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[Email] James Mutters - 26 June 2008
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Khaos
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ariock wrote:
I've made a map showing the starting point of the 3-circuit labyrinth, a couple of guides showing approximately 5.51 stadia, and a line 5.51 stadia at an angle of Zeus 12 from the start point.

The interesting thing about that last line is that, based on the design of a standard 3-circuit labyrinth, the end point should be somewhere on that line...slightly under halfway along it. This is assuming we don't have to draw an actual labyrinth on the city streets. Here's a link.

http://tinyurl.com/6ln5ra

I'm going to make it publicly editable.


Er... isn't the lab supposed to be the exact same one that MrJudkins did ? It would make sense as Theo and the Agonothetai are working the same way but in reverse.
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 		Three cheers for Giskard! I'm glad I got at least parts of the message right.

So - what are WE to do now?
(1) Go and get the ring (GO, Mr. Judkins!).
(2) Mislead Theo's remaining troups about the ring's location by placing the decoy message on the answering machine.
--> Decoy message shouldn't only be giving wrong direction, but also better NOT mention the Tattoo Museum, because that's quite easy to associate with Wellington.


What do we want THEM (Theo) to do?
Option A: They simply should be out of our way for some days, so Mr. Judkins can go and pick up the rign without risk.
Option B: ADDITIONALLY we want to lead them somewhere where we can watch them trying to get the ring, and thus maybe expose another Theo agent.

dreamerblue wrote:
If we leave a message directing someone to such-and-such a location, I suggest we actually leave a fake ring at that location. That way, the person doing the pickup will think they have accomplished their mission (here's hoping the person doing the pickup has not guarded the ring before and doesn't know what it looks like) and we will be able to continue with ours.


This requires that we find the ring first and THEN imitate it (if possible).
Moreover, it would be convenient to change "dinsdag/tuesday" on the answering machine as well, so we get a little more time to manufacture and place the fake ring ...

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 		Has anyone e-mailed Eli yet? Now that we have the message translated, now would be a good time to let him know what the message says and what we intend to do.

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 		OK, I'll mail him ...

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Khaos wrote:
Er... isn't the lab supposed to be the exact same one that MrJudkins did ? It would make sense as Theo and the Agonothetai are working the same way but in reverse.


? We know this labyrinth starts at the Tattoo Museum. MrJudkins' labyrinth neither started nor ended at that location. So, I'd say it isn't supposed to be the same as MrJudkins because it can't be.
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 		What I wrote to Eli:

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Dear Mr. Hunt,

since James has announced that he would forward the news concerning the Theo voicemail message even to you, I suppose you are informed about the latest developments. James had send around the mp3 file to his (supposed) Theo recruits about 16 hours ago, i.e. in the middle of the night for us Europeans. Because I had to leave for work and only had a short lunchbreak today, all I could contribute to solve this puzzle was to determine that the first part of the message was in Dutch and scribble down a first (albeit a very rough) transcription, while ariock, dreamerblue and hmrpita figured out the Hesiod reference of the English part. Pita also managed to get hold of a native Dutch speaker, Giskard, who kindly provided us with a reliable transcription and translation. Here they are:

(transcription and translation)

As you certainly already have figured out by yourself, the English bit refers to Hesiod's "Theogony" and probably points to "Sphinx" as the secret password. The ring's location appears to be Wellington (where the Tattoo Museum is located), where the brave Mr. Judkins is our loyal contact.

Our team is still discussing what to do with the voicemail message now, respectively what decoy message to leave. Should we simply misdirect the Theo agents anywhere to give Mr. Judkins time to pick up the ring? Or should we misdirect them to a certain place (where we can watch them and blow the cover of another TheOrist, maybe even provide them with a false ring?)? Should we try to find a native speaker (maybe Giskard) to record a completely different message - or try to edit the existing soundfile since a change of the speaker's voice would be too suspicious?

Your advice and comments would be most welcome!

Kind regards,
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ariock wrote:
I've made a map showing the starting point of the 3-circuit labyrinth, a couple of guides showing approximately 5.51 stadia, and a line 5.51 stadia at an angle of Zeus 12 from the start point.

The interesting thing about that last line is that, based on the design of a standard 3-circuit labyrinth, the end point should be somewhere on that line...slightly under halfway along it. This is assuming we don't have to draw an actual labyrinth on the city streets. Here's a link.

http://tinyurl.com/6ln5ra

I'm going to make it publicly editable.

I like the proposed labyrinth you have, starting at the tattoo museum, and ending near Left Bank. But the 12 Zeus bugs me. The roads just aren't at a 12 Zeus angle.

Could Dewaldewaard have meant 12 Demeter (aka 12 degrees east of due North)? Would that line up the labyrinth to the roads in Wellington?

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sapagoo wrote:
I like the proposed labyrinth you have, starting at the tattoo museum, and ending near Left Bank. But the 12 Zeus bugs me. The roads just aren't at a 12 Zeus angle.

Could Dewaldewaard have meant 12 Demeter (aka 12 degrees east of due North)? Would that line up the labyrinth to the roads in Wellington?


Thanks.

I think if we second guess them, it could be anything...and that way lies madness. Wink

One of the reasons I laid it out like this is that I did a search for "gallery" over this map, and there is a gallery at this destination (Offbeat Originals). Also, it's the only gallery I could see that is within the 5.51 stadia radius, while keeping the "cross" as close to 12 Zeus as possible.
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ariock wrote:
I think if we second guess them, it could be anything...and that way lies madness. Wink

UTTER MADNESS! Flaming Nutter


Ok, so, I am going to summarize for my own self, anyway, what I understand we (meaning YOU all) have figured out thus far:

Giskard's translation from Dutch to English plus the English bit at the end:

Theo's mp3 message wrote:
This is Theo agent Dewaldewaard with a report about the transport of La Sesa Ringo, ring number one. The former location of number One was 35,402 stadia in the direction of Hestia 12 from Omphalos number 8. From there, I have shifted the ring 13,550 stadia in the direction of Hestia 7.8. From next Tuesday the ring will be hidden in clear daylight in a gallery in the center of a three circuit left-running labyrinth with a width of 5.51 stadia, where the entrance of the labyrinth falls together with the Tattoo Museum and the cross of the labyrinth is located under an angle of Zeus 12. In order to get hold of the ring, you have to give the ring keeper a password.

Tell the ring keeper the name, according to Hesiod, of the first monster born from the two-headed dog and his sister, who were both born to the mate of the last-born son of our present pan-cosmological state.


So, it seems to me that a Wellington resident (mr.judkins, _june, et al) will go to one of these galleries and find the "ring keeper," who may be a docent (if it is, indeed, a person at all), and give the password, which is (we think) the Sphinx.

The ring shall be carried away to a safe house, documented and studied, and perhaps a copy shall be created.

The mp3 message needs to be changed. If we want to re-record it, our good friend, Giskard, might be able to help with that. I am volunteering him before asking him, so it isn't for sure. He would have to do some mighty fine acting on the English part, because his accent is very clean and nothing like the dude's on the recording.

Am I missing anything?
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 		For what it's worth, my Dutch friend translated the message the same as above- just several hours later Flaming Nutter

I can't wait to see this thing Very Happy
And to hear more of what's on that answering machine.

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 		I am going to brag here, because I get so few opportunities. I was looking at Ariock's googlemap and noticed his labyrinth was right-running, rather than left-running, as the instructions say it should be. I have alerted him and he is going to fix it.

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...the ring will be hidden in clear daylight in a gallery in the center of a three circuit left-running labyrinth...

My eyes keep being drawn to Te Aro Park, because it is outdoors and contains art, so gallery enough for me. If this is the place, the password might present a challenge, though.


I am also wondering why this message is mostly in Dutch, with English at the end? I mean, why not all Dutch? There is only the slightest pause between the Dutch and English parts.
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 		We need the Decoy Message very very soon like today Sometime before we get anymore in this.

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hmrpita wrote:
I am also wondering why this message is mostly in Dutch, with English at the end? I mean, why not all Dutch? There is only the slightest pause between the Dutch and English parts.

Maybe it's a security measure? TheO might have set it up so two agents would have to cooperate to be able to move the ring?

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hmrpita wrote:
I am going to brag here, because I get so few opportunities. I was looking at Ariock's googlemap and noticed his labyrinth was right-running, rather than left-running, as the instructions say it should be. I have alerted him and he is going to fix it.


Well, I fixed it, but can't get near the actual art galleries anymore.

mrjudkins needs to scope the area out. And maybe hmrpita can try and play around with the map.

ETA:
Using techniques pioneered by hmrpita, I think I may have found a likely candidate:
Mark Hutchins Gallery, 216 Willis St
Hours: Tuesday - Friday 10:30 am - 5:30 pm Saturday 11:00 am - 3:00 pm
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Soda wrote:
We need the Decoy Message very very soon like today Sometime before we get anymore in this.


Should i do another decoy message, or is my last attempt good enough ?
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