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[E-MAIL] Reed Singleton @ Dead Poems
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Karmic_Crimewave
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[E-MAIL] Reed Singleton @ Dead Poems

It's not much, but maybe it's a start....

Quote:
I appreciate your kind words. I hope everybody enjoys this book.

Thank you for your interest!

> Reed,


Original message:

Quote:
Reed, Just found your site, and I find the book a touching tribute to a loved one. I'm eagerly awaiting it's release.






edited to add: Okay...Now that my head has cleared from receiving an e-mail....This actually was sent to me four times...In a four minute span. And all from "Your Name" <webmaster@deadpoems.com>.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:10 am
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monty
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Any differences between the emails? Maybe they were sent as HTML documents?

Kind of a stretch, but odd that you would get four of the same email.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:06 pm
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dmax
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I sent
Quote:
> Kudos to you for your fascinating web site.
>
> I suspect Mr. Singleton has heard a lot more of his grandmother's life
> over the years. Would he care to share more of her interesting story?
> It would be a shame for her legacy to be lost so easily when the
> Internet can give her more of a voice now than she had while alive.
>
> Dan
and received this tonight. Love the salutation:
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Mr. Max -

Just a note - all email sent to this address is forwarded to me (Mr.
Singleton).

You're right about one thing - my grandmother did have an interesting
life.   You will find that the Dead Poems book contains more stories
about my grandmother Ann, her life, what I know of her stay at
Cambridge Mental Hospital, and what happened to her after she left
there.  I don't have time to go into more details in this reply, but I
expect the book will satisfy your curiosity.

Maybe once the book is out and I've had a chance to breathe, I might
take your suggestion to heart - I'll have to remind myself to let you
know if I ever get around to publishing another book regarding other
grandma stories!

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Reed Singleton
Dead Poems, available August 17, 2004.  Read it - you will believe!


PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:22 am
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Karmic_Crimewave
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And When asked about Ann's artwork at CMH:

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Mr. Six -

You're actually not the first person to ask me that this week.

I have looked at that website's pictures and stories, and honestly, I
can't tell you one way or another if they are about or a product of my
grandmother.

My book is due for release for sale August 17, 2004; I'm sure some of
the stories about Ann and her life (before, in, and subsequent to her
hospital stay) will satisfy your curiosity.

Thank you for your interest!

Mr. Singleton,

I've found your site, and the story of your grandmother, as well as
the book seem itself seem very touching and somberly beautiful. I
thought I might direct your attention to the following website:
http://www.cambridgementalhospital.com/ . There seems to be a strong
tie to your grandmother, however the webmaster knows nothing about her.
In particular I think you might be interested in the artwork listed
under "paitents". Could some of these be the production of your
grandmother's gift?

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Eolirin
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Quote:
I'm sorry, but I don't know the exact date or how old she was when my
grandmother was hospitalized, and the details associated with her
treatment and stay are not known to me. Understandably, it would have
been a painful, confusing time for Ann, and I can't see her wanting to
dive into hearty discussions on that subject after they were put behind
her.

Which reminds me - have you read my website on the Dead Poems book,
available for purchase August 17? I have included stories and
information regarding Ann's stay at Cambridge Mental Hospital. Perhaps
you or some of your classmates may find it worth reading and
referencing in your mental institution projects!

> Hi, I'm working on a project for summer school about Mental
Institutions and
> their treament of patients during the 1930s-1960s. If you could give
me some
> more information about Ann Starling I'd appreciate it. In particular
I'd
> like to know how old she was when she was hospitalized, how long her
stay
> was, and to the best of your knowledge, what sort of treatment she
recieved.
>
> Thank you in advance


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TheLightShogon
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Mr. DeJong -

I was recently referred to the Cambridge Mental Hospital (CMH) website
and only just read the stories you mentioned.

It's almost funny - in compiling the Dead Poems book, I learned that my
grandmother was checked into that hospital a long time ago under some
weird circumstances that led to her being labeled a Jane Doe of some
sort, at least for awhile. Honestly, though, I never did track down the
hows, whys, or other details - I've been focusing on getting this book
finished.

I must say that the story on the website is intriguing, but I can't
tell you one way or another if the picture or story are actually about
my grandmother. It's not like she had the most unique name or
anything... Between you and me, I think the story on that website is
just another of those urban legends that tend to spring up out of
spooky places like CMH.

Oh, and before I forget - that Dreadhouse site you pointed me to looks
interesting and all, but I honestly don't know anything about it. I
can't imagine that there's any connection between it and the fact that
my grandmother had been in CMH scores of years before.

Thank you for your interest in the book!


> I found your site after looking through a site about the CMH and I
came
> across a picture I believe was made by your Grandmother
> http://www.cambridgementalhospital.com/patients1.html the picture
seems to
> be signed Beatrice Doe but when the picture is flipped it seems to be
signed
> Ann Starling.
> Also on the site there is a story that seems to be about Ann as well
at
> http://www.cambridgementalhospital.com/stories2.html
> And my finding of this site even led from the finding of this site
> http://www.dreadhouse.com/ which is a mysterious encounter at the CMH
that
> has peeked my interest so to speak.
> I just thought you would like to know about all these things and
perhaps if
> there is anything you may know about this perculiar Hospital or even
the
> reality show that suposibly went horribly wrong.
>

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timx
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My Email to Reed:
Quote:

> Hello Reed,
>
> I've found your site through strange and unusual circumstance, which
I'd be
> more than happy to recount another time, if you're curious.
>
> There have been a trail a clues leading from the misdeeds of a
Television
> Production company to the website about your Grandmother. Here's
where it
> gets wierder; The misdeeds of the Production company deal with some
tragic
> deaths that happened in the same Mental Institution that your
Grandmother
> spent her life in, wrote her poetry in.
>
> But on to the point. There appears to be a hidden message in the
latest of
> your Grandmother's poems. This message spells out the words
> "ancienTterror", but only through some very round-about play with
them.
>
> Does this mean anything to you? Are you the webmaster of the Dead
Poems
> site, or do you share your duties with another?
>
> Any help you can provide will be appreciated.
>
> Thank you
>
> -Tim


Mr. Singleton's response:
Quote:

Tim -

I know there is a lot of history and eeriness concerning the Cambridge
Mental Hospital, but I honestly don't know anything about any
connection with a television producer. Have you tried contacting
them?

I do want to clarify one thing - my grandmother didn't spend her life
in Cambridge Mental Hospital. In my research on her life, I found she
spent some time there, and had even been in another institution after
that. The poetry that I have, however, is a collection from her time
in Cambridge Mental Hospital, and you can read this collection when you
purchase the book.

I have heard people say they read things in the poetry, but isn't that
really true of all poetry? I welcome all of my readers to enjoy and
draw their own imagery from the poems as they see fit. That's the
beauty of poetry, after all. To that end, I have tried to include
pictures from the mental hospital residents, including many from my
grandmother, in an effort to enhance the imagery they evoke.

The site was set up for me by one of my friends, as I am not
particularly computer-savvy. But I've learned the basics and don't
share the maintenance of the site or the email duties with anybody else.

I hope this answers your questions - thank you for your interest!


He didn't really answer my questions, but at least he didn't plug the book!

Edit: I just sent a response back to him trying to get the name of his computer-savvy friend.

[Spec] Perhaps his/her initials are JC?

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sequoya
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Nothing much gained, was trying to get more info on the book - all he can give me is it's going to be soft-cover and paper (ie not an e-book!).. not many more details, I'm afraid.

Quote:

Jehane -

I'm sorry I didn't get to your message until now - it's been rather
hectic, as you can imagine, getting everything ready!

I am publishing this book myself, and as such, I cannot afford the time
or manpower to offer a pre-release purchase option to anybody. It's
taken almost all of my attention to finish the book and all the other
preparations necessary to meet my August 17th deadline.

In fact, I don't have a retail price set in stone just yet. As there
is less than a week left and I'm still finishing it, right now I am
planning to provide the other necessary purchase details when the book
is officially released for sale. If the plan changes in the next few
days, I'll post what I can on the website.

The book will be soft-cover and paper, with poems and pictures. If you
haven't already (although it sounds like you have), you can see some
samples on my webpage.

I thank you for your interest, and I hope you enjoy the book!

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
>
> Dear Reed,
> I have been avidly reading your site over the past couple of weeks and am very interested in your book, Dead Poems. I understand it is out on August the 17th of this year, and wondered if you could answer some
questions about it:
> - Is there any way one can go about pre-ordering your book? I am
desperate to get my hands on a copy and wouldn't want to miss out, as I know it is highly anticipated by many Smile
> - How will the book be delivered? Is it just a traditional book, or will it
> also be made available as an e-book?
> - What is the intended RRP of the book?
>
> Any answers you can give me would be much appreciated. Are you doing anything special to celebrate the book's release? A launch party for
> instance?
>
I particularly appreciated the poem in your latest update to the
website – hope to see more of the same in the book.
>
> Regards, and best of luck with the launch,
> Jehane (sequoya)


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Wishi-san
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Just answered me about the capitalisation of the poems, saying that it is taken from Ann's originals.
Quote:
I have done my best to maintain the overall structure of each poem as I
have found them, including punctuation and capitalization.

Many of the images in the book were produced by my Grandmother or from
other patients at Cambridge Mental Hospital. The rest are just images
that I have purchased or had designed because they fit the theme and
feel of the book and website.

I hope this answers your questions satisfactorily.

Thank you for your interest!

I sent:
Quote:
I'm very interested in this book. It looks like it will be
fascinating reading.

I have a couple of questions. Your latest poem added to the site:

"aT Night ThE PaIN It sTArts TO eASe
As wOuNDs tHeY sTArT TO heAL
I wElcomE every nIGHtMare
ANd tHe FrEEDom ThaT I FeeL
reLEaSE ME nOW DeaTh"

Are the capitals from Ann herself or were they added afterwards?

Also, the pictures on the site, where exactly have they come from?

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there is no way i believe that Ann Starling wrote a poem with a secret message encoded in BINARY.

this guy is involved. he knows what's up.

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enaxor
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So Reed finally answered some of his emails. I wrote to him back in July and still haven't heard a word. Crying or Very sad
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Eolirin
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It's not so much that the message is encoded in binary. As a mathematical concept that's been around for a very long time.

That the binary is standard ASCII however...

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enaxor
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Yay, I finally got a reply from Reed. To sum it up, Ann died sometime in 1944-1945. She didn't hear the voices from the dead until she went to Cambridge, and several of the poems and art work were redone over and over again by Ann thru the years.

Quote:

Ms. Olsen -

I'm sorry I haven't gotten back to you until now, but my life has been
rather hectic, as I'm sure you can understand. You asked a few
questions that required a little more of my time than the usual "when
is your book being released?" that I have been reading, but I did find
a little time today to try to answer your curiosities.

Ann died 1944-1945; I have been unable to find a definitive record from
back then, so I do not have an exact date to share with you.

As far as I have determined, Ann was completely normal and never heard
the voices (or at least told anyone about them) until she somehow ended
up in CMH. I have found no records or signs of her hearing or recording
any such thing earlier.

It's hard to say if the messages changed over time because they were
all so different and unique. You will notice that the poems and artwork
are in totally different styles, different handwriting, and so forth -
but it's not as if they went from simple to complex along the way as
far as I can tell.

Which leads me to one of my more frustrating admissions - many of the
pieces are undated, and since they're all so vastly different, it has
been very hard to put them into some semblence of a chronological
sequence. Also, it seems she repeated certain poems and/or art many
times. In fact, I have found different copies of the same piece several
times - always identical in susbstance and structure but obviously hand-
done with slight inconsistencies in their re-writing.

I hope this answers your questions. Happy reading!

> Dear Mr. Singleton,
>
> I ran across your website quite by accident and I must say I am
> fascinated with your upcoming book.
>
> I'm hoping you will share with me a little information about your
> grandmother. You seem to speak of your grandmother in past tense.
> May I ask when she passed? Did these voices in her dreams come to her
> through-out her whole life and did she always record their messages?
> Was there a change in the messages or drawings your grandmother did as
> she aged or did they stay the same? Was she ever able to determine
> who the messages were from, like put a name and face to the dead?
>
> I know your book probably answers all my questions and I apologize for
> my impatience, but I appreciate anything you can share with me.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Roxanne Olsen
>
>

---
Reed Singleton
Dead Poems, available August 17, 2004. Read it - you will believe!

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For completeness, I thought I should add the email that was presumably sent to all who had been in contact with Reed before yesterday. It just basically tells you stuff we've already heard a million times before from Reed about his book Smile and where to buy it, but you never know when these things might turn out to be useful, I guess.

Subject: DEADPOEMS AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE!

Quote:

Dear Fan:

I want to personally thank you for your interest concerning the
Dead Poems book. It has been an amazing experience putting it
together, and I hope you truly enjoy it.

As you know, this is a compilation of both poetry and artwork
created by my grandmother, Ann Starling, while a mental patient
at Cambridge Mental Hospital.

Some people say there are messages to be read in the poems - but
isn't that true of all poetry? I invite you to dive in and
experience my grandmother's haunting legacy.

I am offering this beautiful 95-page poetry book in two beautiful
editions - one deluxe with a four-color interior, and a standard
black and white edition.

Deluxe Color edition: http://www.lulu.com/content/71107
- $21.96
Black and White edition: http://www.lulu.com/content/71054
- $ 9.95

Happy Reading!

---
Reed Singleton
Dead Poems, available August 17, 2004. Read it - you will believe!




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