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[PARTIAL SOLVE?] The new computer code
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ilovecheese
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Dorkmaster wrote:
This is what I've been yelling all day, people! We need to focus on this flea/spdr thing for a while and get some serious conclusions cooking.

We know flea has used spdr-like commands. Has the flea used white on black? No. (I welcome comment. I'd be happy to hear a contradiction on that.)

So, with that in mind, these coordinates HAD TO ORIGINATE WITH SPDR, right? (I know we can, by extension, guess that the flea did it, but without knowing the author for certain, how can we try to figure the motive, and therefore solve the GPS puzzle?!?)


perhaps i'm confused but i thought that the PF ONLY communicated with white text...?

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I've stayed out of this conversation for so long for that reason GunsmithCat, although it's all along the same thread.. (people have started about 5-10 different threads all pertaining to the GPS stuff) I apologize for cross-threading. I really do, but I only wrote stuff when it pertained to the topic as current, (which this was.) Next time, I'll just post a link to a theory I put up in another thread. Sorry all. Ignore the Dorkmaster!

EDIT - ilovecheese: that's my point. The flea, while it's used words that mimic SPDR, has not been able to go beyond it's white on white "voice" to COMPLETELY mimic SPDR. So my extension of that, is that the coordinates have to come from SPDR then. you follow?
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GunsmithCat wrote:
Do we really need to cross forum this? Smile


Ultimately, shouldn't that be our goal in every forum? I would imagine that the puzzles rely on each other to some degree, wherein if we can solve the story puzzles (props to Shad0!), then perhaps we can use what we've learned to help solve the Axons puzzle. Just so long as the SPEC doesn't stray away from how they're related, I can't see any problems... but then again, it's not my thread.
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Re: [PARTIAL SOLVE?] The new computer code

jellyfish_green wrote:
I believe I have some new code.

I spent three hours last night wearing out my F5 key trying to find the second trail that started on hives.html. I knew it had to be there. You have shown me the way. Worshippy

So here's the final thread. (It's actually #5, and the one I posted fifth should still be last.)

SPDR wrote:
grope:
!hndshk extern proc 1

While SPDR is still trying to confirm whether the Pious Flea is a threat, the Flea has started using SPDR commands himself, to try to get rid of her! (By the way, notice how much faster the Flea is than SPDR!)

Flea wrote:
!extend probe
grope: host
grope: host
grope:
!triage mat grope >> !dmg unk
!grope invntry kill master sector confidence 777
deploy !dmg
distributed peril recurse
drop

SPDR wrote:
fail msg: unk proc

surg:
!diag extern proc 1
rogue proc

Flea wrote:
surg: !bite hndshk
reveal grope
!config evade invntry law deploy law

SPDR wrote:
!bite rogue proc 1
clean confidence 100

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kgenthe
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Again, excuse my newbieness....

I have a good idea, I hope it hasn't been posted.

Shad0, may I suggest you e-mail ladybee777 with some code of your own? Perhaps you could embed it in an image, or maybe just a raw text file? Maybe you could embed it within an already used image on the ILB site?

Could this work?

edit: Perhaps you could send an e-mail with an attachment. The attachment would be an uncorrupted original image from the ILB site. You would then embed your own code into it. Then in the e-mail, more code, saying update this image. (definetely looking at shad0)

Again, talking in code. Perhaps we can use code to get more information.

Thoughts?

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Re: [PARTIAL SOLVE?] The new computer code

kgenthe wrote:
I have a good idea, I hope it hasn't been posted.

Shad0, may I suggest you e-mail ladybee777 with some code of your own? Perhaps you could embed it in an image, or maybe just a raw text file? Maybe you could embed it within an already used image on the ILB site?

Someone (Arkangel, actually) did try sending code to ladybee777SPLAThotmail.com a while ago (July 30, 2004, to be precise). It's on the Wiki. I assume there was no response, since I haven't heard anything about it. It wasn't embedded in an image, though.

The thing is, I believe that the Sleeping Princess is the one intercepting e-mail to ladybee777. And she speaks English just fine, as far as I know.

(Hey, maybe we should send her more haiku! Mr. Green )
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hitman5579
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MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY
Getting muddled here. Sick, obviously.
Broken inside. Not thinking straight.

Got to go back to first principles.

Survive evade reveal escape.

Survive-well, I'm not dead yet.
Evade-don't want to evade. I want to be FOUND.

...unless...

...of course, if I am behind enemy lines, then constantly shouting for help wouldn't be the smartest play in the world, would it?


wouldnt this mean the flea is in control of melissa but she doenst no it and
the flea probably had somethin to do with the ship goin down

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Heheh

[Warning Super dumb humour ahead, viewer discretion is advised] OMG Man, see when we work together Man we could be smarter than......Dare I say it, Steven Hawkin! Speaking of the devil, someone should kidnap him tie him up and help us figure this out Dunce
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I wonder if the original Spider program is archived somewhere on ILB.com?
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Regarding who posted the coordinates... didn't the Princess, in her most recent E-mail, speak of how SPDR "built the roads" (including the one into the sea, nice going), rather than the Flea? Of course, it could be the Flea mimicking SPDR, but I was under the impression that the Princess knew the Flea more intimately than that. Not sure where I got that impression (specifically, that the Flea is the Princess's equivalent to the SPDR). I'll go check.

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John Incognito
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The case for the flea being a covenant program gets stronger

Has anyone seen this?


Quote:

REVEAL
It is imperative that all records that might lead to


I think this refers to the command to purge all information that leads to earth should a ship fall under control of the covenant forces.

If the Flea took the place of Spider to "find the truth" by using the spider's commands strings to recover lost or possibly "Deleted" memorys or "Data", it would mean that the truth is the earth coordinates.

Also this would most certainly place the actions of the flea in the "past" unless Jjaro/Forerunner space/time warping tech was involved somehow due to the "Metallic Cylinder". In that case the Flea is looking for the Earth Coord in "present time" to send back to the covenant "now" in the form of radio waves. The lag between the waves getting to the covenant would take some time though.. So it could get to them at anytime during the halo storyline "but possibly before the attack on earth Razz"

This theory would also suggest that our goal is to somehow hinder or interfere with the Flea before it can find and sent the info back home.

Let me know what you guys think.. or If I am trouting. Razz
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actually, thats a damn good idea...so the SPDR was a good program, and the Flea, a small virus planted by the Covenant, is a bad program...(note that the Flea is always referred to as "external", meaning it originated outside the system)
so the new goal is to stop the Flea...but how?
maybe some way to get the SPDR back?(though the SPDR is apparently very simple/weak/unintelligent, all it can do is randomly fix things and "hope" it stops the Flea, which it obviously can't)

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Re: The case for the flea being a covenant program gets stro

John Incognito wrote:
Has anyone seen this?


Quote:

REVEAL
It is imperative that all records that might lead to

If the Flea took the place of Spider to "find the truth" by using the spider's commands strings to recover lost or possibly "Deleted" memorys or "Data", it would mean that the truth is the earth coordinates.


in fact, if this is true....then maybe this is related to the posting of the GPS coordinates on ILB? perhaps the Flea find SOME coordinates, rather than THE coordinates, but posted them anyway thinking they may be correct?

oh, and i apologize for the amazing trout potential of this post and the previous one ahead of time Trout im mostly a lurker, and first-time ARG'er, who is too lazy to post, seeing as how ill be posting maybe once a week Smile

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This is Wild Spec, but if the Spider program was deleted in the same fashion as one deletes a file the Spider might still be in the computer's cashe file..

Obviously the Spider has no hope against the Flea due to it's lack of processing speed, and we can not inform the Queen about the problem because the Flea mostly likely has the same access to Ladybee777SPLAThotmail.com that the Queen does.

A possible solution to this is that the Spider might be accessed through a hidden page on ILB.com which would in turn alert the Queen to the disguised Flea.
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What no reponse to this post? Did I trout? Was it not very good?

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