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EMAIL/PHONE MAYOR: about contacting Dale
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Aveena
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 		Ok, guys. The phone call from the mayor that was expected tonight did indeed happen. The details of the conversation were requested to be kept confidential (I know....I'm sorry).

The mayor has been inundated with inquires over the past few days and he seems a bit stressed at the moment. A request has been made of him for clarification on the information given, and we are awaiting a response; so for right now there is no new news to report.

For the moment, I would suggest that contact with the mayor's office be extremely limited so he has a chance to recover from the deluge. If you feel that you MUST contact him or his office for some reason, don't mention this conversation.

As soon as clarification is received on the information that was given we will know better how to proceed.

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 		Clarification on the garbled location that The Mayor told Aveena about and a new site!:

Dear Ms. Gatenza:

It was a pleasure talking with you, as brief as it was. Sorry for the phone
problems we experienced. Too many damn buttons on these systems you know.

And you are right, it's the "nosy" newsies I'm concerned about. If you have other associates who appreciate the need for discretion here, feel free to share the information with them.

As far as that place's name, I really don't know the spelling. Someone told it to me over the phone too. But I think you misheard me slightly. I know,
probably going to blame a "Jersey" accent or something. Outsiders just don't understand that they have the accents, not us. Anyway, I think it may be more like Clepsedra or Clepsidra or something. That's what it sounded like to me.

Hope that helps.
Now I have to run.

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cemgate2002 wrote:
Clarification on the garbled location that The Mayor told Aveena about and a new site!:


Now that we've got that out of the way, here's the rest of the info that was given. The mayor said that someone had left him a voicemail indicating that Dale was at this facility. It is located in Princeton, NJ.

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 		The post from CD mentions GreatWater, Aveena do yo recall him mentioning this in the phone conversation, as that particular piece of info didn't come via email?

~cem

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The post from CD mentions GreatWater, Aveena do yo recall him mentioning this in the phone conversation, as that particular piece of info didn't come via email?


Actually, this info was from the Mayor in his email to ElderofZion. See Emails from Mayor thread: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=719.
We just didn't do anything with it initially. Then Diandra did some namedropping and found the hospital's website www.greatwatergeneral.com (yay D, queen of the website finding).
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 		I do understand where the info came from but what I was trying to say is that Greatwater was never mentioned in any of the email I received from the Mayor, and because I didn't take the call I am wondering (for curiosity's sake) if he mentioned it when talking with Aveena last night, or if this information was only given via ElderofZion's contact with the Mayor.

It would shed some light on some of the game dynamics I guess.

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 		He did not mention anything about Greatwater when I spoke to him.

-veen

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 		Kindergarten taught me to share.
Cem wrote:
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I do understand where the info came from but what I was trying to say is that Greatwater was never mentioned in any of the email I received from the Mayor, and because I didn't take the call I am wondering (for curiosity's sake) if he mentioned it when talking with Aveena last night, or if this information was only given via ElderofZion's contact with the Mayor.

It would shed some light on some of the game dynamics I guess.


Aveena answered:
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He did not mention anything about Greatwater when I spoke to him.


I think this shows us that we all have to work together and share everything. This is a game of cooperation. This is not a competition. I will continue to do my best in helping to make sure everyone gets a chance to see everything, regardless of the source.[/quote]
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 		Sister city
I emailed the Mayor a week or so ago and just received this reply. My thought process was that maybe by finding out about growth ect. of Aglaura and how they conduct business we could find out more about the Council/Mayor and the Sons of Don connection. Below is the reply and the origional email sent. Do you think this is a dead end? Or how could we use this to get more information?

Ms. Monarch:

I spoke with the Mayor and although he mentioned the fact that this
would be
more of a Council issue to discuss, he did tell me I could inform you
that "anything is possible".

To that end, if you have any other information or data you'd like to
share
about your town and why you believe Aglaura would be an ideal sister
city, your
input is welcome.

Thank you.

Lorraine Tweed, admimistrative assistant
for Pat J. Dobbs
Mayor of Aglaura NJ




Dear Mayor Dobbs,

I'd like to introduce myself. I'm Kim Monarch. I happen to be the
Mayor of
Casstown Ohio. Casstown has about 300 official residents but is the
city
center for many farms throughout the Miami County. At the present
time we
> are looking for a sister city. I noticed Aglaura this summer during
a family
> vacation. Your town is very beautiful and I see that you are
successfully
> growing. Our little town is trying to do the same. I just saw your
new
> web-site while surfing the net last week and was very impressed. I
am very
> new to my position as Mayor and would really like to find a sister
city with
> a Mayor with whom I could bounce around ideas and receive some
guidance. A
> mentor so to speak. Please let me know if this would be something
you might
> be interested in pursuing. Thank you for your time.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Kim Monarch, DDS

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 		Mayor Not A PushOver
Well this is sort of embarrassing, but I'm going to post anyway so that others may learn from my mistake:)

After the phone conference I was under the impression that the Mayor was a puppet. I hadn't had any recent correspondance with him and I thought maybe if I leaned on him a little with the "evidence", used his fear of "unwanted" publicity for the town, and the speculation of Marzano corruption...that he would (unrealistic expectations) use his clout to help us out.

I didn't think this email through well enough, I admit that was a mistake. I may have damaged the relationship and he may never trust me again. I trust him and think he's sincere about helping Dale, just not at te expense of Aglaura. I don't know. I thought it was the right move, but this just reinforces the fact that if you have an idea, to get some help before you send it.

I wasn't even going to post it, because I felt a little embarrassed but I think it's a good insight into the Mayor's character and others may be able to judge more appropriately what would be acceptable to write in an email to him.

Note- In the mention of Bruce Abbott not accepting email, I had tried to email Bruce last week and it came back saying "no longer accepting mail". This letter to the Mayor was sent prior to me double checking his addy, as there is was a "T" missing from his name in the Quick Ref. So when I wrote to the Mayor I was going under the assumption of "What next?"...if Bruce isn't accepting email...who else can we contact that would have any clout? I also hadn't picked up on (during the conference) that the accident was in the States' jurisdiction. (yet another reason to screen.....live and learn)

MY LETTER -more aptly titled "Too Much Muscle"

Dear Mr. Mayor,

You asked me to contact you with any news about Dale, and I have stumbled upon something of great import.

I realize that Dale was claiming some extremely outlandish things in regards to his experiences on the date of the accident.

Diana and Meaghan Sprague were pronounced dead at the scene at 4:30pm on Feb.14th.

I have come accross some damning evidence via my sources in Aglaura that suggest quite strongly that Meaghan Sprague was alive and well at 4:33pm on Feb.14th. Irrefutable evidence in fact. Evidence that I would be willing to disclose to you as a gesture of good faith.

Your honour, I am not the only one with access to this information and your town is about to be blown wide open with speculation of police and political cover-ups. Dale is not insane, sir, of that I assure you.

I strongly advise you to use every bit of political clout you possess to have him released. If that is impossible, might you have C.O.P Prufrock or Mr. Bruce Abbott get in touch with me to discuss the details of the accident and Dale's subsequent committal. Apparently Mr. Abbott has Power of Attorney and is the one who had him committed, but he is not accepting email at present.

We must deal with this swiftly Mr. Mayor, before someone makes a mountain of a molehill....is this the hill on which you wish to make your last stand? To have people accusing you and your C.O.P of not investigating this accident fully, of allowing someone who was merely bereaved to be committed to a mental health facility for telling the truth?

I will await your word.

Sincerely,
Ms C. Gatenza

HIS REPLY TODAY -more aptly titled "Who the Hell do You Think You Are?"

Ms. Gatenza:

As with most others, my assistant Lorraine was going to respond to your e-mail; however, after bringing it to my attention, I have discussed our response with the attorney and felt it best to answer myself.

An official word on this matter, as indicated in the press conference - this
incident took place outside Aglaura, and is being handled by state authorities. Our town police have next to nothing to do with the
investigation, short of fending off reporters and nosy people asking questions that we simply cannot answer. Allegations that our police and/or politicians may be "covering up" anything are absurd, unfounded, and impossible. By all means, if anyone has found evidence regarding the accident, I would be very much interested in seeing it.

On a more personal note - I'm sure you understand the implications of unfounded slander, and I am sure you do not want the relationship between our two offices to suffer as a result of threats. Please pass this on to the concerned parties that you imply exist. I understand that you are concerned for your client, but please understand that we are as equally concerned for that self-same friend and neighbor.

Now, I also infer from your message that you are under the impression that we claimed Dale is/was insane? I am unsure where this has come from. As has been previously stated, Dale has been privately recuperating from his physical and emotional traumas at the discretion of his family and immediate friends. If you want to know more information, you will have to contact them directly.

Finally - as I'm sure your office is aware, we cannot act on recordings or e-
mails or other tamperable pieces of evidence - we would need something
irrefutable as you claim you have. Neither I nor the local authorities have
the time, inclination, or ability to go chasing after whatever imagined
situations have everyone sending me persistent, insistent, and even defamatory letters all the time. A tragic incident indeed, but it boggles my mind how people can blow a car accident way out of proportion.

I hope this answers your questions.

Pat J. Dobbs
Mayor of Aglaura NJ

Hardcopy cc: JD Willingham
Hardcopy cc: Lorraine Tweed

MY TWO REPLIES - Needed to draft a second one when I realized that the first wasn't a whole lot better than the original. And was feeling too embarrassed by my lack of thought put into the original to ask for help today:)

1)Dear Mr. Mayor

It was certainly not my intention to infer that I held the key to keeping your good name (and the town's) from falling into disrepute. It is precisely because of that reason that I chose to inform you of what may occur in light of what others may/may not actually possess in the way of evidence corroborating Dale's version of events on that fateful day.

As for the State authorities handling the accident investigation, I did understand that was indeed the case, but I am not interested in the accident investigation per se. I do not have a dialogue with anyone in the State Police,and I assumed ,albeit possibly unfounded, that you had a little more "pull" than you do.

You're right, Dale is not insane, but I don't think he's recuperating at the behest of his family either. I know from a short correspondance directly prior to his "committal" that it was Bruce Abbott who insisted on his "recuperation" due to what he felt to be Dale's skewed interpretation of the events in question. An interpretation that may be actually be the truth. I also know he didn't go willingly.

Speaking to your point regarding unfounded allegations of police/political cover up being "absurd", you yourself must admit that your "press conference" ended on a most *peculiar* note.

I am not suggesting that the Sprague case in any way ties in with what may/may not be going on in Aglaura politics. I am only presenting the possibility that there are people who will stop at nothing to uncover the truth, and there is a truth here. Who knows what they'll unearth, do you know "everything" Dale the Councilman had his hand in? Did you know he had "dealings" with the Marzano boys? Weren't there some questions at the Press Conference alluding to the town's possible involvement in patronage over the Library bidding process? Could Dale have been involved in pushing their bid?

I don't want to see you or your government dragged into it anymore than you are,Pat. You must admit, Aglaura has had a most peculiar surge of kooks coming out of the woodwork as of late. Although I'm sure Wes/EOTW has a quaint little following and adds his own peculiar slant to the local tourist economy, I'm sure you don't want your town overshadowed by it.

Look, all I was trying to convey is that if you had any influence whatsoever with Bruce Abbott, or anyone higher up that could help in Dale's release, that it would be in your(and thus the town's) best interests to attempt to do this without fanfare.

I now see that my "request" was misplaced, and I'll leave you to fend off the reporters, nosey people, and lunatics at your will.

If there's anything I can do for you in the future, please don't hesitate to contact me. Maybe we can go for a drink sometime when your in Mount Holly, I would very much enjoy talking with you in person.

Take Care,

Ms. C. Gatenza

2)Pat,

Just a quick not of apology for my brashness of late. Like you, I've been under a lot of stress lately in regards to Dale's situation.

I truly did not mean to imply anything awry in the politics or policies of Aglaura. I'm just so damned frustrated that I'm not feeling myself. I can't seem to get anywhere in regards to contacting Dale. Everyone keeps saying Dale isn't crazy, he's just "resting" and I think when I heard the same from you I just lost my wits.

What I don't understand is that if no one thinks he's off his rocker, what's he doing in Klepsydra? Why not grief counselling on an outpatient basis? Dale wrote me pleading for help, and he trusts me to do just that. So you'll have to excuse my recent outburst as I am feeling blocked at every turn.

Dale told me Abbott was having him forcibly committed. Do you know Abbott personally? I haven't gotten anywhere with him, I'm sure he's heard Dale mention me and knows what I'm looking to do. I know he holds the key, but I just don't trust the man. I know he now has Power of Attorney over Dale, why? I also know Dale got a loan from the Marznao boys, and that Abbott was the one who gave him the contact. Of course I have only Dale's word on this, and as such it wouldn't hold water anywhere at present. But I believe him. There's a truth here Pat. I don't know what it is, but I do intend to find out.

If you can find a way to forgive my recent lapse in judgement I would be most appreciative if you could poke around a bit in regards to Bruce Abbott. Any information at all, even rumors of excessive spending, etc. I need to find out why he felt the need to have him forcibly committed, why he was given Power of Attorney, and who he petitioned for either and on what basis.

I know you're a busy soul right now, and you may not even want to get involved in this. But somehow I think it's too late for that. This will affect Aglaura in some way, shape, or form -I'm just trying to go about it with the least possible fall out for both Dale and Aglaura.

Again, I apologize for my mindset lately and reserve hope that you will at least give my request some thought.

Here's hoping that this week is a little easier on you!

~C~
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I just sent these last two off, and I am bowing out unless he contacts me. I think I screwed up royally with it, and am not very good at this part of the game, but live and learn. Maybe someone will have better luck...I don't think I expected such "realism" from these characters. I think it's fine for someone to shoot off random email to see what sticks, but if you have a dialogue going with someone I think it's infinitely better to get help in maintaining the relationship...others may see things you missed.

That being said...nite.
~cem

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I do find it odd that he says in the second paragraph that they have nothing to do with it.
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An official word on this matter, as indicated in the press conference - this
incident took place outside Aglaura, and is being handled by state authorities. Our town police have next to nothing to do with the
investigation, short of fending off reporters and nosy people asking questions that we simply cannot answer.


And at the end he acts as though he could.

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Finally - as I'm sure your office is aware, we cannot act on recordings or e-
mails or other tamperable pieces of evidence - we would need something
irrefutable as you claim you have.


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 		cem
Thanks for those. See my note from Dr. Kendra basically telling me to go jump in a lake, and my other noted from AGP telling me that they were too busy to check on the time stamps.

How do we investigate this if our contacts want nothing to do with us?

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 		Cem, I think your emails to the mayor are better than you give yourself credit. We don't know what the Characters know and what they plan to tell us. I personally think a reporter would most likely get more information on an accident like that of Dales than we have been able to receive. Those channel 8 news reporters sure aren't going to get any emmies for their scoops. For me time in Aglaura seems to go in slomo. I still think we have to test the waters with our correspondence till we hit the mark. Having said that the slomo makes it possible for me to keep up with the game a bit easier.

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 		Dmax and cemgate
I don't think you should feel bad at all about your emails....except for the loss of a personal in game contact (which is very disappointing to you and a sad thing to lose), your emails haven't done any harm to our progress in the game. We've learned what tact not to take with the mayor and Dr. Kendra and I think that is really important. Some of our characters have been very easy to establish communication with and some have been impossible, i.e. Bruce. It helps a lot to narrow down the possible approaches we can take with difficult characters. Then again, their reluctance to communicate with us may also be telling us that they have nothing to say or contribute... at least along the lines of questioning or at this time in the game.

I thought your letters were well done and I admired your approaches. You did good Smile

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 		Mailing the mayor
Hey folks - still trying to catch up.

Poor Cem's contacted me in PM's all week and I've finally gotten to this whole string of posts she's been talking about. Now that I know what you've been talking about, Cem, I think you're doing a great job - if the PM's didn't want to maintain your association with the mayor, I think the mayor would have told you to screw off by now. I say keep it up until you get told to go away - the worst case is that you get no more real info out of him, and the best case is that you'll be the first to hear something new from that source.

Someone raised a point a few notes above (Dmax? I forget) about things the mayor said - I was reading it as the mayor saying that Aglaura doesn't have much to do with the investigation but that if he got something he'd have the responsibility of addressing it with the proper authorities.

Keep at it Cemmy =).

-SV

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