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[LOCKED] [SPEC] The Obvious Coordinates Conclusion
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Speaker
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Just out of amusement:

From Facts about Missouri site:
State insect -- Honey bee
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[spec] GPS coordinates

This was the only topic I could manage reading, so I'll put my spec here and hope that it's relevant.

What if the GPS coordinates (if indeed they are a puzzle) aren't about the physical locations at all? What if they're about something more mundane, like the states they're in.

I looked through the list of State abbreviations from the wiki http://bees.netninja.com/wiki/index.php?title=GPS_Locations

and made what I hope is a complete list of them and ran them together for anyone who wants to try them as an anagram. (I'm leaving town for awhile, so I can't do this myself.)

AZCAINDCMAMDORWAIDORMINYVAMOOHPA
WVCTALGAUTFLNVILNMTXLAWIIAVAMNSDWI

What also comes to mind is the license plate puzzle, minus the obvious mathmatical forumla. Maybe if someone listed how many sites are in each state, perhaps that might be significant.

Then again, I have never, in all my years of ARG playing, been right about something like this.
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well i found another 'bee' reference in Sedalia *giggle*

At 3320 W Broadway Blvd Sedalia, MO (an address mapping to the 50 SEDALIA MO address from Wishi for Row-102 Col-002... there is an Applebee's restaurant. Its seems like I'm pushing... I know. But based on the mapquest maps the gps and the address match up.

Mapquest GPS Coords

Mapquest Applebee's Address


Make of it what you will.

EDIT - ginormous URLs - SG
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Well I decided to see if this theory would hold up, so I did some searching on my favorite coordinate (you guessed it, Boonsboro, MD)...

Anyway, I was astonished at what I found!

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Boonsboro boy, 13, wins Wash. Co. spelling bee
Hagerstown - A 13-year-old boy from Boonsboro Middle School will represent Washington County at the annual Scripps Howard National Spelling Bee.

Blaine Ford correctly spelled "offertory" to win the county competition on Saturday. The word is a noun naming a type of music played in church when the collection plate is passed. Blaine says he knew how to spell it because he's seen the word in his church bulletin.

The local spelling bee was sponsored by The Herald-Mail. The paper will give Blaine and a guardian an all-expenses paid trip to the National Spelling Bee this spring.


To see the page the article came from, go here. I know the date at the top of the page would be the downfall of this discovery, as it's for today, but I foudn on another site that this is total BS, the news story was released on Sunday March 14, 2004.

Here's the one flaw in the theory. The Boonsboro location from the GPS coordinates is found [url=http://mappoint.msn.com/(rlbmw02cwj1qob2ui3dt5455)/map.aspx?C=39.4958%2c-77.6531&A=35.83333&P=|39.4958%2c-77.6531|1|Cache|L1|]here[/url]. The Middle School, the Herald-Mail sponsor, and all the retail locations where you can find Herald-Mail newspapers are located a good ways off from this spot. In fact I haven't found anything from the news story that might be at this exact spot quite yet. I have yet to do a search of the local churches (that was an important part of the story, so maybe the boonsboro church they attend is at the spot?) or of the boy's name (although I don't think you can find addresses based on the names of dependants). But I'm thinking both of these may be dead ends as well, since he apparently lives in Hagerstown, (even though his middle school is in Boonsboro) which is on the other side of Boonsboro from this location.

Still, you can't deny the earieness of the connection. I'll see what else I can find...

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Not to pursue this obvious dead-end any further or anything, but I also found a page talking about a rootstown, OH student winning a bee of some sort.

I guess you can find bees anywhere you look if you look hard enough, but the first three are kind of getting to me - "buzy bee board up", the mall where that guy released the bees (both SMACK on the coordinates.)
And maybe even longmont, CO - home of the freaking "national honey board" and not much else...

I know you guys are talking about SNR - but maybe that is the point - maybe there is a lot of noise in this signal - we have to pick out the sites that have somthing to do with bees (hell, even applebees) - THEN it might all mean something.

But,

probably not.

Sigh.

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Something to chew on:

After reading at the Wiki site that one of the GPS locations happened to be a K-Mart that had a bee-related news story, I decided to google around for similar events at a site near me.

Row 5, column 2 coordinates are either right at the front door or inside (depening on who you ask) the Factoria Mall in Bellevue, Washington. This location is pretty close to a payphone (I still like the payphones theory), but Google also revealed that there is a seminar taking place there soon:

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Saturday, October 23, 2004

9am - 4pm

Seattle Tree Fruit Fall Fair

Factoria Mall

Mason Bee educational display and other informative displays.

Beediverse Mason Bee houses and books will be available for sale.

Dr. Margriet Dogterom is available for book signing and to answer questions about mason bees and pollination.

She will be presenting a seminar on "Keeping your mason bees healthy and productive"- time to be announced.

Come and share your ideas and thoughts on keeping mason bees. See you there!


This comes from http://www.beediverse.com/calendar.shtml

The company is owned by a Dr. Margriet Dogterom (almost a Margaret, but not quite). Although a website so narrowly focused on bees (they even have forums!) is kind of wierd, it looks legit. Dr. Dogterom is referenced by other beekeeping websites and has a book or two on Amazon.


This is from FuSchnick in the big forum. - Trying to accumulate bee connections in this thread for now anyway - until the mods clean this mess up.

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Ok so In reference to the Palo Alto Ca, Locations ..

I found this http://www.barron.palo-alto.ca.us/
it looks like thier mascot is None other than you guessed right a"BEE"
they had bee days .. ( not to be confused with B-day ) where everyone dressed up as bees , however it was back in NOV when this happend .. And barron park is a couple of blocks from both co-ord.

the only other tie i can see is 8/24 when school starts.

Theres also a Bumble bee links page ..

There is also this article which talks about bees being killed by mites .

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Some bee experts believe the native carpenter bees and bumblebees are more prevalent this year because honey bees are dying from a parasitic mite, thus leaving more food--pollen and nectar--for the other bees
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May-bee we're on to something, maybe our AI searched for bees or related articles trying to find DANA.

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I'd only really look into bee connections that fall EXACTLY on the coords though

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Hey, I like that one. Unfortunately that means we've been barking up a great many wrong trees if true... but that'd be the case anyway with the many possible interpretations floated around.

-- Steve's now trying to work out how this advances the story... if he can, that may give us some handle on what else to look for.
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Sedalia and Cleveland have this in common. A Beekeeper's Meetup is scheduled for both places. They have a nice online site.
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Speaker wrote:
well i found another 'bee' reference in Sedalia *giggle*

At 3320 W Broadway Blvd Sedalia, MO (an address mapping to the 50 SEDALIA MO address from Wishi for Row-102 Col-002... there is an Applebee's restaurant. Its seems like I'm pushing... I know. But based on the mapquest maps the gps and the address match up.

Mapquest GPS Coords

Mapquest Applebee's Address

Make of it what you will.

EDIT - ginormous URLs - SG


OK, this got me thinking after I looked at the two mapquest maps. If you simply type in the 9-digit zip code (65301-2121) for that address, the map comes up exactly the same.

Could these locations all resolve to 9 digit numbers?

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Good idea however, why are some co-ordinates in the same zip ..not to mention right across the street from each other .. would this indicate we have to x2 these or x - (how many times it was in that zip) ..

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I was just wondering that myself.

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somebody called Jay Bee is going to be playing at the Minnesota Music Cafe on 8/24...doesn't seem to match any of the MO coords though...[/url]

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Each address should have a relatively unique nine-digit code. You can see this by checking the map for a particular zip code, and then increasing/decreasing the last number of the code by one digit. It will produce a slightly different location on the map.

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