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[Blog] [Ariadne] July 16 blog entry re:Kentaro & Markus
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lhall
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 		I had another thought... maybe the reason he started TheO was simply because they failed. It was written in 1918, and the first part states:

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But if you're reading this letter, we failed - and you will not have the luxury of waiting. You will have to write your own history.

. . .

We saw the consequences of this failure. During almost three decades, Micha was haunted with sights of broken worlds (worlds torn asunder ?) and worlds crushed. And if you found this first chapter of the Codex, your world is now in danger of dying.


Maybe it's as simple as, Jorge saw what they'd done by failing (destruction of other worlds) and wanted to prevent it from happening again, by moving this Gaea world out of synchronization with the others.

It must have been a severe blow after spending 20-30 years preparing for such a rite, in a world where nobody sees a need for what you're doing or believes in it, to fail and cause destruction. The Codex was written while they were preparing, so it was a more optimistic time, I'd think.


Also, what should we ask Monica to look for, in her uncle's things? He has a big messy office full of paperwork. I thought looking for letters would be good but she might have done that already...but maybe a diary/planner or journal of some kind?
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 		[quote="lhall"]Maybe it's as simple as, Jorge saw what they'd done by failing (destruction of other worlds) and wanted to prevent it from happening again, by moving this Gaea world out of synchronization with the others.[quote]

Or by creating competitors (Theo) so that the next team will be always pushed to its maximum. (Which was one of the argument Theo invoked in its very first e-mails)
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 		Seems like I missed again something.

Do we know that the person left behind is Jorge or do we speculate that it might be him.
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 		Here goes a translation. I added the nicks of some people names in brackets, just to better understand who said what:

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Ariadne has asked for my help to try to understand and counsel about the difficult situation we are at the moment about Markus and Kentaro.

As many of you know already, Markus was, supposedly, one of the 6 allies who woke up amnesiac. He was our Thumos.

On the other hand, Kentaro, Noriko's crazy brother, revealed us that Markus is posing as the true Thumos that should have come with 2008 agonothetai. Kentaro belong to an old agonothetai group and now he is with Theo.

Ariadne asked you to send your thoughts to me about Kentaro, Markus and Theo. Is it possible that Theo was created by one of Jorge's agonothetai group?

For now, some of you have been writing me with interesting things:

About Kentaro:
It seems we agree on him being a person gone crazy in some way... He is out of himself. Is this because belonging to Theo? Julio (Tenchizard) told me he was showing the kind of fanatism in someone who has been brainwashed, and pointed out that everyone joining Theo seems to be behaving contrary to their ancient strength. What happened to Kentaro? What does he mean with "Since Renata saw the light... no, the darkness..."?

Nevertheless, the most important thing about Kentaro is that he knows things, much more than what he has told us. And at this moment, gathering information is the most important thing for us.

About Markus:
He has written in his blog a message some hours ago, saying he is with us, that he wants to help us... and he seems sincere.

Most of you agree that Markus seems to suffer some kind of double personality. Uwe told me that maybe his personality has split, and one side he wants to help the Six, but the other side wants to follow his Theo self. What do you think about this? Could it be that he really felt what he wrote in his blog, but that his other personality could take over at any time? As Jasper wonders... is it all right to send him as our runner?

As a Sophrosune, I offer myself to mediate with Markus. I understand that he is the one I've least been speaking to, but maybe that's a good point for us so he really listen to us. But before of that, I'd like that we tried to get all the data we can gather. We can't rush before making our judgment or taking a decission. And even less when we have so much on stake.

About Theo's origin:
Ariadne has the theory that one of the six in the group from 1920, Jorge's one, was Theo's creator. How could we know if that is true, and in that case, who was it?

Julio suggests it would be interesting to know what could be the innger strength of Theo's founder.

And Laura (Lhall) has found an importante reference in the Lost Ring Codex:
"We didnt find any of our parallel selves in this Gaea world. None of us could do so but Jorge, who remembers his own world as a Gaea world"

She wonders if it is possible he had a parallel self in a Gaea world who decided to stay behind. And as the Gaea world are rare, it's supposedly possible that our world has an iteration of his friends and family... could this mean something? Of course, it's a breaking point from the rest of the Six from 1920... I get the chilss thyinking Jorge could have something to do with Theo, we should try to investigate some more to know if we are following an interesting clue. I still have access to my great grandfather's office... but I don't know if there are still things there.

Lastly, we should have to search for a motive to found Theo. Maybe, when we know it we can understand them more, and use it as a reaso to try to make Markus and Kentaro help us. If we can show them their beliefs to be wrong, will it be easeir we can make them come back to us?

Send me your ideas or theories to my mail (here goes monica's mail)


So, there you go, I hope it's useful

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 		I wonder...
If he really has multiple personality disorder, I wonder if it's possible to bring his other half, the one that sides with TheO, out? They do that a lot in therapy, to try to understand both parts of the person (not that I would know....Wink)
Perhaps then we could learn what his motives are.
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 		Thanks for the translation- the part that was really confusing me was Monica's summary of what lhall had said. Is the suggestion that TheO was started by a parallel self of Jorge? The question "is possible he had a parallel self in a Gaea world who decided to stay behind"? is what I'm wondering about. Are two ideas being combined? Jorge stayed behind, or Jorge met a parallel self, who (naturally?) stayed behind, and that person started TheO? As opposed to Jorge staying behind and starting TheO himself? If Jorge's parallel self was the one who started TheO, would that be a self he met while here? If he met himself here, it would have to be that he came to a "no" branch of his world. Otherwise, his parallel self wouldn't be here to be met, eh?

So, (and maybe we already know that Markus is from a different world, not one like ours so Trout if necessary) what if Markus hasn't got a split personality: we're just dealing with two Markus selves here? The TheO Markus would be on the "no" branch, already here waiting to interfere with the "yes" Markus?

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jasper wrote:
So, (and maybe we already know that Markus is from a different world, not one like ours so Trout if necessary) what if Markus hasn't got a split personality: we're just dealing with two Markus selves here? The TheO Markus would be on the "no" branch, already here waiting to interfere with the "yes" Markus?


I think the explanation for Markus' behavior is that he's a drama queen... Rolling Eyes

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 		About Markus, has he done any successful personal laby before?

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danteIL wrote:
jasper wrote:
So, (and maybe we already know that Markus is from a different world, not one like ours so Trout if necessary) what if Markus hasn't got a split personality: we're just dealing with two Markus selves here? The TheO Markus would be on the "no" branch, already here waiting to interfere with the "yes" Markus?


I think the explanation for Markus' behavior is that he's a drama queen... Rolling Eyes


What about something like total recall? I mean, Markus memories being erased, and the new Markus not wanting to be old Markus?
But the drama queen version sounds good too Razz

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