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[R2] Results day 08/22
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Seyelback
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Verdammt wrote:
pixelsword wrote:

Likely. There's at least two people not accounted for from the first resistance:

-U.K.'s Lt.(?) Buckler, who survived an onslaught of chimera and was the only person to survive out of his platoon. He was mentioned in a Intel report from the first resistance, and in the third or second to the last level, Parker says his name (I'm not sure if he's in the PSP version of Resistance; if he is, he's not the star, James Grayson is). Although he was serving under the British, he could've immigrated to the United States and returned for obvious reasons.

-An unnamed African American soldier, who you play as the player 2; he had the exact same abilities as Hale and they could both heal each other, showing that at least they were familiar enough with each other to know what their combined abilities could do.


Actually, what I meant was that PA just might put Cassie up for a vote, or inject her after Danby has his turn.


We need to remember that the vote thing is Cassie's idea. PA asked her to decide between the proposed subjects, and she decided to put this desition in our hands. PA does not know we are voting, only Cassie and Hale know we are voting. So PA cannot put Cassie on a vote, because they don't even know there's a vote, they think Cassie is making the choices herself, based in the psychological test results she has got.
It might happen that now they also include some subjects from Genesis, but I think they just inject Danby, and that's all. In the trailers for R2, Hale's squad (The Sentinels) is formed by: Keystone, Blake, Warner, Roger, Hawthorne, Capelli and Hale. I don't know if I missed someone, I took this names from the trailers.
So Capelli and Hale have been injected in Project Abraham. We don't know where the rest come from. It is known that all of them have some kind of immunity / resistance to the virus, and that is why they have put then together. But we don't know if they got this from R1, or previously (like Hale and Capelli) from one of these projects.
I don't think they inject Cassie, if she dies I think this would happen because Danby's injection is too succesful, he transforms quite quickly and then kills all the staff in the base, which is why no one knew about the experiments that where being done here or that Hale was injected at this point. weeks later, a squad from the army arrives at PA to see why they haven't got a signal / reply from them. They find Hale in the hospital facility, and because there are no signs of transformation, and all the documents have been burnt, they think he is just a lucky survivor, and send him to R1. And this explains why nobody knew previously about the resistance Hale has, and also why he is being followed at the end by the Black Ops, who found out through Genesis about Hale, and they are trying to catch him to send him to Alaska, to investigate that resistance, and create the Special Forces squad with him....

Just a guess... lol

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Seyelback wrote:
*all that stuff Seyelback wrote...


That's quite an elaborate guess.....I'm impressed..

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 		Ok, so I missed a week because I was out on business and was able to catch up on everything except on thing.

Where did the new Spra login come from. I have searched high and low and it still eludes me. Some clarification please. Smile

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Awful Glory wrote:
Ok, so I missed a week because I was out on business and was able to catch up on everything except on thing.

Where did the new Spra login come from. I have searched high and low and it still eludes me. Some clarification please. Smile
When Hale was injected we got a doc number that even logged in with the howardp login gave you the "you don't have access to that file" message. Somebody on here figured out the new login. It's in the thread for Hales actual injection day, I believe.

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Awful Glory wrote:
Ok, so I missed a week because I was out on business and was able to catch up on everything except on thing. Where did the new Spra login come from. I have searched high and low and it still eludes me. Some clarification please. Smile


We know already from the previous login that the username is the person's surname plus the first initial of their given name. In this case: Thompson+G=thompsong.

The password in this particular case was given to us by the "fired security officer" who wrote a note to his girlfriend stating that he made the General's password "something that [he] couldn't possibly forget" (I can't find the actual document, I apologize). There's a quote by the General that with some research turns out to actually be a quote from the character Dauphin from Shakespeare which is the password.

IE: sec thompsong:dauphin

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Seyelback wrote:
Verdammt wrote:
pixelsword wrote:

Likely. There's at least two people not accounted for from the first resistance:

-U.K.'s Lt.(?) Buckler, who survived an onslaught of chimera and was the only person to survive out of his platoon. He was mentioned in a Intel report from the first resistance, and in the third or second to the last level, Parker says his name (I'm not sure if he's in the PSP version of Resistance; if he is, he's not the star, James Grayson is). Although he was serving under the British, he could've immigrated to the United States and returned for obvious reasons.

-An unnamed African American soldier, who you play as the player 2; he had the exact same abilities as Hale and they could both heal each other, showing that at least they were familiar enough with each other to know what their combined abilities could do.


Actually, what I meant was that PA just might put Cassie up for a vote, or inject her after Danby has his turn.


We need to remember that the vote thing is Cassie's idea. PA asked her to decide between the proposed subjects, and she decided to put this desition in our hands. PA does not know we are voting, only Cassie and Hale know we are voting. So PA cannot put Cassie on a vote, because they don't even know there's a vote, they think Cassie is making the choices herself, based in the psychological test results she has got.
It might happen that now they also include some subjects from Genesis, but I think they just inject Danby, and that's all. In the trailers for R2, Hale's squad (The Sentinels) is formed by: Keystone, Blake, Warner, Roger, Hawthorne, Capelli and Hale. I don't know if I missed someone, I took this names from the trailers.
So Capelli and Hale have been injected in Project Abraham. We don't know where the rest come from. It is known that all of them have some kind of immunity / resistance to the virus, and that is why they have put then together. But we don't know if they got this from R1, or previously (like Hale and Capelli) from one of these projects.
I don't think they inject Cassie, if she dies I think this would happen because Danby's injection is too succesful, he transforms quite quickly and then kills all the staff in the base, which is why no one knew about the experiments that where being done here or that Hale was injected at this point. weeks later, a squad from the army arrives at PA to see why they haven't got a signal / reply from them. They find Hale in the hospital facility, and because there are no signs of transformation, and all the documents have been burnt, they think he is just a lucky survivor, and send him to R1. And this explains why nobody knew previously about the resistance Hale has, and also why he is being followed at the end by the Black Ops, who found out through Genesis about Hale, and they are trying to catch him to send him to Alaska, to investigate that resistance, and create the Special Forces squad with him....

Just a guess... lol


Unfortunately this ARG takes place after R1. Sorry Embarassed

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Cado wrote:
Unfortunately this ARG takes place after R1. Sorry Embarassed

Er...no it doesn't. The ARG is currently set in December of 1950. R1 doesn't take place until July of 1951.

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 		the time of PA and RF
actually i played through the first resistance a few days ago and in the intro movie where you see hale put on his helm he picks up a picture that looks ALOT like the one taken of the guys for PA which kind of further pushes to home that the the first resistance takes place after PA

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 		found the vid on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPxTaxreFv8

at 1:36 you see a decent shot of the photo.

dunno if any one noticed it before or not but thats a lurkers contribution

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azureace wrote:
found the vid on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPxTaxreFv8

at 1:36 you see a decent shot of the photo.

dunno if any one noticed it before or not but thats a lurkers contribution


We already figured it out with dates, but thank you for validating it =D

It DOES look like the picture.
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 		Re: Photo in beginning of R:FOM1

We found that a while back and it DOES look an awful lot like the same pic, though somebody got a really good scan of it and it isn't exactly the same. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be, though. I'm guessing they knew they wanted 8 player co-op for R:FOM2, perhaps had even fleshed out how Hale got his resistance to the virus and Project Abraham - but they hadn't really cast those parts yet. Be interesting to see how much the characters in the vidgame resemble the actors in the ARG (I don't think Hale looks much like his vidgame self at all - pretty sure if they modeled him on an actor, it wasn't the guy playing him in the ARG).

I'm hoping that we'll run into a bunch of other R2 characters while playing R:FOM2: Cassie, Dr. Malikov, AFAO people, Hale's family, Elden Stockmeyer (kid Oster beeat up), maybe go save Gennaro's family.

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Grunj wrote:

I'm hoping that we'll run into a bunch of other R2 characters while playing R:FOM2: Cassie, Dr. Malikov, AFAO people, Hale's family, Elden Stockmeyer (kid Oster beeat up), maybe go save Gennaro's family.


The whole point is this happens 2 years later. Since they need to keep thigns somewhat seperated while building backstory, I doubt he'll ever see them again.
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Gregoryn95 wrote:
Grunj wrote:

I'm hoping that we'll run into a bunch of other R2 characters while playing R:FOM2: Cassie, Dr. Malikov, AFAO people, Hale's family, Elden Stockmeyer (kid Oster beeat up), maybe go save Gennaro's family.


The whole point is this happens 2 years later. Since they need to keep thigns somewhat seperated while building backstory, I doubt he'll ever see them again.


Though I get that IG is 2 years before the events in R1, I don't see any reason why that precludes people from appearing in R2.

Hell, if Sayelbeck's intel is good, at the very least we're going to see Capelli. Though I'm not sure which trailers he's referring to where he gleaned that info. But I've had no cause to doubt any of Sayelbeck's info thus far, so...

Also, why include that photo in the beginning of R1 if they didn't intend to tie it in to the next game? I suppose it's possible they knew they wanted to do an ARG 4 years ago (or likely more) when they started development on R1, but I'm doubtful.

And much of the objects we're uncovering are definitely going to be in the game - the huge Chimeran creatures, Malikov's first hybrid/supersoldier attempts in Russia, the different new weapons. Considering they're featured in the timeline video, I'm betting the LDP and the PA base in Alaska will be levels, and perhaps even Genesis. Given that, I certainly don't think it's unreasonable that some of the ARG characters will make appearances, or at the very least referenced. And if Hale shares Cassie's feelings, it feels like a wasted opportunity not to have her in the game: A) You've got Katee Sackoff, use her (though, admittedly, perhaps they'd have to pay her a lot more, may not be what they contracted for, etc.) and B) one of the biggest criticisms of R1 was that we didn't identify with Hale - story segments weren't told from his point of view, we didn't know how he felt about much of anything, no background, etc. The ARG's done a great job of giving us a ton of that, and Insomniac (developers of R:FOM) have already announced the story will be from Hale's perspective, so they're trying to remedy those issues. Can't think of a better way to humanize someone than a love story.

Ooh, and I give you 2 to 1 odds we run into Jordan Adam Shephard in R:FOM2 (provided he survives the ARG).

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Grunj wrote:


Though I get that IG is 2 years before the events in R1, I don't see any reason why that precludes people from appearing in R2.

Hell, if Sayelbeck's intel is good, at the very least we're going to see Capelli. Though I'm not sure which trailers he's referring to where he gleaned that info. But I've had no cause to doubt any of Sayelbeck's info thus far, so...


Simple. A bunch of sites have that info. It's from earlier information given through teasers, press conferences, etc.

Grunj wrote:
Also, why include that photo in the beginning of R1 if they didn't intend to tie it in to the next game? I suppose it's possible they knew they wanted to do an ARG 4 years ago (or likely more) when they started development on R1, but I'm doubtful.


It's a tactic to make for a more mysterious character, with a shadowy past. When they hired 42, they probably just chose to base it off of the photo, as a tie in. All companies need somewhere to start. They got the idea from the photo.

Grunj wrote:
And much of the objects we're uncovering are definitely going to be in the game - the huge Chimeran creatures, Malikov's first hybrid/supersoldier attempts in Russia, the different new weapons. Considering they're featured in the timeline video, I'm betting the LDP and the PA base in Alaska will be levels, and perhaps even Genesis. Given that, I certainly don't think it's unreasonable that some of the ARG characters will make appearances, or at the very least referenced. And if Hale shares Cassie's feelings, it feels like a wasted opportunity not to have her in the game: A) You've got Katee Sackoff, use her (though, admittedly, perhaps they'd have to pay her a lot more, may not be what they contracted for, etc.) and B) one of the biggest criticisms of R1 was that we didn't identify with Hale - story segments weren't told from his point of view, we didn't know how he felt about much of anything, no background, etc. The ARG's done a great job of giving us a ton of that, and Insomniac (developers of R:FOM) have already announced the story will be from Hale's perspective, so they're trying to remedy those issues. Can't think of a better way to humanize someone than a love story.


I didn't say that wouldn't be in the game, but since the ARG COMPANY and the GAME DEVELOPER COMPANY are two seperate entities, they usually run on two different tracks in terms of creativity. The other things are in the game because the developers most likely gave them a bulleted list of thigns that'll be in R2, and what they should include. Everything else is up to them as long as it stays within certain boundaries.

Grunj wrote:
Ooh, and I give you 2 to 1 odds we run into Jordan Adam Shephard in R:FOM2 (provided he survives the ARG).


He might survive, most likely we will end up seeing him.
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