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[SPEC] Mellisa / McKaskill dialouge
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CoffeeJedi
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Dorkmaster wrote:
Well, and my question to follow up the thoughts of Jedi, are this:

How does a ratty, weedy-type person, who essentially is a "repair man/mechanic/parts supervisor" have contacts in ONI Intel? I mean, secret contacts even... I have no idea what conclusion that the answer could create, but still, it seems a little strange that Mckaskill would have someone like that to send a secret transmission to anyway, right?


do you think McK really KNEW he was ONI, i just figured he was talking to a random soldier out there over the sub-etha, maybe the castaway was fishing for info, posing as an adrift decoy deployer to try to get info from various ships in the area... his real mission was classified, McK just happened to send the right thing.......
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Castaway

I read it as the castaway had been on the ship and Melissa knew who Weedy was talking about from the description he gave. Weedy also figured the guy was ONI, probably based as much on his contact as the fact that he was allowed on board.

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[quote="Macavity"]
Dorkmaster wrote:
I would suspect that ONI has contacts in the crews of all UNSC ships, who have instructions to report anything unusual that they've come across (mysterious artefacts, derelict ships, strange rouins, activity on dead planets . . . ).

Mr. Weedy McCaskill may be one of those ONI contacts, who's in touch with an ONI agent.

I agree with the first paragraph, but the second doesn't wash. Consider McCaskill's reaction when caught: he knows he's done something inappropriate, and he seems desperate to appease the Operator when she tells him he penalty. He wouldn't have reacted this way if he had high-level authorization.

Also consider the way the Operator approaches it - a good kid who did something wrong, but not punishable, and effectively exploited to leverage information from him. She couldn't have approached it this way if her end goal was knowingly interfering with high-level intel activity.

Taken together, these points suggest that McCaskill thought he was engaging in gossip, and that he was considering taking a peek at the huge object in the hold. He thought his behavior would have been inappropriate but harmless.

- David Stein

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sfsdfd wrote:
...these points suggest that McCaskill thought he was engaging in gossip, and that he was considering taking a peek at the huge object in the hold. He thought his behavior would have been inappropriate but harmless.

- David Stein


bingo, thanks david
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"Huge" object in the hold

??!

wasn't the description that it was about the size of a suitcase? Not exactly what I would call huge.

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Ah, but it was a huge suitcase. Razz

Yes, it was described as being the [URL=http://bees.netninja.com/wiki/index.php?title=Shipboard_Memories]size of a suitcase[/URL] which Rolf had to lean over to touch.
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clamatius wrote:
Ah, but it was a huge suitcase.

i see your avatar, and i can just hear Zoidberg saying that Laughing

but anyway, yeah, huge, suitcase sized, bigger than a breadbasket, whatever
the point is... was the castaway attracted to the ship because of its cargo?
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was the castaway attracted to the ship because of its cargo?


I don't think so. Seems to me the castaway was on the ship previous to the artifact. Weedy tried to send a message to him, but, in this conversation, seems to think Melissa blocked. Whether she did or not we can only speculate. Melissa, being an AI, quietly lets Weedy make this assumption without confirming or denying it.

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Seems probable that the Castaway was there after the cylinder. Of course, we don't know for sure that the unspecified ONI contact was the Castaway for sure anyway. Good odds on that spec, though.

My spec on the cylinder issue would be that the mysterious cylinder is the magical technology required to join the Halo story to the real-world story. After all, as Arthur C. Clarke once said "Any sufficiently advanced technology is undistinguishable from magic". There's definitely a lot of magic required for the link. Seems possible that the cylinder was heading for an ONI warehouse, "Raiders of the Lost Ark"-style as McKaskill says, when something happened which resulted in Operator & co. showing up on Earth.

{edit}sigh, simultaneous posts messed up the reference at the start.{/edit}
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It's not clear that Melissa did block the message going out forever. She did want to intimidate McKaskill into telling her who the recipient was first, though.
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I think the queen is writing in the ILB webpage.

This may be slightly off-topic, yet on-topic if you read through...

(Bold just means connection to this thread so I don't get in trouble Sad )

If you go to ilovebees.com/hives.html, there are some words that read "that task". On the "honey" page there is some text that reads, "of my most basic functions. With a more comprehensive and goal-oriented vision, I am now overseeing ". This is all in the same color as the email recieved from ladybee777SPLAThotmail.com today in the section about the queen's diary. Therefore, I think that this could be the Queen's text. If you switch the two phrases around and put them together you get...

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of my most basic functions. With a more comprehensive and goal-oriented vision, I am now overseeing that task


I think this is talking about the Queen making the roads and stuff (as expressed in the email).

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I think a trouting may be in order. It's the Operator's text alright, only the actual context is much more likely to be:

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With a more comprehensive and goal-oriented vision, I am now overseeing // the process of my own regeneration into a hybrid body

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Why would that be trout? And where did you get the other part of the sentence from?

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Point the First: Melissa and her surveillance ship almost certainly work for ONI. After all, they have an ONI Tech on board. From this we have deduced that Melissa's ship was probably the Applebee, the Lark, or another ship of the same class that wasn't at Reach during the events of the Halo novels.

Point the Second: McKaskill has been obviously hired, or conned, or talked into, spying for an "old man", quite possibly the Castaway.. Said "old man" was particularly on the lookout for things just like the one in the hold, i.e., Forerunner artifacts. That makes him ONI, as only ONI (among humans) has shown any understanding, knowledge, or comprehension of Forerunner artifacts.

Point the Third: Why, then, is ONI spying on itself? A major plot point in the Halo novels is the inter-service scheming between the different sections of ONI. Dr. Halsey and the Spartans, for instance, were Section Three. Section Two (and its leader, Col. Ackerson) are devoted to discrediting and destroying the SPARTAN project... and Section Two knows far more about Forerunner artifacts than it lets on to anyone else, including the other sections of ONI.

Conclusion: The "old man", who may well be the Castaway, works for ONI Section Two and is trying to pre-learn information about the Forerunner artifact onboard, to use in politics against other ONI sections or for whatever devious scheme Section Two has cooking.[/b]

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That is who I was thinking of. Perhaps the ONI person is Col. Ackerson.

And if the ship is the Applebee, that may be why some of the coords are pointing there. Of course, there are only some that are. Oh well, more speculation.
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