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jessickah
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I'm glad you posted that new 4chan.

I clicked around on it last night, and some how got to posts of deformed and creepy babies.

It was that point that I realized, no, 4chan is not a site for me.

I guess at this point, there's nothing to do but wait around. It seems like the venues are extremely active between 7:30pm till about 2am in EST. With almost nothing going on the rest of the day.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:42 pm
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Glitter_Poo
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Yesterday, he at least was responding to e-mails and making notes on the flickr pointing out people on the right and wrong tracks.

I received a reply from him around 1pm yesterday, and I've e-mailed him a few times today, and received nothing. So, it seems he's just not around today for some reason. Maybe because he was so active last night...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:47 pm
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jessickah
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Yeah, I guess everyone exhausted him last night.


Or maybe something fantastic is going to happen later and he's getting everything together.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:48 pm
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ashes of lovers
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<hatesandwich> 11/20 -> 99053245 // 7/20 -> 55555555 // 3/20 -> 11151981 // Enjoy. -P!R

From IRC, just a bit ago...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:07 pm
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Just a quick point, there's no way the notes could have been written any earlier than 1995, because that's when Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (Smashing Pumpkins album with both Zero and Bullet With Butterfly Wings) came out.

Awesome album, but messed up in a lot of ways, too. Kind of like P!R. Or R. Whichever.

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Zephonith
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Chatlog of the IRC chat where we got the last 3 codes can be found here - http://zip.4chan.org/x/res/744780.html#745403

Make up your own minds on the hatesandwich/P!R thing.

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Glitter_Poo
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New Flickr Note on Note4 pointing to mylaptopisevil's "Ben Celebrity Theory"

http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/1119364.html?thread=107877764#t107877764

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I think I know what P stands for. That is, if hatesandwich is in fact P!R. In the IRC chat, after he said his piece, we started throwing around guesses as to what it could be. I guessed "Puppetmaster or Puzzlemaster" and I had this private chat with him right after:
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9:45 AM hatesandwich (Private):<Zephonith> Maybe Puppetmaster or Puzzlemaster.
9:45 AM Zephonith: Yes?
9:45 AM Zephonith: I was right?
9:46 AM Zephonith: Err, I tend towards Puzzlemaster though, seeing as it's an ARG term more.
9:46 AM hatesandwich: I'd suggest running those terms against everything that's been said. That should be all the confirmation you require.
9:47 AM Zephonith: I admit, it's hard to believe anyone could have gone this far without getting it at all.
9:47 AM Zephonith: Everything... oh man, that's a lot.
9:48 AM Zephonith: Well, bitching about it won't get it done any earlier, I suppose.
9:48 AM hatesandwich: Well, atleast in regards to what has been said about the definition.
9:49 AM Zephonith: Part of me is still disappointed it wasn't Paulsen Razz
9:50 AM Zephonith: Oh great, I have to trawl through LJ. I hate their comment thread interface.
9:50 AM Zephonith: Sorry, shouldn't be ungrateful.
9:51 AM hatesandwich: Their insight is superior to all venues, I have seen.
9:51 AM Zephonith: Yeah, they're really getting into the psychological aspect of it.
9:51 AM hatesandwich: I'll consolate your Paulsen theory, though. In later days.
9:52 AM Zephonith: Kind of funny that each forum has its own strengths, but I guess that's why the separate venues huh?
10:19 AM Zephonith: Hmm, after rereading the Livejournal Comm, Puppetmaster makes far more sense. We've only really had the 5 Series as puzzles after all.
10:20 AM Zephonith: I find this post in particular points me in that direction: http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/1119364.html?thread=107443332#t107443332
10:20 AM Zephonith: Well, email.
10:21 AM hatesandwich: Makes sense to me.
10:21 AM Zephonith: And the emails received in this thread too, actually. http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/1119364.html?thread=107437956#t107437956

Of course, this only holds up if we take hatesandwich on IRC to in fact be P!R, and I'm a bit of a doubting Thomas about it, but certainly P = Puppetmaster makes a lot of sense.

Thoughts?

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Vandabo
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@Glitter_poo

On the LJ forum you asked about P being a Prophet, and if anyone had speculated about that or not. Well, I did on the EA thread, and I sent P!R a message asking if he considered himself a prophet (sent it yesterday), to which I got no reply.
It also still says "Vandabo doesn't" on that flickr note, so unless he just hasn't been paying attention over at EA and/or hasn't bothered to update that note, I'm guessing that nothing I've said over there has rung true yet.

The only reply I got to asking him about P was that all my questions would be answered by the nature of P's name. This does lend some creedence to the IRC chat, where hatesandwich says something similar about P's name being the answer to the questions.

edit: Now that I've seen the above post, it could well be true that P is for Puppetmaster, especially since it could be that he is controlling Robert like a puppet. The only problem I have with it is that it sounds so meta.

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Glitter_Poo
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Vandabo wrote:
@Glitter_poo

On the LJ forum you asked about P being a Prophet, and if anyone had speculated about that or not. Well, I did on the EA thread, and I sent P!R a message asking if he considered himself a prophet (sent it yesterday), to which I got no reply.
It also still says "Vandabo doesn't" on that flickr note, so unless he just hasn't been paying attention over at EA and/or hasn't bothered to update that note, I'm guessing that nothing I've said over there has rung true yet.

The only reply I got to asking him about P was that all my questions would be answered by the nature of P's name. This does lend some creedence to the IRC chat, where hatesandwich says something similar about P's name being the answer to the questions.


Thanks for clarifying that. It was just a thought, but definitely after reading the IRC excerpt above, if hatesandwich is in fact our guy, Zeph could be on the right track.

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Zephonith
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I'm torn on whether he means "Puppetmaster" in a meta kind of way - that is, the person controlling this entire game. Which would make the "Sort of" Mary comment make sense - he's writing all of the characters so of course he's "Sort of" Mary.

On the other hand, the "Puppetmaster" could be a sort of Master/Dominant personality among the multiple personalities, of which Robert and possibly everyone else is only a small part of. Which would sort of make it seem that Mary is also part of the same entity.

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Vandabo
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Man, even in the time it took me to edit my above post the conversation changed.

I think the dominant personality thing rings true, but I also worry about how meta the Puppetmaster thing is. Either way, I'm not sure how much it helps us right now.

EDIT:

The notes on a couple of the flickr pages (the one for SA and EA and Unfiction) have disappeared. Hopefully these will be updated with new confirmations of theories.

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the_oreo
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It makes sense, but I have trouble believing that hatesandwich is really him. That one time where he e-mailed out the code and it took a while for the goon to post it - didn't he specifically say he wouldn't reissue the code, only expose who he sent it to?

There's plenty of people he could have sent those 4 codes to, but then again maybe he was just worried about being pressed for time.

I wish he'd e-mail somebody and confirm/deny this...! x_x

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Vandabo
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the_oreo wrote:
It makes sense, but I have trouble believing that hatesandwich is really him. That one time where he e-mailed out the code and it took a while for the goon to post it - didn't he specifically say he wouldn't reissue the code, only expose who he sent it to?

There's plenty of people he could have sent those 4 codes to, but then again maybe he was just worried about being pressed for time.

I wish he'd e-mail somebody and confirm/deny this...! x_x


P!R did expose which goon didn't post his piece, and the goon eventually logged on again and posted it. P!R didn't repost it.

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the_oreo
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Yeha that's what I mean....why didn;t he just send the last 4 codes to people and then call them out if they didn't post them in turn? Why post them himself?

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