debate since Myanmar refuses to allow foreign aid, and won't do anything to help the citizens.)

Duke Ellington also made a song called "Ol' Man River"

As for Yesterday, 1,365 lost innocence, I don't know.

And that's about all I could think of at the moment :S
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AUZ505
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 		More brainstorming:

From http://www.dictionary.net/yester:
Yester = Last; last past; next before; of or pertaining to yesterday.

"Yester Day" = last day (of the year?)
which somehow fits to 1 and 365

So it could be a reference to New Year/ New Year Eve

Also found this:
Quote:

THE RIVER (1970)
Choreographer: Alvin Ailey
(Restaged by Associate Artistic Director Masazumi Chaya)

A legendary collaboration between renowned choreographer Alvin Ailey and musical genius Duke Ellington, The River celebrates birth, life and rebirth. Ailey's choreographic allegory combines Modern dance, Classical ballet and Jazz to convey the mutability of water on its voyage to the sea — much like the journey of life. The River "shows Mr. Ailey at his inventive best," declared The New York Times.


where we have Duke Ellington, a river and the birth-rebirth idea of Buddism.

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chippy
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 		may help, thinking aloud..
yesterday 1, 365 = the day before 1 jan = new years eve. nye? or
combined with lost innocence. garden of eden? adam and eve?
bank of river = levee
?
DE on the side of the river. side of the river = r. so "der"
Wireless in irc notes that "jade" is the tears of the buddah.

jaderden ?
jadeleve?
jadernye ? (gets some russian looking hits)
ever jade?
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OwnD
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 		Go ahead....you know you wanted to say brainstorming... Very Happy

Aside from that, I'm still trying to figure out how everyone goes off on these seemingly random trains of thought, then one eventually works that seems to have nothing to do with the original clues O.O ARG

Still watching and learning ^^
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konamouse
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 		Reincarnation? The spirit of Dr Gough?
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OwnD
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 		Of course! Why didn't I think of that?!
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Sylvia
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 		Eliza from Twitter
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Work. Work. Work. That's all I ever freakin do. It wouldn't be so hard if others pulled their weight.


Some interesting tidbits:

The Great Blue Hole off the coast of Belize: http://ambergriscaye.com/pages/town/greatbluehole.html

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danteIL
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 		I know that this has been commented upon before, but visual evidence is always nice to see...

There is an "impossible" hourglass in the background of the original interview video with Dr. Gough -- the sands are suspended in the top part. (plus, there's some fishing gear -- is he a sportsman?)

Well, the same hourglass shows up again on Dr. Gough's desk in the new video.
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Sylvia
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 		I went to bed early tonight and I just got up to get something to drink and saw that Eliza had sent another Twitter at 1:17 am EDT (10:17 pm PDT)

Quote:
Still at the office. And needing a few stiff drinks asap.


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