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[TOTAL SPEC] GPS locations - WiFi hotspots?
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ToiletDuk
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[TOTAL SPEC] GPS locations - WiFi hotspots?

Could the GPS locations be WiFi hotspots? I noticed one in Palo Alto is near a data center that advertises WiFi Hotspots and that got me thinking that maybe that could be the way the Operator is trying to spread. Go mobile.

Just a thought, probably way off base, but wanted to air it anyway.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:08 pm
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I dunno, but it certainly is a cool idea. Very Happy
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jbd
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This is trout, but we probably need a thread for this just so someone can actually confirm or deny the wi-fi connection.

I'd say it's the best guess I've heard because

1. Since the spreading is done by the AI, it has to be done is such a way that the AI can feasibly spew out the information it just gave. Obscure pieces of text at the site can't really be included in that. (Although this *is* future technology, so perhaps it can do remote viewing of some sort. Still kind of dodgy.)

2. The most direct interpretation of the 'axons go hot' message is that this is where the AI is going to spread. In other words, to the 200 odd places referenced by homepages at the wi-fi locations

3. I just find all 'pattern' explanations dubious, in that the locations are too conviently positioned to be referring to somewhere other than their real locations.

4. [META] Game-wise, I can't imagine the puzzle not involving things at the sites themselves. This is a perfect way to require a coordinated effort.

5. [META] It'd be relatively conviently to manage 'switching on' all the locations at the correct time. In addition, it means we wouldn't need people there right when the change happens.

Incidentally, it's possible if the theory is correct, the websites to be 'infected' are floating out there right now.

Now, this could all become moot if the hotspots aren't there, then we'll just have to move on to something else.

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If there are 7 separate wifi hotspots in Sedalia, MO, I'll eat my cap. Rolling Eyes
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jbd
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floorneyne wrote:
If there are 7 separate wifi hotspots in Sedalia, MO, I'll eat my cap. Rolling Eyes


I ate my cap already with there being 7 locations on the list from there.

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TheHulk
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Guys, I'm noticing a trend with a possible connection. We have seen an abundance of video stores, places with books (and newspapers), and internet cafes(etc.). These ALL provide forms of media that could be utilized to inform the public about something. I say we look for other things as well such as radio stations, TV stations, etc. to see if this holds true for all of the coordinates.

In fact, I made a separate thread so it won't hijack this one.

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5540

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OK, so what happens to those of us who don't have anything that can access stuff at these wifi points?

I don't get how this is possibly useful, if we're not all bluetooth- or fancycellphone-enabled, or possessing a laptop with airport, as well as being able to be at a particular location at a particular time, give or take whichever timezone that the counter is reflecting.

I mean, I could possibly walk downstairs and hang out at the entrance to the Sears Tower right after work, but you know, it's not like I can loiter too long, and I seriously doubt any sort of geocaching will happen there - everything is barricaded and gated and restricted. I have to walk through a metal detector and have my bag scanned every time I enter the building.

There's a Starbucks in the lobby, but I am not sure they stay open very late once all the office drones have gone on home. I really should check and see if they have wifi and come back here and report just so's my contribution to this thread isn't entirely veering to the side of the topic ...

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krystyn, this is geared mostly to you... maybe you can find something to concur any of these theories:

(and I've mentioned these before, but I think it's worth noting here as well, since it's a similar topic... so I'm not tryin to spam this up here, just to be clear)

I went to the Bensenville, IL location (I was incorrect by assuming the first location was in Elmhurst. I was wrong, but it was only about 2 miles north of where I thought it was). The only thing that this geopoint could have been (THE ONLY THING ON THAT CORNER for at least 100-150 feet), was a ballroom/banquet hall called Manny's. There was also a Warning: Fiber Optic Cable Route Buried Below, Don't Dig before calling [an 800 number], as well as a bus stop on the corner, for a Pace bus route 332.

The only thing that makes sense to me with that are these three theories:

(1) the least likely idea, (in my mind, since it gets us nowhere) is that it has to do with the fiber optic cable line. Yes, that could be a reference to Melissa growing or something, but it's not really a puzzle then, is it. It's a landmark or a kodak moment, but nothing more.

(2) the bus stop. That could be relevant, but I have no idea. I rank this only slightly higher than the fiber optic cable thing, just cuz of the number 332, since that could be a clue somehow... (although could buses be involved?)

(3) Finally, I think the best idea, and the most puzzle-like, and more in line with the PMs history of strategies, is hiding a puzzle in a puzzle. (text we have to piece together hidden inside multiple images, anyone?) Could the names or words most associated with that place i.e. : "Manny's" "Sears Tower" or anything like that be the clue? A word puzzle we have to put together one or two words at a time? This seems to be how our PMs have worked in the past, right? So now it's interactive. It gives us a reason to physically GO to each site. It gets us involved. It also gives people not in the US the capability to play along by helping solve this massive (200+ words at least) puzzle. I think it's right up their alley.

The only thing, and I repeat ONLY thing I don't understand is why does SPDR say it. Why is this information (the GPS points) given in the SPDR "voice"... Discuss...
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krystyn
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I got nuthin'.

Smile

By the by, I went to the Starbucks earlier today, and they do have wifi there.

Link-o to the Info

I'm still just thinking that these 220 coordinates are just IP traces of several players - but that colors me baffled at the points which land in fields, or apparently human-less areas ...

It's like, we need more info. Maybe.

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nochturne
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I don't think Wifi or anything else exciting could be happening there; one of the spots is in the middle of an off ramp in macon, ga!

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Ben_Dover
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(3) Finally, I think the best idea, and the most puzzle-like, and more in line with the PMs history of strategies, is hiding a puzzle in a puzzle. (text we have to piece together hidden inside multiple images, anyone?) Could the names or words most associated with that place i.e. : "Manny's" "Sears Tower" or anything like that be the clue? A word puzzle we have to put together one or two words at a time? This seems to be how our PMs have worked in the past, right? So now it's interactive. It gives us a reason to physically GO to each site. It gets us involved. It also gives people not in the US the capability to play along by helping solve this massive (200+ words at least) puzzle. I think it's right up their alley.


I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but I'm really becoming convinced that it has nothing to do with the physical location, itself. I think that is a big, fat RED herring.

Also, in game that wouldn't really make sense, because there are too many things being reported that an AI trapped on the internet would not know about. If we are thinking in game then I believe we would have to limit our search to google searches about the site, and that's about as specific to the actual site as I think you can get.

I think that ultimately we are going to have to piece a message together using either the names of the towns, the zip codes, or the coordinates themselves.

What better way to throw someone off the track than to post a coded message in coordinate format? I'm starting to believe that the PMs have really taken us for a loop here.

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