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[Thinking] My theory about what happened to Ariadne's worlds
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 		[Thinking] My theory about what happened to Ariadne's worlds
Why the blue line went down and why Ariadne's family get killed
In an e-mail i wrote to Ariadne, I tried to explain her how personnal labyrinth works and why it just CAN'T destroy any world even with repeated use.

For simplification purpose here is a copy/paste of the important part :

Quote:
Let's say you're about to buy a painting. By buying it, you create 2
parallel worlds : the one you're in, in which you've got the painting, and
another one in which you don't have it.

Each parallel world goes its way and may create other parallel worlds. But
obviously, there is AT LEAT ONE parallel world which is exactly the same as the one you live in, except you didn't bought the painting.

By doing a personnal labyrinth, you synchronize your parallel selves. You
make the differences between you and your other selves disappear. So if
there is a parallel world where everything is the same as yours except for
one of your decision ("you've bought the painting"), the power of personnal labyrinth will suppress the only difference there was and will merge this parallel world with yours.

I said merge, not destroy. There will be no cataclysm, no terrible death,
only two nearly exact worlds becoming one. If there was a kid running in a
field, it will still be there. If there was a mom smiling at his baby, she
will still do so.
There just won't any copy of it. Only one instance.

Now, let's say we're not talking about one painting but 10 you had to choose from. Everything is still just the same but by doing just one personnal labyrinth, you'll merge at least 10 worlds into one.

Now let's look at two, three... lots of decisions you've made ! No matter
how much, there is still at least the same amount of worlds which only
diffence is what you decided. By doing personnal labyrinth you could merge hundred, thousand, billion of worlds.

Still you're not destroying any. You're not killing anyone.


Now, that would explain the decreasing blue line but not the supposed killing of her family ("supposed", it could just be hallucinations caused by her own fear)

So here comes the "Amplified reversal" theory, the one we see here : http://olympics.wikibruce.com/Image:Book1.jpg

"2 states exist simultaneously, yes and no" -> A world where Ariadne family exists and another where Ariadne family doesn't exist
"each branches - yes and no, and no and yes" -> each world branches into others for some years (the classic "i turned left"/"i turned right" stuff)

Now Ariadne, being in a world where her family doesn't exist (as far as we know), does several personnal labyrinths.

Personnal labyrinth is the lowest form of synchronization but, still, has impact on personnal life (that's why it's named like that).
So Ariadne is synchronizing, without knowing, the state of her family in this world with the state of her family in another.

The amplified reversal theory says that "the 2 new pairs of simultaneous states each collapse back into a single state - no and no". So not only does she synchronize partly two world together (the one she's in and another one) but there's an "amplified reversal" happening on every branch they originate from that put every "source" world on the same state.

So, every world partly collapsed into a "no no" state : a state where Ariadne family doesn't exist anymore.

These worlds didn't get destroyed (personnal labyrinth is not powerful enough to do that anyway) but her family (and only her family) has been impacted... and killed.

If Ariadne had done exactly the same personnal labyrinth, but from a world where her family existed, THEN her family would have existed in every worlds. The state where "Ariadne's family doesn't exist" would have been wiped from reality due to the amplified reversal theory.
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 		BONUS CONCLUSION OF THAT THEORY : If James does a personnal labyrinth and synchronize with another "bad guy" James, the amplified reversal theory will turn every James parallel selves into a bad guy...
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 		The Codex doesn't say that personal labyrinths synchronize, it says they "co-ordinate" and help you find and communicate with your parallel selves. Indeed, later it makes clear that they aren't using "co-ordinate" as a synonym for "synchronize" because they use both in the same sentence, contrasting them:

Chapter 19, page 1 of the Codex wrote:
In the great plan of the many worlds, the parallel selves of one person becomes an infinitesimally small part of the multiverse. A personal co-ordination cannot save the world from change.

However, many personal co-ordinations in one world indeed make that world more open to co-ordinations and synchronisations from other worlds. When many individuals finish the rite of the Personal Labyrinth, the world is prepared for a much bigger co-ordination, and a much bigger synchronisation. emphasis mine


So I don't think personal labyrinths have the power to even merge worlds like synchronizing labyrinths do. They are just for communication with parallel selves.

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Hikaro wrote:
The Codex doesn't say that personal labyrinths synchronize, it says they "co-ordinate" and help you find and communicate with your parallel selves.


Well, if you're right then Ariadne is really really really wrong. Her personnal labyrinth couldn't have done ANYTHING to her world and her family.
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 		I don't believe Ariadne killed her family... I just think the trauma of seeing her family die made her think she did. A sort of victim's fallacy. I wrote her an email a couple of days ago asking her to explain what she meant by "by seeing I killed them" and "I'm not like the other allies" because I have a hunch that in reality she did not do anything.

How could a personal labyrinth kill someone in a way that would be visible in a vision, even if it did merge worlds? From what we know, all that could happen in a synchronization situation is that the worlds would merge. No traumatic, visible, drawn-out deaths to behold.

~Hikaro

EDIT: Also, think about the complications that could arise if personal labyrinths could synchronize worlds. What if someone in a world where Hitler didn't rise to power does a personal labyrinth and synchronizes with a world where he did... the 6 million Jews who died in the Holocaust have to have a huge effect on the number of worlds created/would have created had they been alive to make decisions. But the Codex clearly states that personal labyrinths cannot save the multiverse from change, so it cannot have enough power to merge worlds.

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 		Still there is the drop in the blue line. Why did it happens then ? Multiversal Olympics have already started in the "blue" worlds ?

As for your edit, my theory goes around this by saying that only personnal life is impacted. So it should be the unrised Hitler himself that do the personnal labyrinth, in order to start an amplified reversal and wipe the Hitler we know from reality.

But don't get me wrong, i'm all for the "personnal labyrinth has no impact" theory. It just that it doesn't seem to match with what happens now.
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Khaos wrote:
As for your edit, my theory goes around this by saying that only personnal life is impacted. So it should be the unrised Hitler himself that do the personnal labyrinth, in order to start an amplified reversal and wipe the Hitler we know from reality.


Applying that theory to Ariadne's situation, then Ariadne's family must have committed multiversal suicide by running their own personal labyrinths and synchronizing themselves with dead parallel selves.

My point is that you cannot screw with whether a person lives or dies or even does things with a big impact without seriously affecting the multiverse. Personal labyrinths don't affect the number of worlds any more than any other decision does.

There is a drop in the blue line, yes, but there is also a rise in the green line. Perhaps there was a Rapid Continental Shift that changed the blue worlds into green worlds. (Perhaps Ariadne's family died in the Shift).

~Hikaro

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