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lazarus0280
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 		passcode
A few days ago when SecureIdguard said to contact if you last you passcode I sent a generic message in that i had....lol....this was my response today

Our records indicate that this address is not enrolled in our services. If your company address has changed, please send us your old information so that we can update our records accordingly. We apologize for any inconvenience.

So, maybe we can have one of our guys with the false company.....(aka russell) apply for protection through secureidguard and get one of the passcode things. Or has someone already done this? I'm too lazy right now to go back and reread the thread.

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 		Well since it is a game and SecureID isn't a real company I suppose it wouldn't hurt to make up a fake company to register with them.
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theronin23
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 		Yeah...get this, I suggested Ethan should change his status to single so there was no confusion. He did. NO POINTS....WTF, there's more than one angle to this game, I'm trying to play the dude angle and I'm not gettin' ANYTHING.

BTW lazarus, thanks for c-blocking me in the blog comments!!!Razz

I was hoping he would get back to me and I could tell him about the accident and blah blah blah, next thing you know, I'm in like Irene

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lazarus0280
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 		Sarah Green
So when the story broke of the deaths I sent an e-mail to Sarah Green the reporter asking the nature of death and for any info. Also stated it was interesting that the family was hurt recently too. this was my response today


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Dear Lazarus,
I wrote the article in question under the name Sarah Green while doing preparation for a report into identity theft (this piece will be coming out in a few weeks). Tim Daniels helped me to establish some leads, and as a favor, I wrote this piece when his company was failing, and he was unable to retain the services of his press agency.
You are not the first person to bring this to my attention, and as an investigative reporter, your questions intrigued me. I made a few calls, and all I could find out is that both cases are closed - the first being classified as a hit and run, and the other an unfortunate accident. I'm sorry that I can't help you more, but I suggest that you contact Tim Daniels if you have any further questions.

Sincerely,

Josephine Cobdan

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irene.adler
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 		Hey all.

Tim Daniels was mentioned on the SecureID Guard blog, don't know when that was put up though. So if it wasn't live before, its live now. Tim's former partner died after a car accident as well. Along with his wife and child. My guess is that Zach muscled out Roger Sands and brought in Carylal investment group and they are using the technology to do something for the government or military. Ethan didn't dump Tyler, he saw what happened to Tim's partner and his family and wanted to get as far away from Tyler as possible. Things came up. The car accident thing probably isn't random in the plot though.

There's also another cypher machine mentioned in the meta of the Carlyal webpage. I think the keys and strings might be in the package SecureID Guard sent out.

Check the prlog.org
There's a few up related to Carlyal Capital Management, SecureID Guard and Roger Sands. The Carlyal announcement was written by Nicole whom I tried to contact. Her last name translates to Bad Grove. Not sure if its relevant, just kinda strange. I wonder if Nicole was the 'new girl' Tyler reffered to in the video before she lost her memory. Its possible Nicole is in on this. She gave the guy (presumably) from Carlyal a death look at the party. Tim Daniels sat there with a wierd little smirk. I wouldn't trust Nicole as Tyler's "friend" just yet.

I also PMed Tyler, but she was acting fuzzy. She has no clue what's going on.

The Carlyal phone number is up and running.

The craigslist and everyblock posts are OOG. Ignore them.

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theronin23
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irene.adler wrote:
Hey all.

Tim Daniels was mentioned on the SecureID Guard blog, don't know when that was put up though. So if it wasn't live before, its live now. Tim's former partner died after a car accident as well. Along with his wife and child. My guess is that Zach muscled out Roger Sands and brought in Carylal investment group and they are using the technology to do something for the government or military. Ethan didn't dump Tyler, he saw what happened to Tim's partner and his family and wanted to get as far away from Tyler as possible. Things came up. The car accident thing probably isn't random in the plot though.

There's also another cypher machine mentioned in the meta of the Carlyal webpage. I think the keys and strings might be in the package SecureID Guard sent out.

Check the prlog.org
There's a few up related to Carlyal Capital Management, SecureID Guard and Roger Sands. The Carlyal announcement was written by Nicole whom I tried to contact. Her last name translates to Bad Grove. Not sure if its relevant, just kinda strange. I wonder if Nicole was the 'new girl' Tyler reffered to in the video before she lost her memory. Its possible Nicole is in on this. She gave the guy (presumably) from Carlyal a death look at the party. Tim Daniels sat there with a wierd little smirk. I wouldn't trust Nicole as Tyler's "friend" just yet.

I also PMed Tyler, but she was acting fuzzy. She has no clue what's going on.

The Carlyal phone number is up and running.

The craigslist and everyblock posts are OOG. Ignore them.


Um...according to the press release, Mr. Yokar (Tim's partner) was found dead in his apartment. And that's what Josephine said too.

But yes...I think Zachiepoo was muscling out the competition cuz now OLF is out of business till it's investigated by the government

BTW, lazarus...I got the exact same response from Josephine.

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irene.adler
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 		Yeah, I guess I'm saying they all were killed. Deleted. He he Wife, kid, apartment dude. And who ever these people are, they took a shot at our dear Tyler...

Ethan knew it too...he knew she wasn't safe...because really...what guy moves in with a girl and dumps her two weeks later. That's some kind of desperation or a total plot hole..

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Schrijvertje
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 		Sent in my reply. Let's hope for the best.

So are we supposed to find out where Ethan is staying using his beach pic?

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lazarus0280
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 		Agree
Now I agreeing with you on Zach muscling in and all. I thought Nicole was the one that was living out of state whom Tyler was talking to. Which would make it hard for me to believe she is involved. Did you guys not get that impression...or did you think it's another character?

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 		I can't figure out where that beach pic is. I think it *looks* like Greece...but could it also be Isreal?

I have a steg utility on my work computer. When I go to my office maybe I'll try that from there unless someone already has.

I'm pretty sure Nicole works for Secure ID Guard, because if she was Tylers friend from the west coast she wouldn't have been at the company launch party.

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 		Hello, Been playing for a little bit but have never posted before...

SecureIDGuard has Nicole listed as the CFO, but only since August 2008. I thought she was Tyler's friend from the west coast and then moved to nyc--she did agree to come visit her in one of the videos and maybe she just stayed...?

Also, I emailed SecureIDGuard expressing my concern about the recent changes to their board. They just replied that they weren't going to make any other changes and their mission was the same. boring.

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 		Bugger. Looks like I was completely wrong about my answer. OK I've learnt my lesson. I'll wait a while next time before posting my answer!

You are a seriously good ARGer Irene I hope I'll be as good eventually Smile

P.S. Why's this tread been moved to Chaotic Fiction? And whats the difference between Chaotic Fiction and ARGs?
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irene.adler
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grindboy wrote:
Bugger. Looks like I was completely wrong about my answer. OK I've learnt my lesson. I'll wait a while next time before posting my answer!

You are a seriously good ARGer Irene I hope I'll be as good eventually Smile

P.S. Why's this tread been moved to Chaotic Fiction? And whats the difference between Chaotic Fiction and ARGs?


Awww...thanks. I appreciate the compliment, but its not really true. I got to go to the launch party because I'm like three blocks away...so the social engineering vs. ARG info was kinda "inside."
And I'm just posting my theory...I have no clue if its even remotely close or not...I was just posting what I think is going on. (Although my husband is still going with his Fight Club theory...Zach and Ethan are the same person. LOL.)

But I think really the best 'inside' info I got at the launch party is that the game is designed to have two paths to either answer...a psychological path and a technical path. I really think the Hagelin C3 cipher machine mentioned in the meta tag of the Secure ID website and the US M-94 cipher machine mentioned in the meta tag of the Carlyal website are important. I just have no idea what we are supposed to decode and what the keys are supposed to be.

The reason I think there's a governmental/military aspect to this is because the name Carlyal is close to Carlyle...like the Carlyle Group. Some of the Carlyal portfolio are real companies that are part of the Carlyle portfolio. And Carlyle is a major center of conspiracy theories in the US (thanks in part to Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11)

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 		hey guys i've been following the game from the beginning i mostly post over at the deleted forums. well im going to have my skype meeting with tim daniels at 4 tomorrow, or today depending on when you read this. so if theres anything you want me to ask him, just let me know. i will report our conversation here immediately following

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grindboy wrote:
Bugger. Looks like I was completely wrong about my answer. OK I've learnt my lesson. I'll wait a while next time before posting my answer!

You are a seriously good ARGer Irene I hope I'll be as good eventually Smile

P.S. Why's this tread been moved to Chaotic Fiction? And whats the difference between Chaotic Fiction and ARGs?


I think it's moved because now it's an actual game, whilst before it was just "news and rumours" of an upcoming game.

Did anyone receive any points yet for their answer, or a reply that it's a wrong answer, because when I log in there's not chance in statistics.

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