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sapagoo
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unagi wrote:
thebruce wrote:
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Eight points of connection create eight short curves, of which only five belong
8 arcs - formed by the connection joints of the 5 rings
isn't it "only five short curves out of eight belong"?
(But I have no idea what five belong to)
SPEC - I can get 5 short curves by following the instructions of
Above No, Below Yes,
Below No, Above Yes,
Above No, Below Yes,
Below Yes, Above Yes
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:14 pm
jasper
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sapagoo wrote:
unagi wrote:
thebruce wrote:
Quote:
Eight points of connection create eight short curves, of which only five belong
8 arcs - formed by the connection joints of the 5 rings
isn't it "only five short curves out of eight belong"?
(But I have no idea what five belong to)
SPEC - I can get 5 short curves by following the instructions of
Above No, Below Yes,
Below No, Above Yes,
Above No, Below Yes,
Below Yes, Above Yes
That looks perfect! Sorry for posting with nothing to actually add, but I'm excited
Unagi, I thought the line you mentioned would be "We won't be able to tell you precicely where to search. We only can teach you to see."
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:37 pm
unagi
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jasper wrote:
Unagi, I thought the line you mentioned would be "We won't be able to tell you precicely where to search. We only can teach you to see."
Thanks, I think so.
I still stick to the word "spheroid", a sort of three-dimensional structure.
Perhaps we have to reproduce a flattened spheroid instead of a perfect circle.
I am thinking of combining 5 arcs like a three-dimensional structure seen in the trailers.
Well, the word "like" is misleading, but anyway I am thinking of three-dimensional objects.
EDIT: but we have to read a sort of instruction on the object -- I have no idea why we have to find a way of assembling five arcs.
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:52 pm
Last edited by unagi on Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:03 pm; edited 2 times in total
jasper
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spheroid, yeah. I think it means the form is not a "perfect" sphere. If you fit four of those arc segments together, it would be a circle, maybe 5 of them make a flattened spheroid.
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:59 pm
ariock
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sapagoo wrote:
unagi wrote:
thebruce wrote:
Quote:
Eight points of connection create eight short curves, of which only five belong
8 arcs - formed by the connection joints of the 5 rings
isn't it "only five short curves out of eight belong"?
(But I have no idea what five belong to)
SPEC - I can get 5 short curves by following the instructions of
Above No, Below Yes,
Below No, Above Yes,
Above No, Below Yes,
Below Yes, Above Yes
Each of the 5 curved segments is from a different ring. Also, none of the segments is 1/4 of a circle, each is slightly shorter. 1/4 is 25%. 1/5 is 20%. If each of the five segments is 20% of a ring, they'd fit together to create the sixth ring.
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:42 pm
thebruce
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they don't look to be 1/5 by the official logo ; perhaps if you're very conservative with the extent of each arc segment...
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:49 pm
ariock
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thebruce wrote:
they don't look to be 1/5 by the official logo ; perhaps if you're very conservative with the extent of each arc segment...
It has to be less than 25%. If it were 25%, the rings on the top row would touch each other and the rings on the bottom row would touch each other. Is iit 20%? I'm not sure yet. I don't have access to AutoCAD at the moment, so I'm stuck.
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:11 pm
TWolf
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Joined: 11 Jun 2008 Posts: 52
The 5 parts of the 5 rings together forming a "Master sixty" ring is a perfect teory, and in the mythology always have a history of Union making a
powerful world of things like that.
Can be fun but I see a analogy with the Planet Capitan, where the union
of the 5 rings ( Earth! Air! Fire! Water! Hearth! Go Planet !.... rsrsrs) brings
a Master Power.
Very Nice Bruce !
o/
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:27 pm
dreamerblue
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If I'm cutting them out right (apparently this game is why I'm not getting any marking or anything productive done in life ), the yellow and red segments are slightly longer than the other 3.
(edited 'cuz I said green instead of red at first)
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:51 pm
runeix ftlr
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when it talks about the 5 continents. does that mean that there is one part of the ring hidden on each continant (excluding Antactica)??
good work guys
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:14 pm
dreamerblue
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Well, the rings in the emblem are supposed to represent the five inhabited continents (the Americas being counted as one and Antarctica being omitted), or originally, according to Wikipedia , "the five parts of the world which now are won over to Olympism and willing to accept healthy competition." So cutting out one arc from each ring is like taking part of the ring from each continent (though Wikipedia does state that "no continent is represented by any specific ring").
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:00 pm
ariock
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I did some math...
Assuming the bottom curves of the top row of rings exactly touch a line passing through the centers of the bottom row of rings...
And assuming that the .png file linked by thebruce is accurate as far as the width of the rings, and the spacing of the rings....
AND modeling the rings as a simple line midway between the outer edge and the inner edge of the ring itself...
I came up with an angle of 76 degrees for the ring segment. For comparison, a 1/4 segment would be 90 degrees, 1/5 is 72 degrees, and 1/6 is 60 degrees.
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:45 pm
Khaos
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I don't really understand what we're seeking here but to add my two cents : Earth is a "flattened spheroid" (Our planet is not perfectly round)
EDIT : So "Por savi la planedon, vi devas trovi la planedon", "la planedon" is our homeworld.
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:02 am
VictorSueiro
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Great work guys.
I think that sapagoo model is excelent... thats an exact representation of the codex.
But, what are we looking for?
Quote:
When the words are coordinated, the worlds are coordinated.
Should we use sapagoo/codex model to find a relation with words/chars?
We have continents names and continent ring colors...
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:10 am
VictorSueiro
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There are three different theories regarding olympic rings symbology
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anillos_Ol%C3%ADmpicos
Quote:
Color Teory 1 Teory 2 Teory 3
Blue America Oceanía Europe
Yellow Africa Asia Asia
Black Europe Africa Africa
Green Oceania Europe Oceanía
Red Asia America America
Maybe this can be usefull to
Esperanto continent names:
Quote:
Afriko
Aŭstralio (or Oceania/o?)
Azio
Eŭropo
Ameriko
Esperanto colors names:
Quote:
Red Ruĝa
Black Nigra
Yellow Flava
Green Verda
Blue Blua
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:25 am
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