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My thoughts on the Cloverfield sequel i.e. Cloverfield 2
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 		 My thoughts on the Cloverfield sequel i.e. Cloverfield 2
Yes, it's my first post. And it is awfully lengthy...
Well, I guess first I should introduce myself. A lot of people call me Pr0, I've been involved with the Cloverfield ARG since the teaser trailer was released before Transformers. Ever since then I've been following it like a hawk trailing its prey, finding out new information and forming my own theories and opinions along the way. I saw the movie, loved it and can't wait for the sequel. My favorite character in the film was Robert Hawkins and I guess you can say that my favorite scene in the movie was the party scene, oddly enough. Hell, if you'd know me in real-life you'd see that I like to see things come together rather than having the s*** hit the fan. I've been an active contributor to the Project Cloverfield site before it transitioned to a forum and eventually died. I've also been fairly active on Cloverfield Clues. But I'm sure Dennis doesn't even know who I am, OH NOES!!! Oh well, no biggie.

Anyways, enough about me. Here are my thoughts on the Cloverfield sequel. Feel free to leave a comment and if you have any ideas that may contradict my claims, predictions and thoughts, don't feel hesitant to let me know. There's always room on the board for discussion. Nothing below the belt, though. Heheh...

Okay, here we go. Bear with me know -- maybe grab a beer and sandwich. Wink

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1. I believe Beth and Lily are the only surviving characters from Cloverfield. If not Beth, than Lily of course. The new investigative report claims that a lot of people were evacuated during the process of the monster attacking Manhattan. So of course, yeah there are survivors. The alternate ending that showed the half-second clip of the clean-up crew picking the camera and (Lily or Beth?) screaming Rob's name also gave rise to this thought.

2. The monster is dead. Of course, JJ Abrams revealed this shocking revelation in an interview with Rolling Stones. He said that the bombs ultimately killed the monster. But that's not to say that the monster could have made its way out of the city in time. Maybe it traveled a couple miles from the city, unscathed or not and then just finally gave up and sank to the bottom of the sea. Kind of like the last chapter of the Cloverfield manga, only it was no where near that huge network of cocoons/eggs that could be harboring similar monsters?

3. The movie I hope will be more 'live-action/real-time' compared to the 'Blair Witch style' of the Cloverfield movie. I mean, the Cloverfield movie I believe worked really well in trying to make the audience believe that this was actual footage. I loved the movie and its 'dark/unknown' atmosphere. Now, I believe the sequel will focus on the investigative report and aftermath to the Manhattan incident. More light will be shed on Tagruato and the possible whereabouts of Teddy, his sister and maybe even more important icons in the Cloverfield universe.

4. I don't believe we'll ever get a glimpse of Clover's mother simply because I don't believe it has a mother. Clover just seems like the kind of kaiju (monster) that feels lost in the sense that it's not in any recognizable surroundings. It's a baby in the definition of its emotional level, scared and confused and immature to the point where it doesn't know how to deal with surviving the retaliation by the military when it makes its way through the city of Manhattan. Hell, if I were the monster I'd probably act the same way. So yeah, I guess a lot of people are expecting the monster to shed some light and maybe, just maybe we'll get to see this 'mother', But I don't believe we are going to see it. And as you can see, I have my reasons.

5. Speaking of which, I believe we are going to learn more about the monster. Where it came from, why it made its way to Manhattan, its anatomy and behavior, the link between the Sea Bed Nectar and the parasite (if you had read the investigative report on Cloverfield Clues, you would have known that there were traces of Sea Bed Nectar in the blood of the parasites) and many other things concerning the monster. Slusho! will make more of an appearance and we'll finally see how this plays into the Cloverfield universe.


Damn, I can't wait. I mean, I'm so excited! The trailer, I believe will most likely come out during maybe the end of the summer. Maybe early in the fall when JJ Abrams and Matt Reeves wrap up their current projects and sign the cast back onto the sequel. Maybe they'll sign up some new lead roles like Jamie Lascano and Teddy Hansenn. It's worth a shot -- even if it ends up being another movie only through the eyes of Teddy trying to find his girlfriend. That may ruin it for some, and I don't particularly agree that this is the way the sequel will go...but alas, it's just one of the many routes that the director and producer are considering.

- Pr0

BTW, if you guys want to see some of my stuff regarding Cloverfield, check out my deviantART account and leave me a message. It's always nice to get some feedback from a hardcore Cloverfield fan. And I believe it's awesome seeing some artwork dedicated to the movie itself.
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hunter2458 wrote:
...My only response, since this is a Tl;DR...I grabbed a bear...but it eated my face.

Oh my god, what an embarrassing typo on my part. Hahaha! No worries though, I fixed it. But seriously, let's get back on topic. And I should probably mention that I recently read the interview where I think Matt Reeves points out that the possible filming for the film will start in the fall, if not anytime sooner. So another correction on my part would be that the trailer for the sequel, at least a teaser will be released by the end of the year, no doubt.

*gives hunter2458 a cookie for making him laugh* O.o
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 		Nice art!

I think Lily's the only one to make it out alive. If Rob was killed, prolly so was beth. Plus she's mentioned in the files, just like all the others that died.

I also don't know if Teddy will be involved. After all, people who don't know the ARG probably wouldn't have a clue.Smile

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amjdmg wrote:
Nice art!

I think Lily's the only one to make it out alive. If Rob was killed, prolly so was beth. Plus she's mentioned in the files, just like all the others that died.

I also don't know if Teddy will be involved. After all, people who don't know the ARG probably wouldn't have a clue.Smile

Yeah, but there's lots of ways the director can introduce characters like Teddy, Jamie, Alyse (Teddy's sister) into the sequel without really having it known that only the Cloverfield ARG followers know who they are. A lot of the newer fans can catch up pretty quickly on their whereabouts just by making some references in the first scene of the sequel.

I kind of wish Rob Hawkins never died. Apart from being my favorite Cloverfield character, he also seemed to be the most realistic of the bunch. Jason died a bit quickly in the movie. I thought he'd have a bigger role. That or he could have managed to stay alive a bit longer. I guess I couldn't imagine being any different considering I wouldn't have known that the Brooklyn Bridge was going to be crushed by the monster's tail.
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 		Alternate Endings would mean they're false to the canon, so Beth's prolly dead.

I would like to note the SIM (Special Investigation Mode) Makes no mention of Lily's status.

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hunter2458 wrote:
Alternate Endings would mean they're false to the canon, so Beth's prolly dead.

I would like to note the SIM (Special Investigation Mode) Makes no mention of Lily's status.

Yeah, she's probably dead. And with the SIM not making any mention of Lily's status would probably mean that she didn't make it out alive as well. But the SIM does take note that out of all of the evacuation helicopters that had escaped Manhattan, only two were unsuccessful. So I'm thinking that Lily had died as well in a similar helicopter crash. The monster, oddly enough seemed to have been focusing on escaping from the military and possibly hunting down Rob Hawkins and his friends.
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 		The Helicopter that Hud and Co got in crashed, and the one just after it went down most likely. Lily was unimportant as a witness, Hud and Rob were the only ones important at the time, Lily doesn't know anything about Tag and was merely another civilian who became unaccounted for after evac.

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hunter2458 wrote:
The Helicopter that Hud and Co got in crashed, and the one just after it went down most likely. Lily was unimportant as a witness, Hud and Rob were the only ones important at the time, Lily doesn't know anything about Tag and was merely another civilian who became unaccounted for after evac.

Well, that's the thing though. You wouldn't have found any ties with Tagruato unless you have witnesses. I would have thought that they'd need Lily as a witness considering she knows about Rob Hawkins and his recent plans to move to Japan to work under the Slusho! brand in the Public Relations/Marketing team. Of course, excluding the fact that there was a burning Tagruato oil tanker right off the coast of Manhattan, lol.
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 		But Lily doesn't know hardly anything, she's the girl in charge of watching the relationships, not keeping track of Rob's business life.

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 		Most all of your points I agree with. Awesome job for a first post.

And although I'm hoping very much for a non-Blair sequel, I'm pretty sure they're are planning a Blair one. Which is lame.
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 		Re: My thoughts on the Cloverfield sequel i.e. Cloverfield 2
Yes, it's my first post. And it is awfully lengthy...
Pr0LiFiX wrote:

1. I believe Beth and Lily are the only surviving characters from Cloverfield. If not Beth, than Lily of course. The new investigative report claims that a lot of people were evacuated during the process of the monster attacking Manhattan. So of course, yeah there are survivors. The alternate ending that showed the half-second clip of the clean-up crew picking the camera and (Lily or Beth?) screaming Rob's name also gave rise to this thought.

2. The monster is dead. Of course, JJ Abrams revealed this shocking revelation in an interview with Rolling Stones. He said that the bombs ultimately killed the monster. But that's not to say that the monster could have made its way out of the city in time. Maybe it traveled a couple miles from the city, unscathed or not and then just finally gave up and sank to the bottom of the sea. Kind of like the last chapter of the Cloverfield manga, only it was no where near that huge network of cocoons/eggs that could be harboring similar monsters?

3. The movie I hope will be more 'live-action/real-time' compared to the 'Blair Witch style' of the Cloverfield movie. I mean, the Cloverfield movie I believe worked really well in trying to make the audience believe that this was actual footage. I loved the movie and its 'dark/unknown' atmosphere. Now, I believe the sequel will focus on the investigative report and aftermath to the Manhattan incident. More light will be shed on Tagruato and the possible whereabouts of Teddy, his sister and maybe even more important icons in the Cloverfield universe.

4. I don't believe we'll ever get a glimpse of Clover's mother simply because I don't believe it has a mother. Clover just seems like the kind of kaiju (monster) that feels lost in the sense that it's not in any recognizable surroundings. It's a baby in the definition of its emotional level, scared and confused and immature to the point where it doesn't know how to deal with surviving the retaliation by the military when it makes its way through the city of Manhattan. Hell, if I were the monster I'd probably act the same way. So yeah, I guess a lot of people are expecting the monster to shed some light and maybe, just maybe we'll get to see this 'mother', But I don't believe we are going to see it. And as you can see, I have my reasons.

5. Speaking of which, I believe we are going to learn more about the monster. Where it came from, why it made its way to Manhattan, its anatomy and behavior, the link between the Sea Bed Nectar and the parasite (if you had read the investigative report on Cloverfield Clues, you would have known that there were traces of Sea Bed Nectar in the blood of the parasites) and many other things concerning the monster. Slusho! will make more of an appearance and we'll finally see how this plays into the Cloverfield universe.

1. I highly doubt beth lived. How could she live and rob die when she was already sustaining massive internal injuries?
2. I think the monster dies, but not in any time close to the end of the movie. If a B2 Bomber drops kilotons of bombs on it and it gets right back up, i don't think Hammerdown (whether it's bunker busters or some other high explosive) is going to do much else. I agree it dies...but not for a good time after the movie ends.
3. I could go either way. It would be a gimmick to use the handheld again, but it would be just like any other monster movie if filmed otherwise.
4. Agreed.
5. I think you're giving them way too much credit. I almost feel as if they're making up shit about the story as they go along. "Let's see how big a hole we can dig ourselves into!"
I'd be pumped if they DID reveal this info though.

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hunter2458 wrote:
Alternate Endings would mean they're false to the canon, so Beth's prolly dead.

I would like to note the SIM (Special Investigation Mode) Makes no mention of Lily's status.


I mentioned this in another thread, and this IS just an opinion, but i think that the fact that they didnt mention lily in the SIM means that shes alive. The reason i say this, is because if she were dead, they would have been able to identify who she is because of the dead body(just like HUD, BETH,JASON,ect..) and put her in the notes. Everyone else is dead or presumed to be dead. And they make mention of Teddy in the SIM because hes probably under suspicion of involvement in this whole thing, just like Ganu Yoshida is. I honestly think that the reason they didnt make mention of lily in the SIM is because they couldn't find her body, and is presumed to be a survivor like the thousands of other evacuees who made it out alive and weren't made mention of.
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 		hey good ideas there dude...anyway I'm hoping that the next installment wont be done in the same style because if they use the same style for then next movies then it will get real boring and repetive and no one will want to see it which in turn will ruin the excitment the first cloverfield movie did.
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cm101388 wrote:
hey good ideas there dude...anyway I'm hoping that the next installment wont be done in the same style because if they use the same style for then next movies then it will get real boring and repetive and no one will want to see it which in turn will ruin the excitment the first cloverfield movie did.

Either way, in theory sequels are not always as good as its predecessors. In fact, Matt Reeves did state that he wanted to wait a good while to get some ideas for the sequel so it would still appeal to its viewers. But I think he just has too much projects to deal with. Matt Reeves, JJ Abrams and the other guy...I forgot his name. They all seem to be working on different things at the moment (The Invisible Woman, Star Trek, Fringe etc.)
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