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[Sam G]

http://ll.media.abc.com/podcast/audio/itunes/LOST_2008%20ComicCon_audio_podcast_43d56421-8030-48a4-a2ef-75de6920e61c_1749705.mp3

New podcast from Comic-con I haven't heard all the questions that were asked

[Sassy]

[deletia]

Yeah, Sassy, I totally agree with you (and BrianEnigma and Kona). As someone else above pointed out, it's probably just a revamped, updated logo, something a corporation might realistically do when relaunching.

Which is not to say that I think people should stop trying to figure out something from it. If that's fun for you, go right ahead. I'm just saying, for myself, I think this is a more directed game than that, and that interpreting the redesign of the new Dharma logo's not part of it.

[jfiscus]

[deletia]

I don't think anyone's mentioned this yet: Octagonrecruiting now redirects to DWY. Please excuse me if I'm repeating someone else.

[Gregoriev]

[wargasm]

does anyone else see these lines?

[lostgeek]

Re: does anyone else see these lines?

[AngriBuddhist]

@everyone

By no way was I suggesting that my or anyone's opinion of what is going on with the logo (and any of the other mutable items) is accurate or actually important to this game. I believe there is a reason for the oddities on the show and that they could carry over into the design of the DWY site but it was just a theory on how it could work for the show and therefore not be something which will be solvable during this game.

[Sam G]

Black Swan

I wonder if it has anything to do with the Orientation Video,

http://humpys.net/images/s2/swanlogo.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ4VuFjxo40&eurl=http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Swan_orientation_film it's the one place we've seen the Swan logo reversed and the swan is black instead of white.

[Ex-Isled Orpheus]

I've been working on the logos for clues since long before the DWY dots, but my recollection is a bit blurry ATM.

As I recall, in general, the Logos are black on white except in the videos, where they are white on black. I'll spare you a dissertation on the unspoken assumptions/influences in videography and computer graphics in the 70s. Suffice it to say: White on black was more common on screens then, just as black on white was more common in print. There were technical reasons, but also partly unthinking style and defaults.

The exception is The Pearl, which is always White on Black, even in print. Maybe they just want the Pearl to always be white. Personally I think it was done to more clearly distinguish the Pearl logo from the generic DHARMA logo: both have a filled circle in the center; the generic logo puts the word DHARMA in the center, while Pearl has DHARMA in the bottom trigram, but that's a kind of subtle distinction for a logo.

But hey, anything worth analyzing is worth overanalyzing. There is such a things a black pearl, and the last I knew Australia was a major producer (they cultured them), so if someone wants hypothesize a black Pearl station (perhaps not [original] DHARMA) carrying the recurring theme of black and white [e.g. black and white stones anyone?], especially since the white pearl is now destroyed, and apparently things went unbalanced on the island... well, be my guest. Heck, who's to say the writers didn't see something worth developing in a B/W pearl symmetry and decide to incorporate it, even it if it wasn't originally planned?

Woot! My post count is up to 1. Is this when we throw a party?

[amandel]

Did I hear "party"? Ah well,nice first post and welcome to uF.

[Ex-Isled Orpheus]

Is that a brownie I see? Wow. I can hardly wait to see what happens at 10!

And just so this isn't a total waste of a post, I'd like to add this:

While I don't agree with Lostpedia that the Dharka patch was "corrected" in the Orchid scene (it's unthinkable to me that they could have made such a big mistake in a detail that was meant to be a major AHA! in that episode, especially since the opening scene had several loving close shots of it), I am rather disturbed by the fact that the bagua doubled some trigrams and left out others. Call it a misguided respect for the symmetry of the bagua, but there it is.

Of course, this opens the way for a lot of encoding, but at a cost of creating an expectation. Symbolically "the Earth Mountain is gone, leaving Water and Sky in its place" is very clever, but can they keep that sort of thing up seamlessly? If it were a marker for, say, alternate timelines, the straight bagua has 8 rotations and their mirror images plus two traditional orders (the "primal' or pre King Wen order, and the modern or post King Wen order) -- it's hard to imagine using all 32 variants in 32 episodes!

I have long feared that S5 would get into alternate timelines (and Darlton's media comments have done much to fan that fear -- which I actually find reassuring; it seems a calculated misdirection), and while I always record in HDTV for later analysis, I doubt they'd make that an essential part of watching Lost. Don't get me wrong, I would love a show that had to be parsed that carefully, and expect to see one someday. We're just not there yet. (Maybe they know that the general audience is quite happy to have it explained verbally weeks later-- if you can imagine)

I may have a different view of the show than most: I watched S1, and enjoyed it, but lost faith early in S2 (I also got hellaciously busy). I only became a fanatic after the S4 premiere in February, and blitz-watching ALL the eps in a few weeks: a firehose experience for someone who had little time for TV/movies, etc. in the last decade.

[Gregoriev]

[luisconceicao]

wow the is getting deep and i havent seen season 3 yet so im confused lol