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The Cloverfield ARG, as far as I know, is DEAD!
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Pr0LiFiX
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The Cloverfield ARG, as far as I know, is DEAD!

There haven't been any worthy news or updates concerning the ARG for a while since that investigative report was announced. And even then, not a lot of questions were answered. But then again, JJ Abrams and Matt Reeves are still pitching ideas for the sequel so I doubt there's going to be much progess for the Cloverfield ARG. I mean they said that if they didn't find anything concrete to use, then most likely they wouldn't follow-up with a sequel. This prompts me to ask, what keeps you coming back? There aren't much news or updates other than the actor's birthdays (whoop-dee-doo! How old are you?) and news regarding DVD and Blu-Ray sales. These forums are a mess. I mean, I've been part of multiple forums and I'm surprised to see that this one has no active moderators, is barely active, and has half of the posts made completely irrelevant.

Face it, guys. The Cloverfield ARG, as far as I know, it's dead. We already know what the monster is. Almost everyone from the main cast in Cloverfield died in the movie, excluding Lily (Jason's girlfriend). JJ Abrams is doing the exact same thing with LOST, and frankly, I hate it. He creates so many f***ing loopholes and mysterious events and ideas to take note of that you get literally lost trying to speculate everything until you find something concrete. And even when you do, the marketing team throws something else that when you dig into, it completely contradicts what you find earlier. What the hell, JJ? Man, I used to be a big fan of LOST. But after so many seasons it just gets annoying figuring out so much that you forget what the hell happened before. That Dharma-logo cross-marketing thing in the opening credits for Cloverfield probably started it. I looked into it, saw alongside other fans that there was a logo hidden in one-single frame and everyone in the ARG seemed to go crazy when they thought they found ties to LOST. It's not even fun theorizing anymore if we aren't left with conclusive facts.

In closing, I think the ARG should have ended when we figured out what the monster was. Everything else, I think it'd be best to interpret without adding more loopholes, missing files and sightings of Teddy etc. Better yet, try and close the ARG with all of the missing pieces. This ARG has dragged on long enough without any new concrete information or relevant updates. It's fun to look into the ARG for a couple weeks, months etc. But when it gets to over a year and nothing really has been solved, then yeah -- I'm going to have to call bulls*** on this whole ARG thing. Don't get me wrong, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A SEQUEL!!! This ARG, none of it was really prominent in the movie. The majority of the stuff we found in the ARG was hardly shown in the film. But it was a good movie, nonetheless.

I don't know, I'm done with the whole Cloverfield ARG thing. It's just not as fun as when it first started out trying to find out what the monster was, when we all knew that it couldn't have been leaked during the release of the initial Cloverfield teaser trailer. But we did it anyways, because the trailer was bad-a**. And mentioning Voltron and Cthulu was always satisfying...just to see some people get riled up. As if defending something as a cult-classic (movie) will get you somewhere in the end. It's a monster movie, a cult-phenomenon. Like I said before, come on JJ, wrap this thing up already. ^_^

I guess you can say that I love the movie, but this ARG is a drag (literally).
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paulisnofun
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This was my first ARG. I knew about the Lost Experience, and the Dark Knight ARG, but didn't follow along. I am speculating here, but I imagine that the first trailer played before Transformers brought a lot of people to their first ARG. If it is dead, which I imagine it is, it was a lot of fun.
Was this anyone else's first?

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Pr0LiFiX
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paulisnofun wrote:
This was my first ARG. I knew about the Lost Experience, and the Dark Knight ARG, but didn't follow along. I am speculating here, but I imagine that the first trailer played before Transformers brought a lot of people to their first ARG. If it is dead, which I imagine it is, it was a lot of fun.
Was this anyone else's first?

This was actually my first ARG. I only followed LOST via the episodes trying to figure out what the hell was going on throughout all of the seasons. But this Cloverfield ARG was a fun experience. At least, for me it was before the movie was released in theatres. When it was known beforehand as 1-18-08.

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avpruler
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I agree, after first seeing the trailer for transformers, i scoured the internet until landing here, discovering ze beauty in ze ARG

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Vecheeso
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This seems to be a new thing for writers and such to do with their movies. They leave a bunch of things open ended, or they leave the ending completely open-ended. The fact of the matter is that this is LAZY. People dont like it, I mean, yes, you get tons of people to your online sites, and to your message boards, because with so much open-endedness, its up to the people to decide, however, this limits the audience.
its very hard for people to start watching a series like LOST without watching it from the beginning, so you lose audience there, plus you piss people off by not releaseing any new information to them, and only adding questions for them to ask other just-as-confused people.
the fact is, if the fans need to make most of the content in your story line, then it shows not that you are creative, but that the audience is creative, and that you are lazy.
I really hope people stop doing this, it has become a trend to leave things open-ended and it really needs to stop. If I wanted to make up my own ending, or listen to 10000 other theories of how things could have ended up, I would have just watched the first episode, and imagined all the rest, and save myself the hassle.
The big reason this upsets me is that movies like Cloverfield (which wasnt that open-ended, and didnt really need much explaining) get overshadowed by the who/what/when/where/whys that everyone has come to ask themselves for everything! Cloverfield was a great movie, and it really had almost nothing to do with the viral marketing for it, other than to make people ask more and more questions, speculate more and more, and spend a ton of time making up things that really dont matter.
I too am looking forward to a sequel, but not because I want answers, but because I want to see what else they can do without needing to explain everything.
I am still upset about the Sopranos ending, because after all the time all of the fans spent watching episode after episode, we were expected to make our own ending up. This idea, as I said, isnt creative, but lazy, and its like saying "well if we take any ending, we will piss some group off, so lets just do no ending and let everyone make up whatever they want, that way everyone is happy." but the fact is, that really just enrages EVERYONE and causes people to argue for days and hours about what was the REAL ending.
As a writer, if you leave loose ends in your story, you are a bad writer, not some creative, innovative thinker. I am very tired of people thinking this is new or creative or innovative, the choose-your-own-adventure novels have been around for quite some time, and I think people should warn their audience how long a show will run, generally, and if the endings will be open ended, or if they will leave a lot of questions up to the audience. I for one would love this, because then I would know what I was getting into: a choose your own adventure tale that I am, essentially, making myself.
I am so sorry for this rant, and I know it is slightly off topic, but I think you can understand how this kind of relates.
I believe the Cloverfield ARG is over, and, sequel or not, JJ Abrams will stay true-to-form and probably have viral marketing, story lines, and plot points left unknown and unsolved.
Again, I apologize for this rant and realize that I am only adding to the problem of speculation on open-ended things online. I just wholly dont believe in spending money on DVD box-sets 2,3,4,5 seasons worth at 50 bucks each, for a storyline that has limited continuity, plot holes, and no ending in sight, like LOST, and then getting rave reviews from people touting you as visionary and creative. Leading your audience around by the nose is like putting a carrot on a stick infront of a donkey, its cruel and unusual punishment.
I hope this post doesnt take this topic heading off topic, so I will wrap up and say that I am pretty sure the cloverfield ARG is dead, I cant wait for the sequel, and it wasnt my first ARG.
Thanks for your time
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???? huh?????

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J0shuaKane
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if this was an ARG, it was my first and alot of fun, especially for like the first 4 months were no one knew anything.

but thats just it, we have always been looking for "clues" to the next "piece", when the truth is we just got caught in the middle of advertising that was so cool we wanted it to be a game. it resembled a game, but its like all the pieces were from a different puzzle. i feel like the advertising will continue at some point, but for the ARG to be dead it had to have existed in the first place.

either that or it was very poorly thought out, ya cheese-eatin surrender monkeys.

oh yeah, remember the hammer on the slusho site? in cloverfield wasn't it operation:hammer-down? maybe they werent so sloppy...

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pegassissy
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Where've you been man...this has been dead for a LONG TIME...

And JoshuaKane im still gonna go with sloppy...very sloppy...but it wasnt an ARG so WE cant blame THEM
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And if this ARG never existed, then it cannot have a thread about it's own death, because it never happened o.0

This thread has been cancelled out by an infinite loop!

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There were too many "clues" left unresolved, no pay off. The one thing that seemingly worked was the Jamie story.

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Euchre wrote:
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agreeing 110% Very Happy


Yeah this was most certainly my first experience with any kind of ARG so congratulations to me!!! I will still put my 2cents in any form of this message board Very Happy
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Yeah. I've started checking out a few ARGs in the beginning stages, not sure exactly where, or if they'll go anywhere.

But here's to having something to do until Cloverfield 2 starts up, if and when it does!

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Wait, this was an ARG? I must have missed a memo somewhere...
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