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[deletia]

[dposse]

[lostgeek]

And if we consider, that Widmore also has something to do with the Island and he is not with the purge guys, he could be working with Hanso.

Maybe they sent Keamy&Co to get Ben from the island (I mean if Ben can't kill Widmore maybe it's also vice versa) and wipe out the rest of them to rebuild everything.

[dposse]

[dontpanic42]

my .02 on the supply drop.

nothing was ever mentioned about it again, so we're not sure it was dropped per-say, we've seen stranger things on the island, for all we know theres some automated teleporter that delivers them randomly. i think that had it been dropped literally someone on the island would have noticed it and said something along the lines of "omgwtfbbq helicopter!": and i seem to remember someone saying something about not seeing anything flying (i ma y be incorrect feel free to correct my mistake if i made one by saying that). so the initiative may not be active on the island, or even aware of its current location (now that we know it can be moved relatively easily) thus allowing the supply drops to exsist without DHARMA interference/knowledge.

that may be going on a limb but its my thought anyway.

[theonetruebix]

FWIW, re: supply drops.

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Access_Granted#Supply_drops

[JackFrost]

About the date of current events:

[dontpanic42]

[nothinglost]

Awesome!!!!!

I can't wait for this to start.

Hopefully we'll be able to piece together some nice info on Dharma

and i also hope it's a bit more involved than Find815

[deletia]

dposse, thanks, you're right, I was forgetting that Hanso was the parent organization of DHARMA, which was in fact effectively ended by Ben and the natives.

Concerning this point...

[KLind]

[theonetruebix]

You know, I'm sorry, but the game was launched in an ad during the season four finale. To somehow suggest that those of us who are current with the show have to step gingerly here in order to play the game, because some people who aren't current want to play, is kind of silly.

The game was launched when it was to give people something to do between seasons four and five.

Honestly, if you're not actually current on the show, my position is you're simply SOL as far as the game is concerned, if you're worried about being spoiled.

[dontpanic42]

[Apopheniac79]

Here's a bit of background on the DHARMA and Hanso back stories. Yeah it's a bit long but if you need a primer it'll get you started.

[from Lostpedia: Hanso Foundation & Lostpedia: DHARMA Initiative]

According to the various films, the initiative was founded in 1970 by Gerald and Karen DeGroot, two doctoral candidates at the University of Michigan. It was or is financially backed by Danish industrialist and munitions magnate Alvar Hanso and his Hanso Foundation.

The Hanso Foundation is an organization founded by Alvar Hanso, aiming to "reach out to a better tomorrow" by researching ways to preserve human life and promote well-being. The foundation also financed the DHARMA Initiative. (In "Orientation", the Swan Orientation film gives a brief history for the DHARMA Initiative, stating that the project was financed by Alvar Hanso, head of the Hanso Foundation.)

The Hanso Group refers to the business and industral companies controlled by Alvar Hanso. The group is known to include Apollo Candy Company and Allied Copenhagen Marine Merchants.
In 1881, a company called New World Sea Traders owned the Black Rock. The owner of New World Sea Traders, Magnus Hanso, may have been captaining this slaveship when it vanished in 1881. After the Black Rock disappeared, New World Sea Traders was sold to a company called the East Ocean Trade Group. In the 1950s the East Ocean Trade Group was taken over by the Hanso Group, who renamed the company Allied Copenhagen Marine Merchants.
The Apollo Candy Company is also a subsidiary of the Hanso Group, after Alvar Hanso saved the company from near bankruptcy in the early 1970s.

There is also strong evidence to suggest that a conversation during a Sun flashback in "D.O.C." also mentioned the Foundation. Her father Mr. Paik discusses an issue with an employee as she comes to his office to see him. This was the only piece of Korean during the episode not subtitled. Translations suggest that Paik was actually discussing forged documents required to ship Paik Motors equipment ordered by the Hanso Foundation.
In Juliet's first flashback in "The Other Woman", a "Certificate of Recognition" seen in the background in Harper Stanhope's house features the distinct logo of the Hanso Foundation.

The Sri Lanka Video of The Lost Experience has revealed that the DHARMA Initiative was part of a project tied to the Valenzetti Equation. The purpose of the DHARMA Initiative on the Island was to use scientific research to manipulate the environment to change any one of the core factors of the Valenzetti Equation in order to change the course of the human race. They were also interested in researching the unique properties on the Island found nowhere else in the world. Hugh McIntyre of Hanso Foundation said in an interview as part of the game that the DHARMA Initiative's funding was cut in 1987 but the truth of this is uncertain.

The Hanso Foundation operates at least seven active projects. According to Hanso spokesman Hugh McIntyre during an appearance on Jimmy Kimmel Live!, the DHARMA Initiative was once a Hanso-funded project but it was shut down in 1987.

* Mathematical Forecasting Initiative
* Worldwide Wellness and Prevention Development Program
* Mental Health Appeal
* Electromagnetic Research Initiative
* Institute for Genomic Advancement
* Life Extension Project
* Educational Outreach Imperative

The DHARMA Initiative team were wiped out after the Hostiles gassed them all at the Barracks during the Purge on December 19, 1992.


As for Widmore Corp.
[again Lostpedia: Widmore Corporation]

In Lost
* Widmore Construction was shown in a flashback episode, where Drive Shaft are filming their videoclip near Battersea Power Station, which has a Widmore Construction banner hanging from one of the building's walls. ("Fire + Water")
* Widmore Labs appear to have sponsored or manufactured the balloon for the real Henry Gale, as their logo was featured on its side. Furthermore, Widmore Labs were the manufacturing company behind the pregnancy tests, seen a number of times on the show and used by Sun, Kate and Rachel. ("The Whole Truth") ("I Do") ("Not in Portland")
* Widmore Industries was seen on the London building where Charles Widmore has an office. ("Flashes Before Your Eyes")
* The Widmore Corporation organized the boat race Desmond participated in, which led to him shipwrecking on the Island. ("Live Together, Die Alone")

In Bad Twin
The novel "Bad Twin" heavily features the Widmore family, with private investigator Paul Artisan hired to find Zander Widmore by his twin brother Cliff Widmore. The book at times mentions some interesting facts about the company, as well as its connections to The Hanso Foundation and Paik Heavy Industries.

In The Lost Experience
The Widmore Corporation is mentioned on Thomas Werner Mittelwerk's answer phone on the Hanso phone line alongside Paik Heavy Industries. He addresses them as colleagues currently involved in active projects with the Foundation. Similarly, Peter Thompson says that anyone making threats against his colleagues or representatives of the Widmore Corporation will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
It was later established that Rachel Blake worked for the Widmore Corporation before quitting her job and receiving a healthy severance pay, which she used to finance her investigations in Europe against the Hanso Foundation.

In Find 815
It is discovered by Sam Thomas that the Maxwell Group is a division of Widmore Industries. The Group for some reason is attempting a salvage operation on the Black Rock shipwreck. There is also an implication that someone inside the Maxwell Group is helping Sam in his attempts to find out what happened to Flight 815.

Hope that helps some

[Soda]