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[HOLO][PUZZLE] Dr Gough's Phone message
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ineffabelle
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konamouse wrote:
Is it possible that this recording (hidden by Dr G and clues left for someone - like us - to find) was spliced up on purpose?
Maybe the first letters or words from each segment?


As I mentioned earlier, its more likely the last word of each segment... since the actual phrase "last word" is mentioned. If there's anything there at all....

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 		The first thing I thought of when I heard the recorded message from Dr. Gough was that we should look at the words/phrases that have been excised from the original. Its possible they make sentences.
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 		He's my re-arranged sentance. This was done from the phrases as I heard them on the recording.
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Well I never presume too much, I assume in science what is known to be possible or not possible, it's always subject to change, after all, scientific laws they're not really laws, they're not the last word. Science only describes, through their laws, nature, nature has the last word and nature's last word may often surprise us so I've made it a goal in my life to define those areas where people want something to happen but think that it is impossible, and then I try to figure out how to do it and just often enough i've managed to do precisely that. Up to this we point we've known that we can create real images of objects virtually, that you could see and for the last several years I've been focusing on holography and how we can extend the boundaries of holography


Doesn't seem to mean much though, unless the word is Holography.

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 		Again, only slightly different from previous, but here's my stab at a rearrange for what it's worth:

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well I never presume too much, I assume- /In science what is known to/ be possible or not possible, it's always subject to change, after all, scientific laws / they're not really laws, they're not the last word / science/ only describes, through their laws, nature- nature has / the last word/ nature's last word may often surprise us so I've made it a goal in my life/ to define those areas where people want something to happen but think that it is impossible, and then I try-/ to figure out how to do it and-/ just often enough / i've managed / to do precisely that/ for the last several years I've been focusing / on holography and how we / can extend the boundaries of holography/ up to this we point we've known that we could create real images of objects virtually, that you could see


The sound file seems to be from an earlier take of the video interview with Gough that didn't make it in to the final edit. Might it be reasonable to suggest that whoever is behind the camera has the rough footage? Do we have enough of AJ to recognise his voice?

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lostgunslinger2 wrote:
he might have meant, we've known we can make holograms, but haven't actually done so, afaik noones really made a working hologram, i could be wrong though.


Holographs vs. Volumetric Displays
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 		here's my version of the phone message, not that I've come to any conclusion other than trying to look at it from a different perspective.

Code:
01 impossible or not possible
02 is always subject to change after all scientific laws
[thud sound]
03 I never presume
04 too much
05 I assume
06 just often enough I've managed
07 the last word
08 and Nature's last word may often surprise us. So I've made it a goal of my life
09 that
10 and extend the boundaries of holography
11 up to this point we've known that we could create real images of objects
12 virtually (12 and 13 may be combined, it's hard to tell)
13 that you could see
14 only describes through their laws
15 Nature
16 Nature has them
17 to do precisely that
18 the last several years, I've been focusing
19 ?science? (unsure what is being said here)
20 on holography and how we
21 to find those areas where people want something to happen but think that it is impossible
22 and then I try
23 they're not really laws, they're not the last word
24 then figure out how to do it
25 and
26 in science what is known to

The original transcript from the interview with Dr. Gough. I changed a few words because I heard them differently.
Quote:
Interviewer: So, Dr. Gough, what new directions and techniques have you been working on?

Dr. Gough: Well for many years now, I've been working on trying to explore the boundaries in the holography field, first moving into holographic representation of objects three-dimensionally, making images that we all can see and interact with, and then try see how far we can extend that interaction beyond what we've done up to this point.

Interviewer: You've got a reputation for taking nothing at face value. Some say you don't respect your predecessors, traditions, or even laws.

Dr. Gough: Oh, I never presume anything. After all, anything in science that may be said to be impossible, might be possible. We have to further examine it and press the limits. People think that laws, scientific laws as they hear about them, are absolute things. They're not. They're merely descriptions. And, they represent current knowledge. [Loud snap in background] But current knowledge is always increasing as we continue our research, so I've made it a goal in my life to find those areas where people want to do things that are said to be impossible, and trying to do them. And often enough, I've managed to do just that.

[Video skips, perhaps a break or skipping over part of the interview]

Interviewer: Continuing our discussion with Dr. Gough, what are your guiding principles?

Dr. Gough: Integrity, and perseverance. Those are my core values. And of course, I also believe in the value of hard work.

Interviewer: Perseverance is fine, but what about balance, and work, life, family? Do you have time for these things?

Dr. Gough: I have excelled in science, and I've made that the focus of my life.

Interviewer: Dr. Gough, thank you so much for your time today.

Dr. Gough: Always a pleasure.


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 		Okay after listening and re-listening to the recording I've re-parsed the different segments and have come up with a re-ordering that makes sense to me:

Segments separated by slashes:
Quote:
/ be possible or not possible, it's always subject to change, after all, scientific laws /
/ well I never presume too much, I assume- /
/ just often enough i've managed /
/ the last word /
/ nature's last word may often surprise us so I've made it a goal in my life /
/ that /
/ can extend the boundaries of holography /
/ up to this we point we've known that we can create real images of objects, virtually, that you could see /
/ only describes, through their laws, nature. nature has- /
/ to do precisely that /
/ for the last several years I've been focusing /
/ science /
/ on holography and how we /
/ to find those areas where people want something to happen but think that it is impossible, and then I try- /
/ they're not really laws, they're not the last word /
/ to figure out how to do it and- /
/ in science what is known to- /


And this seems like a likely order:
Quote:

/ well I never presume too much, I assume- /
/ that /
/ in science what is known to- /
/ be possible or not possible, it's always subject to change, after all, scientific laws /
/ they're not really laws, they're not the last word /
/ science /
/ only describes, through their laws, nature. nature has- /
/ the last word /
/ nature's last word may often surprise us so I've made it a goal in my life /
/ to find those areas where people want something to happen but think that it is impossible, and then I try- /
/ to do precisely that /
/ just often enough i've managed /
/ to figure out how to do it and- /
/ for the last several years I've been focusing /
/ on holography and how we /
/ can extend the boundaries of holography /
/ up to this we point we've known that we can create real images of objects, virtually, that you could see /


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ineffabelle wrote:
As I mentioned earlier, its more likely the last word of each segment... since the actual phrase "last word" is mentioned. If there's anything there at all....


Code:
laws /
assume- /
managed /
word /
life /
that /
holography /
see /
has- /
that /
focusing /
science /
we /
try- /
word /
and- /
to- /

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 		using dantel's order, showing before and after positions (after,before)
Code:
1,2/ well I never presume too much, I assume- /
2,6/ that /
3,17/ in science what is known to- /
3,1/ be possible or not possible, it's always subject to change, after all, scientific laws /
4,15/ they're not really laws, they're not the last word /
5,12/ science /
6,9/ only describes, through their laws, nature. nature has- /
7,4/ the last word /
8,5/ nature's last word may often surprise us so I've made it a goal in my life /
9,14/ to find those areas where people want something to happen but think that it is impossible, and then I try- /
10,10/ to do precisely that /
11,3/ just often enough i've managed /
12,16/ to figure out how to do it and- /
13,11/ for the last several years I've been focusing /
14,13/ on holography and how we /
15,7/ can extend the boundaries of holography /
16,8/ up to this we point we've known that we can create real images of objects, virtually, that you could see /

taking a=1 we can get "bfqaolidenjcpkmgh" which seems like garbage.
hmm... graphing these coordinates:
Code:
 x
      x
                 x
x
               x
         x
    x
     x
             x
          x
   x
                 x
           x
                 x
       x
        x

looks like orion, or a spider, or a random pattern of dots!
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ineffabelle wrote:
As I mentioned earlier, its more likely the last word of each segment... since the actual phrase "last word" is mentioned. If there's anything there at all....


Maybe if you count....

Code:

08 H -- / well I never presume too much, I assume- /
01 A -- / that /
06 F -- /  in science what is known to- /
14 N -- / be possible or not possible, it's always subject to change, after all, scientific laws /
09 I -- / they're not really laws, they're not the last word /
01 A -- / science /
08 H --/ only describes, through their laws, nature. nature has- /
03 C --/ the last word /
16 P --/ nature's last word may often surprise us so I've made it a goal in my life /
20 T --/ to find those areas where people want something to happen but think that it is impossible, and then I try- /
04 D --/ to do precisely that /
05 E -- / just often enough i've managed /
08 H --/ to figure out how to do it and- /
08 H --/ for the last several years I've been focusing /
05 E --/ on holography and how we /
06 F -- / can extend the boundaries of holography /
21 S -- / up to this point we've known that we can create real images of objects, virtually, that you could see /


I can get: HAPTICS, HAND, SHEFHE....hmm something's missing.
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 		Ran this through a spectrum analyzer, which provided a very useful method to determine where breaks actually occur. The recording has a constant peak at 1080hz which runs through the duration of the message and cuts off only where there are clean breaks. A few breaks are actually pauses that Dr. Gough takes in his dialog. This leads to the following breakup of the message:

Quote:

/ be possible or not possible, it's always subject to change, after all, scientific laws /
/ well I never presume too much, I assume- /
/ just often enough i've managed /
/ the last word...nature's last word may often surprise us so I've made it a goal in my life /
/ that /
/ can extend the boundaries of holography. Up to this point we've known that we can create real images of objects, virtually, that you could see /
/ only describes, through their laws, nature. nature has- /
/ to do precisely that. For the last several years I've been focusing /
/ science /
/ on holography and how we /
/ to find those areas where people want something to happen but think that it is impossible, and then I try- /
/ they're not really laws, they're not the last word /
/ to figure out how to do it and- /
/ in science what is known to- /

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 		Awesome (finding the actual breaks in the recording).

Sounds like the important thing is the breaks. Why take an intact recording and break it up - there is a coded reason for the breaks.

"The last word" seems so obvious. What is it about the last word in the broken pieces?
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Kayberry wrote:
... This leads to the following breakup of the message:


Code:
N / be possible or not possible, it's always subject to change, after all, scientific laws /
H / well I never presume too much, I assume- /
E / just often enough i've managed /
S / the last word...nature's last word may often surprise us so I've made it a goal in my life /
A / that /
Y / can extend the boundaries of holography. Up to this we point we've known that we can create real images of objects, virtually, that you could see /
H / only describes, through their laws, nature. nature has- /
L / to do precisely that. For the last several years I've been focusing /
A / science /
E / on holography and how we /
T / to find those areas where people want something to happen but think that it is impossible, and then I try- /
I / they're not really laws, they're not the last word /
H / to figure out how to do it and- /
F / in science what is known to- /


Which anagrams to: A HEATHENISH FLY Surprised
.
.
ponder
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johnny5 wrote:

Code:

Y / can extend the boundaries of holography. Up to this we point we've known that we can create real images of objects, virtually, that you could see /



Doesn't that line have 26 words, making it Z?

This feels like the right path, but something is wrong.

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danteIL wrote:
johnny5 wrote:

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Y / can extend the boundaries of holography. Up to this we point we've known that we can create real images of objects, virtually, that you could see /



Doesn't that line have 26 words, making it Z?


There's an extra "we" that I didn't count in my original.
I played around with that being one sentence prior to Kayberry's post.
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