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[Weezel]

Re: sangigo = bloodshed?

[sapagoo]

Keep in mind this is chapter 18. We skipped ahead a few chapters.
If we are lucky, one of the chapters we haven't seen yet can enlighten us.

[AUZ505]

[momonga]

Hmm, I don't want to sound... how should I put it? Is there a word for our-world/reality-centric? :O It seems to me that our world is the so-called 'original world.' We've been speculating about what the lost ring could be and I know some people threw around the idea that maybe the lost ring is one of the six forms, Gaea, which we're in. If we really are the 'true unique omphaloi' that the athletes are supposed to protect, then it makes it all the more ominous that Gaea is practically an external/outer world threatening to collapse into Neopangaea. I also find it interesting that the chapter uses the word 'umbilical'... any connection to the navel? Where is the navel? Hum!

[mr.judkins]

On the topic of Oaths - while investigating the 1920 Olympic Games in Antwerp a couple weeks ago, I discovered something that I don't think has been mentioned yet.

Those 1920 Games were not only the first to use the Olympic Flag as we know it (with the five rings), but it was also the first to include the Olympic Oath

[AUZ505]

[jasper]

[Chid12]

I think 'umbiliko' does translate best to 'navel' in this situation. It does seem obvious to translate it as 'umbilical' but 'umbilical' is an adjective, and so it would end in the letter 'a' in Esperanto. Words that end in 'o' are nouns, hence 'navel' as the best translation.

[Retzglaran]

[jasper]

Is that a drawing of our solar system? I was thinking it was until I started counting planets.

[Elizabeth123]

Looking at the relative sizes, it looks like there' an extra planet either between the Earth and Mars (maybe the moon?), or between Mars and Jupiter (one of Jupiter's moons?), and then one of the dwarf planets is included after Pluto. (Although why would it show one and not the other?)

I also wonder what the red lines between some of the planets are supposed to signify--And whether the two large globes above the planets are supposed to be planets as well.

[joeyhess]

[Retzglaran]

a planet between Mars and Jupiter? Sounds like Phaeton (also called "Planet V") to me:

Phaeton

Planet V

...which is entirely possible in an alternate reality...

[Guest]

Phaeton who tried to drive Zues's solar chariot with disasterous results, eh? Is that chariot depicted on Eli hunt's book cover?

[unagi]

Yesterday I heard Noriko was planning to take the Oath in Ch. 18, I corrected my Japanese translation.

I also changed the Esperanto transcription in Wiki as follows:
1. la scio la muntaj fontas -> la scio de la multaj fontas
(This is a simple transcription mistake)
2. la unua kiu atestis la sangigon -> la unua kiu atestis la sangigon (ŝanĝiĝon?).
(I thought no conclusion were made so I showed both possibilities)

These changes were incorporated into Ariadne/Alex blog, but James seems to have taken a former version of the Oath.
I haven't changed the English version.

In addition, comparing the Oath with the Olympic one, I think the change
3. per la gloro de nia sporto, kaj per la honoro de niaj teamoj -> por la gloro de nia sporto, kaj por la honoro de niaj teamoj
would be appropriate. (But I didn't change the Esperanto/English versions.)

EDIT: I forgot to mention
4. όμφαλοί -> όμφαλος
at two sites.