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RangerSergeant
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Let's call ARG...

While I have been lurking here for ages I've never had a reason to participate actively...until now.

I co-author a blog focusing on the future of entertainment; specifically multi-platform release with active immersion for viewer/players. Recently we were invited to participate in the media preview for the new NBC web series Gemini Division. After the preview there was a Q&A with series creator Brent Friedman and one of the hot topics was the ARG for Gemini. Friedman's previous series (Afterworld, season 1, 2007) had a limited, but fun, ARG whith some complexity built in. Based on that experience and his anwers in the Q&A; suffice to say that it had me very excited about Gemini's ARG. I was expecting something similar to the recent Dark Knight game...

The rabbit hole opened today, the second week of the series, through an email I received from one of the character's directing me to his MySpace profile. While the profile receives a five out of ten mark I was astonished when I began reviewing the blog entries.

Check this out: http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=405598630&blogID=428012054

Ok, wtf. Did I miss a memo? Isn't there supposed to be a curtain between the PM and the players? Isn't TINAG one of the prime directives of an ARG? Why would the PM(s) boldly brand an ARG component, then follow that up with a title and summary?

It get's worse. If you visit Gemini on any one of the major distribution websites (scifi.com, NBC, hulu, ect) they have two additional ARG vids that went up this afternoon. Rosario Dawson, in character, provides you some additional 'insight' in to the situation.

Again, branded, titled, and summarized "Note To Self / Viral 1: Anna confronts the fact that Nick is gone." If you call it 'viral' video does that mean that it will propigate through the web and bring you more traffic? Is it really viral video if you post it on your production website? Is the moon really made of cheese?

I am really at a loss with this and need some experienced feedback from this board. I find it difficult to believe that an organization can be so ignorant when it comes to what should be a big budget ARG. Instead it appears that players are going to be led through each phase with big glaring signs at each trailhead saying "HEY, DUMMY! THIS IS A GEMINI DIVISION ARG POINT!"

Has anyone experienced this type of blatantly branded ARG? Is this type of upfront marking normal? Would you play if the rabbit hole opened with a big sign saying ARG?

I need some experienced player opinions on this to gauge whether I am being to harsh in my future post.

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"Extended Media Storytelling" Question If it's not a game to find clues and unlock the story, then it's not a "game". If you are not changing the story as you play along, it's not very Chaotic. So you are probably left with an extension of the medium (the show).

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Sometimes PMs make it very obvious it's a game when they might come into legal trouble for something. Like if they were pretending to kill people or.. something.

However this is just stupid. Labeling it as a viral will only get it negative attention.

The whole point of this is to have some mystery behind it.

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I've been following Gemini Division for a while, and was really intrigued by the idea of an ARG/Viral being tied into it. The fact that the show itself is distributed online, and has a mysterious sci-fi theme, make it prime material for an interactive 'experience'.

But so far, both the webisodes and the viral have been disappointing.

As for the show- I've worked with a lot of folks who both produce and distribute online content, and NBC is just doing this ALL WRONG. Not that the material itself is bad... it's the distribution that's a major turnoff. Each meager 2 minute webisode (with credits each time!) is prefaced with a 30 second ad, filled with microsoft product placement, and viewable from a page that's loaded with banners and haphazardly organized. I feel like I'm getting more commercial than show. And with only 1 or 2 of these 2 minute webisodes per week, the story progresses too slowly... plus I find myself having to rewatch the previous webisodes (and commercials!) each time, just to remind me what the hell is going on.

If they gave me at least 5 minutes of story twice a week, cleaned up their site, and were less intrusive with their advertising, I'd be hooked. But in it's current state, I might drop in once a month in order to maximize how much show I can see while minimizing how much time I have to spend on their webpage.

Now for the viral- I could almost overlook everything I just mentioned if they were to produce a truly exciting interactive experience that gave me something to delve into while waiting for the next week's webisodes. Unfortunately, at least thus far, it doesn't look like they're headed in that direction. For example, the video that you mentioned (which they did actually title "Viral 1") is nothing more than a 1 1/2 minute recap of everything that happened in the first 8 minutes! WTF?

The myspace page isn't terrible, but it's doesn't raise my hopes. I've been through the blogs, and there's a definite 'game' quality to what they're trying to do. But I'm completely lost as to what's expected of me, and I don't find myself at all interested in interacting with this character. This is, of course, only the first 'viral' content we've seen... it could get better... but in a market that's nearly saturated with games to participate in, if one doesn't catch and hold my attention quickly I'll move on to something that does.

So what the hell is going on here? Well... it's just a bit of a clusterf***. They've got a show that's barely a show and a game that's barely a game, both of which are being delivered to us in an unattractive way. If they had come at this from a different angle, and put it all out there as one complete 'experience', I think it might have worked. But they've defined the two as separate, and with the show's short-format online distribution model that just doesn't make sense.

Online extensions of network programs succeed, in part, because they draw a large established TELEVISION audience to participate interactively in a different medium. It's a fun change of pace. But in this case the show itself is delivered through the same medium... the same PAGE even... as the 'interaction'. So why define one as being THIS and one as being THAT? Especially when the webisodes are no longer and no more frequent than video content found in many actual ARGs. It just confuses things and takes the fun out of it.

'ARG' is becoming a catch-all buzzword for any form of advertising that provides a consumer an interactive experience. 'Viral' is often more appropriate... and with a lot of television programs now, 'extended experience' better defines what we're getting. Gemini Division doesn't fit well into any of these categories. If you're just trying to define the 'game' itself, I suppose the closest description would have to be 'extended experience'... but an extension of what? 4 to 6 minutes of show a week? It took me twice that to read though the myspace page today. And if there were some actual participatory game play, I'd be spending AT LEAST 10x as much time (still only an hour) playing the game as watching the show. That just doesn't make sense to me.

Altogether, Gemini Division has the makings for a fantastic ARG. If it had been presented that way, it might have drawn a decent audience and been a breakthrough for a large network. But from what I've seen so far, they've just got a fantastic story and a poor way of telling it.
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Re: Let's call ARG...

RangerSergeant wrote:
Why would the PM(s) boldly brand an ARG component, then follow that up with a title and summary?

This is one of my old hot buttons, and an open wound for a lot of people around here. Who owns the definition of ARG? If words mean whatever their general usage allows them to mean, do we just have to sigh and accept the fact that ARGs today include a lot more variety than when ARGs first took the stage? It may be that the ARG label is now an umbrella term for too many kinds of entertainment, and what we really need is a way to distinguish between them. We've gained some traction with terms like "Extended Reality" and "Immersive Experience" (and Extended Experience and 360 Experience and ...) -- but where is the new distinguishing term for those games with a solid curtain and TINAG attitude?

I think it's a losing battle to argue, "That's not an ARG!" And perhaps it's because of the original intention of TINAG that those "pure" ARGs cannot label themselves with an identifying term. It's up to us (again) to invent a catch-all phrase for ARGs-with-a-curtain, now that everyone else wants to do an ARG their way.

(adding more to my post as I reread)

Isn't this the same problem with the term "viral video"? If a marketing department deliberately creates a video with the intention of forcing it out into the meme stream, is it really viral in the original sense of the word?

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Has anyone experienced this type of blatantly branded ARG? Is this type of upfront marking normal?

I do feel like I see more and more of these kinds of marketing efforts, and more press releases do use the ARG term when they announce their intentions to launch. I can't say I've seen any campaign with actual "ARG Signpost" pages -- yet. It may be that I'm avoiding them.

Oh, and that clip you linked to? It felt about as realistic as the prompts in an old computer game. Maybe that's the antecedent to this "experience": computer adventure games, with snippets of action and story that lead you thru a linear path to unlock more snippets.

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It truly is a horrible way of showing things. I don't quite follow the chart of flights, the videos are unrealistic as hell(Yes, I realize I'm just nitpicking at a Sci-fi show, but i mean in terms of other things), the acting is HORRIBLE. I honestly expected better from Rosario Dawson, but she seems to be sucking lately.

I'm not sure how a VIRAL is a recap of the episodes, it's quite possible everyone over at NBC in charge of it are just extremely high.
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Gregoryn95 wrote:

I'm not sure how a VIRAL is a recap of the episodes, it's quite possible everyone over at NBC in charge of it are just extremely high.


Or old and don't understand how to work this newfangled media.

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RangerSergeant
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Thanks for the feedback folks; I appreciate it. Instead of flames I received the intelligent discussion that I was counting on.

In addition to the entertainment blog I also manage the official fan site for Gemini and my email has been flooded for the last two days...mostly with disappointed fans venting about the 'viral' vids.

I wanted an outside perspective on the situation and you have provided that; unfortunately your feedback mirrors what I am getting in email and my own feelings on the matter.

My larger concern is for Electric Farms, the folks that created the show. They create quality properties and to have a distributor bungle this badly the week before the series goes to daily episode release will reflect poorly on Electric Farms in the long run.

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Others may differ, but my simple take is...

If you can't "play" it (or be played by it), it' isn't a game. It's a story.
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Rogi Ocnorb wrote:
Others may differ, but my simple take is...

If you can't "play" it (or be played by it), it' isn't a game. It's a story.

I don't differ. However, there is a gray area with "interactive story" or those choose-your-own-path adventure stories (originally in book form). Is that making a game out of reading? (I still wouldn't call it an ARG.)

I saw a great definition today, at http://news.tubefilter.tv/2008/08/28/do-you-believe-me-arg-web-series-nabs-distribution/
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The series is coupled with an online reality game. ... Interactive elements revealed so far include talking to characters via SMS, keeping up with the show via a blog, and interacting with characters via social networking sites. Additionally, each episode of the show will be accompanied by games and puzzles. These gaming elements of the show are being billed as an alternate reality game (ARG), as players can actively change the reality of the game while it is going on.

I note that they didn't say the reality of the story is changed, but the environment in which the game takes place does. Also, their use of "online reality game" is either trying for yet another definition, or it was an attempt to ease readers into unfamiliar gaming territory. The game is not integrated into the web series, but is coupled with it. I have to wonder if this is the better way to go, with television as well as web-only video and film projects. (OK, maybe not "better", but less complicated for distributers. The success of the first season of ReGenesis in Canada would be a great model, but I'll bet it's damn difficult to set up.)

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And the completed article: http://www.primetimeforchange.com/

Thank you for the feedback folks; it beats the flame emails I was receiving at the fan site.

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RangerSergeant wrote:
And the completed article: http://www.primetimeforchange.com/

Thank you for the feedback folks; it beats the flame emails I was receiving at the fan site.


Enjoyed the article. Welcome to uF, hope you stick around and participate in the META (and play a few ARGs with us).
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konamouse wrote:
RangerSergeant wrote:
And the completed article: http://www.primetimeforchange.com/

Thank you for the feedback folks; it beats the flame emails I was receiving at the fan site.


Enjoyed the article. Welcome to uF, hope you stick around and participate in the META (and play a few ARGs with us).


Thanks Smile

The article made the ARGnet podcast this week, which is quite an honor for us. http://www.argnetcast.info/archives/532

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