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[TRAILHEAD?] Zetria Atrian and the Sparrow-Clam
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natas
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 		Ok, I took the string of green numbers and transposed them all to letters. I then used rot 1 - rot 25 on it. There is the word HINT in every even-numbered ROT except ROT 16. Why is this. or am I doing something goofy?

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 		Re: [PUZZLE] primes0.png
partial solve
drizjr wrote:
The image has four visible layers. Three of them are text. The background looks like anime "Gundam SEED".
It's text (the best I make out):
Quote:
I don't think you have the eyes but I won't kill you.. don't worry.
I want to meet you, Kira.
Having the eyes...? What does that mean?
Mentioning the eyes on a video that the whole world would see.
Is this person an idiot?



FWIW, the background is from the manga "Death Note," and is from a scene where Misa, aka 2nd Kira, is trying to communicate with Kira through videotapes and Kira (aka Light) is attempting to dissect the information while pretending to work with L, the detective trying to catch Kira.
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natas wrote:
Ok, I took the string of green numbers and transposed them all to letters. I then used rot 1 - rot 25 on it. There is the word HINT in every even-numbered ROT except ROT 16. Why is this. or am I doing something goofy?


I would guess ROT-16 or even numbers to be our big hint.

Also, note the request (apparently by ssc) for encrypted communication. Whenever or however you contact them should involve a puzzle. (Just don't get the other NPC's nervous.)
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 		[UPDATE] Blog - June 18
A new blog post by a new character; Samavah Tehryuin.
Quote:
Exiles at Large - Visions

I have heard stories of other races who come upon dreams as they sleep. Some consider them visions of great portent, some consider them the restless stirrings of the mind at rest. Those of our race, of course, tend toward the former explanation. After all, Zetria Atrian herself was said to have gained knowledge from the very rocks beneath her feet. I believe that true visions, true expressions of our latent heritage are few and far between...this puts me as, well, someone at odds with many of my colleagues. Nevertheless, if someone comes to me with a dream, a thought that they never believed their own mind could think...It is my job to assist them in understanding it and dealing with it. I almost find it more interesting when the dream is not really a vision, because then it says more about the person who saw it, instead of something outside them...

--Samavah Tehryuin

Wed, 18 Jun 08 02:31:37 -0400 - 0 REPLIES


**********************
A thought about the hint...

It's interesting that the hint uses numbers for a Lo Shu square (it's sum of the numbers in each row, column and diagonal = 15).
Code:
n - 6 l - 7 t - 2
f - 1 x - 5 j - 9
p - 8 l - 3 r - 4
       ...t
           


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 		[PUZZLE] square0.png
Progress
Using the list that Kender posted here
for the letters in each box and subtracting the number from the magic square, like this...
Code:
F - 4  J - 9  E - 2


K - 3  K - 5  B - 7



? - 8  V - 1  K - 6

gives...
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bachfu?ue
bach fugue
(That unidentified image may be Jesse Owens, for the O.)

The result of typing that into the query box is different, in that the QUERYRESULT appears on top of the page rather tham a new page. It took me awhile to check the source code to find...

pxxmfxatfnuumxwncqnxcqnabfxwcjmvrcrckdcfnwnnmvrwmbxohxda
ljurknabcjhcdwnmoxaodacqnarwbcadlcrxwboaxvcqnurxwbvxdcq
nvrivyvivnvyrmvsvveyvivjzetvkyvwzijkjgczkjzetvbr
ccfdrijnfiujnvivtfiilgkvunvbefnkyrkvmvipgifscvdz
jrefggfiklezkpreukyvuvjvikfwwvijdrepgifscvdjjfyv
cgljtirtbkyvjyvccfwflijftzvkpreucvkkyvkilkyxifn
100111116109105100

It's late here, I'm slowly working on the decode, but I wanted to share.

eta:
I don't know what the number at the end is, but the rest of the text is half rot 17 and half rot 9. The text decodes to
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good work well done the others wont admit it but we need minds of your caliber stay tuned for further instructions from the lions mouth

we are here we have been here since the first split since kallomars words were corrupted we know that every problem is an opportunity and the desert offers many problems so help us crack the shell of our society and let the truth grow


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 		drizjr, I <3 you so much.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Those numbers (possibly combined with some meta information - I can't help it if I've dealt with the PM before) divide into sets of three, which means ASCII table time - which gives us "dotmid". And, lo, putting a dot between bach and fugue seems to load a page as well. (No idea if it changes anything, as I'm on the Wii, which does not do the source code thing.)


Also:
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lions.mouth brings us ssc>query not found - I think we have our potential info dump site.


EDIT: I'm an idiot.

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dotmid as in MIDI file: http://www.exilearchive.com/bachfugue.mid

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 		Brillant, vidstudent! Funny, I was reading your posts on the blog and thinking, "I <3 that vidstudent." Smile

It may be Morse code at the end of that midi. Transcribing it isn't making much sense to me, but it sounds like either...

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-.. .. .-. ... - .- ... -.- - DIRSTASKT
or
-.. .. .-. ... - .- ... -.-- DIRSTASY


Do either of those mean anything?

eta: Just for info... The Bach piece is Toccata and Fugue in D minor.
When jedittor dropped the T from your name, "vidsudent! good to hear from you...uh...is it vidstudent? crap, we might have been saying it wrong all this time...<snip>", it had me wondering if a letter needed to be omitted somewhere. It's interesting, to me, how close toccata is to staccato. hmmm
P.S. I also think it's great that the Exiles named their vidtraps after you, vidstudent. Smile

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drizjr wrote:

When jedittor dropped the T from your name, "vidsudent! good to hear from you...uh...is it vidstudent? crap, we might have been saying it wrong all this time...<snip>", it had me wondering if a letter needed to be omitted somewhere. It's interesting, to me, how close toccata is to staccato. hmmm
P.S. I also think it's great that the Exiles named their vidtraps after you, vidstudent. Smile


The only letter in staccato and not in toccata is s.

As for the vidtraps, it impressed me, too. I like to think that the Marine Corps taught me *something*. Wink

Now, as for the Morse code:
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It's the latter. Let me add a space and see if it helps: DIR STASY


Okay, okay, here we go:

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http://www.exilearchive.com/stasy

Today's word is apostasy.

We have some focus on Book 2, a few lines involving trust and aims, a line of text to decode, and a secret little input box. Have fun!

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 		I had to look that one up.
Quote:
apostasy = Abandonment of one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause.

From wiki
Quote:
Apostasy <snip> is the formal abandonment or renunciation of one's religion, especially if the motive is deemed unworthy. In a technical sense, as used sometimes by sociologists without the pejorative connotations of the word, the term refers to renunciation and criticism of, or opposition to one's former religion. One who commits apostasy is an apostate, or one who apostatises.

Here for the archives:
Code:
Index of /stasy

      Name                    Last modified      Size  Description   
      Parent Directory                             -   
      apostasy__010108_00.txt 13-Mar-2008 12:06   51   
      apostasy__032008_00.txt 20-Mar-2008 20:45  175   
      apostasy__061908_00.txt 19-Jun-2008 23:12  1.3K 
      isostasy__010108_00.txt 13-Mar-2008 12:07   86   
      stasy.php               19-Jun-2008 23:31  1.9K 


* http://www.exilearchive.com/stasy/apostasy__010108_00.txt has this line of code...
Quote:
xjqezgjwywhnsfqmjvjmvzkhjgozwtwoggjisfkrwqmjlmkvaug

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Decoded with Kender's Vigenere Guesser
Key: ssc
fromhereweplanourtruthsfromhereweorganizeourjustice
adding spaces and punctuation :
From here we plan our truths. From here we organize our justice.


* http://www.exilearchive.com/stasy/apostasy__032008_00.txt
One long line of text:
Quote:
it is a strange thing to recruit without knowing...how can we find those who are sympathetic? what layers of secrecy are necessary? when can we say, enough! now i trust you...

* http://www.exilearchive.com/stasy/apostasy__061908_00.txt

Quote:
"And here we come to a contradiction, my student. A foundation, while
admittedly used every day, is not thought of or considered with any great
frequency. You had begun your speech by praising the virtues of divination and
its ability to replace thought, but now you say that it in fact encourages and
even requires thought."

"My teacher, I have witnessed many instances where the information provided by
divination has changed a life with its insights. Yet I believe that you are
correct in your assertions. How can I resolve this contradiction?"

"My student, you are finally showing some intelligence, yet your memory is
flawed. Do you not recall that doubt is a necessary component of philosophical
inquiry? Do you believe that a contradiction can truly stop all thought? I
feel pleased that we have come to an irreconcilable impasse. I have always
said that confusion is the first step on the road to enlightenment."

"Thank you, Kallomar, old teacher, old friend. Thank you for showing me this
area of doubt and the perils of divination in our lives."

THE SECOND BOOK OF MINIMER RANDIBONE - THE BOOK OF KALLOMAR RIDDITUM - END
1048


if you want to contribute take the (time) (machine) back to the (year snow changed the bulletin board system % 100)



That last line is curious.

* http://www.exilearchive.com/stasy/isostasy__010108_00.txt
Quote:
The Words lead to chaos.

Chaos cannot preserve the Words.

How to reach isostasy?

Definition: isostasy - n. Equilibrium in the earth's crust such that the forces tending to elevate landmasses balance the forces tending to depress landmasses.

Info:Wiki link for isostasy

* http://www.exilearchive.com/stasy/stasy.php
I'm uncertain which text field is for a password. I'm guessing it's the bottom one. So far lionsmouth, isostasy and apostasy don't work as passwords.

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 		OK... so, now I'm thinkin' that the password will be a number. After all, haven't we been imputing a seven digit, anti-spam number for each post up to now?
I think the solution is somewhere in...
Quote:
if you want to contribute take the (time) (machine) back to the (year snow changed the bulletin board system % 100)
Perhaps the first four digits are a year of some bad snow storm, and the last three digits are 100?

Onto another matter. I've never been very good at "story so far" posts. I tend to get overwhelmed by detail. But, since there have been a couple of end games recently, and maybe a few players looking for something new, here's my feeble attempt.

Story So Far
Many players received parts of a very elaborate rabbit hole of multiple emails and postcards. When compiled and decoded, they lead us to exilearchive.com.
There we found a community of exiles struggling to survive in a desolate desert world environment. Using what they call the [[System]], they begin communication with us ; dubbed the idea-web people, via the blog feature.
The [System] also has a query page, which holds "The Books of Minimer Randibone"; the exiles' philosophical guide, some insights into their world, and a number of puzzles.

Strange coded messages interrupt the emails sent by the [System]. Pranks, spam on the blog system, and setbacks such as the lockstone, appear to be the work of a hidden faction of the Exiles' society calling themselves the ssc (staccato setback cabal). These methods are their way of protesting the core values of the society, as they believe that the original version of "The Book of Minimer Randibone" has been altered to what it is today. They want our help.

We are now on the verge of being able to contact the ssc directly through http://www.exilearchive.com/stasy/stasy.php (if we can figure out the password.)

How do the philosophies differ?
Can we be ambassadors between these two factions to better their world?

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back to the (year snow changed the bulletin board system % 100)


I think that this may be referring to this. I've tried combinations of the date and names. Nothing has worked yet. Hope this helps us out.
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 		Just popping my head in here. The % says MOD (modulo) to me. So, if it was say 1978, 1978 % 100 = 78.

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 		% function
I can't get 78 through the password, whether it be numbers or letters (with or without hyphen). That said, you have to be on the right track, Mr. Toasty - could you explain this modulo function whilst I look up PHP online and see what it considers the % sign to be? (Seeing as, well, the entry boxes are all PHP pages, it's likely a PHP function we're working with.)
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 		Great contributions, ilikepucks and MrToasty. Thanks!

so...hmmm. If (year snow changed the bulletin board system % 100) =78, what about (time) and (machine)? Perhaps they, too, represent numbers.
Is it possible to code a password to use the current time? That would give us four more digits. Then we'd only need one to represent (machine); that is, if this password is a seven digit number.
*chin rub*

eta: At "View page info" forms tab, the password's "current value" is eight asterisks. Is that significant? (Can you tell that I know very little about such things? Confused )

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 		Re: % function
vidstudent wrote:
...could you explain this modulo function...

The modulus function merely gives you the remainder of a quotient. In the 1978 example, 1978/100=19 in integer math, and 1978%100=78, the remainder.

I was wondering if could be related to a Unix timestamp. For example, Feb 16, 1978, the official CBBS date, has a Unix time of 256435200 for 12am. If the operator was / instead of %, that alone would give you 2564352. Dunno

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