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konamouse
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Posts: 8010
Location: My own alternate reality

EMAIL BRUCE: Info to get Dale Released?

From: konamouse
Date: Saturday, March 15, 2003 10:24pm PST (-0800GMT)
Topic: Contact.
Subject: EMAIL Bruce: regarding info that may help get Dale out. babbottSPLATanonymousfame.com
To: "hlb" <hlbxxxxxx@xxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Plea for help from your friend

Mr. B:

Thank you so much for your expression of concern for Dale. It appears
that Dale has made many friends in the past couple of years, and I certainly have
heard from a number of them that he apparently contacted before his commitment.

We are currently doing everything in our power to get Dale the help
that he needs to get back to reality. It is obviously almost impossible for any
of us to imagine how horrifying it must be to try to come to grips with having been
involved in a fatal accident that has taken from you the rest of your immediate family.
I am not sure that giving Dale reasons to continue avoiding these facts is in his
best interest. However, if you have information that you believe will be beneficial
to his interests, it would certainly be unreasonable for me to not at least look
at what you have. By all means, send me what you have found,
and I will consider what to do with it.

Sincerely yours,
Bruce Abbott

Quoting hlb

> Mr. Abbott.
> I know you don't know me, and I don't know you. But
> because of a strange email I received from your
> friend, Dale, I find myself contacting you in an offer
> of my assistance.
>
> I have some evidence in my possession that may prove
> that Dale is not hallucinating, and his story, as
> implausible as it sounds, may be true.
>
> I'd like to share this information with you, in Dale's
> best interest, to help him be released from the mental
> hospital.
>
> Please contact me at your earliest convienence.
>
> HLB

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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 2:33 am

konamouse
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Location: My own alternate reality

SPEC: Maybe Dale is suppose to stay at Klepsydra

I'm starting to wonder if maybe we aren't suppose to obtain Dale's release at this time. More than one attempt thru various sources in the game (i.e. the Mayor, Dr. Kendra, Bruce, etc) have been met with severe roadblocks. Maybe the time stamp was really meant for our benefit, to keep us believing Dale's story (and that it wasn't just a mob hit).

Mr. or Ms. Brewer:

Are we sparring, or trying to score points here? You ask me if I'm
interested in seeing evidence that might be helpful in aiding my good friend recover his health? I tell you that I will review what you provide me. You then elect to provide me with nothing but hypotheses and what ifs? Here's one for you, then:
What if you are some sadistic bastard who enjoys playing along with the
ravings of a lunatic? Is there a reason that you imagine I would act upon the word of someone I -- and possibly Dale as well -- do not even know?

Mr./Ms. Brewer, the only source of information that I have about the
events of the afternoon of February 14th are the same ones you cite: the public record, as documented in that day's news reports. If you truly have such evidence in your possession, provide it, and I will attempt to assess its credibility. But I have to wonder what you are even suggesting. It is somehow your contention that Dale was driving his car on that day in the company of a woman and child who were not his own family? If so, you had best have good reason for making such potentially slanderous accusations.

As to the status of Dale's commitment, it is clear that you cannot
imagine how peculiarly Dale was acting in the weeks leading up to our decision to get him professional assistance. The decision to hospitalize Dale was a last resort, and one that I did not make lightly. It is my understanding that Dale is getting the best care possible, and we are all hoping for a speedy recovery. But let me be quite clear that any decision on releasing Dale from the hospital will be made by the staff in charge of his case, and will be based solely on the progress that he is able to make in his rehabilitation. If you imagine otherwise, I question whether you truly have your 'friend's' best interests at heart.

Bruce Abbott

Quoting hl brewer <hlbrewer@yahoo.com>:

> Mr. Abbott.
>
> Through some research on the internet, a couple of
> interesting short video pictures have been obtained
> that contradicts the newstory that was shown on
> Channel 8 last week. The published report was that
> the accident was about 4:30pm on Feb 14th. What if we
> have irrefutable evidence that Meaghan was alive and
> well at 4:30p that same day; far enough away from the
> scene of the accident. Would this information be
> enough to help Dale? Would you agree that Dale
> deserves a different kind of help outside of the
> mental hospital?
>
> Let me know your thoughts and we can discuss this
> further.
>
> HLB

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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 10:41 am

Caterpillar
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Re: SPEC: Maybe Dale is suppose to stay at Klepsydra

konamouse wrote:

I'm thinking the same thing. (And now I don't feel so bad for getting the snappy reply from the Mayor:)

Either we haven't found the right direction the PMs want to take us or aren't asking the right questions of the right characters. Bruce seems almost impenetrable. So maybe you're right. In real life none of us (even in the persona of friends) would be able to facilitate a release from a psych hospital. Only the good doctor can do that. And from what I'm getting (via the Mayor's reply) even the vids of Meaghan at 4:33pm aren't irrefutable in their opinions. They could have been tampered with.

I mean, in real life if you were presented with deciding between Dale's Tale and a messed up time stamp on a vid....what would you choose to believe? Nope...not sure these vids of Meaghan are going to be useful in getting him released or even increasing his hospital privelages (i.e net access).

So where next? Any ideas?

~cem

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:28 pm

Renclothes
Boot

Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Posts: 13
Location: Texas

How about sending Bruce the actual video clips, or at least instructions on where to find them? I think his frustration is coming from the fact that he hasn't been sent anything tangible, just vague "we've got some information" kinds of things.

-Renclothes

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:45 pm

Resq32
Guest

Has anybody tried to check the accuracy of the time stamp?

Has anybody tried to contact the webmasterSPLATaspengrovepark.com to verify the timestamp on the videos?

Personally, I'm starting to think that we need to find the green man and/or detalis before we can go for Dale's release.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 3:49 pm

Guest
Guest

Re: Has anybody tried to check the accuracy of the time stam

Resq32 wrote:

Sorry, Got ahead of myself. I see someone has sent mail about hte timestamp. Detalis is supposed to be digitalis ( Blonde moment there).

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 4:32 pm

mopi
Veteran

Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Posts: 71
Location: Massachusetts

Re: Has anybody tried to check the accuracy of the time stam

Resq32 wrote:

i think you mean webmasterSPLATashgrovepark.com Smile

and we have already found the "green man" - he's sam greene, and is the aglauranj.org webmaster.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 4:33 pm

konamouse
Official uF Dietitian

Joined: 02 Dec 2002
Posts: 8010
Location: My own alternate reality

Bruce is getting friendlier (?)

Seems Bruce is willing to converse with me. I'm going to try to keep this open and if I can find out a little more about the man.

Here is my email, his response, and then my latest reply:

> Mr Abbott,
>
> I assure you, we have Dale's best interest in mind.
> And we want to solve the mystery that is brewing in
> Aglaura, NJ. However, a few of my friends haven't been
> too sure about *your* motives. *I* want to trust you.
> I know you cared about Diana, and I'm sure the
> thought of her death was very troubling.
> Attached should be an interesting file. It is
> something that Dale asked me to obtain for him when it
> became apparent to him that he was going to be sent to
> the mental hospital.
>
> Just ask yourself. If the accident occurred at 4:30p,
> how could Meaghan be alive and photographed at 4:33p?
> Was it her and Diana in the car? I can't say if there
> was someone else who died in that tragic accident (but
> Dale wasn't the kind of fellow to have a surrogate
> family). I'm saying that there are some strange things
> going on in Aglaura that just don't make much sense,
> and the "death" of Diana and Meaghan may have been the
> start of a bunch of other strange things.
>
> So, Mr. Abbott, are you with us? Or are you against
> us?
>
> HLB

First, is there any chance of you confirming your gender anytime soon.
It is very awkward to address someone as Dear Sir/Madam.

You appear to be taking a much more rational tone this time around --
let me make it clear that this is appreciated. I am certainly baffled that
anyone would imagine that I have anything other than Dale's best interests in mind
--
but then you don't have the personal history with Dale that I do as his
business partner and former roommate. Indeed, it is my understanding
from the last time that I checked in with Klepsydra that Dale appears to be getting
excellent care. His Doctor seems to be taking quite an active interest in his case.
I would assume this can only be for the good.

As to the information you've provided -- I have been out of town on
business for the past several days. I downloaded your email to my laptop, but I
can't seem to get this file to open. I'm hopeful that when I return back to the office
on Saturday that one of the programmers will be around and can help me.
This isn't the sort of file that I'm going to be embarrassed to have
them see, I hope. Anyway, please be patient -- I will try to get back to you in
a couple of days when I've had a chance to review what it is you've sent.

Sincerely
Bruce Abbott
--------------------------------------------------------

I'm sorry, Mr. Abbott, but I usually try to keep
myself gender-neutral in non-business communications
over the internet until I have established some sort
of "relationship" with the recipient. It's Heather
(if that helps).

It's really nice that you are still such a good friend
with Dale after all these years (some college
roommates get tired of eachother, or jealous of
relationships). I don't have any idea what happened
to my first roommate after she dropped out of college
a year later. We had nothing in commmon (except we
liked the same guy - she got the guy, I got the
"friendship" with the guy that ended up lasting a few
years longer than their "relationship"). Did you guys
have a lot in common when you first met, or develop
some similar interests during school? Well, you must
have, since you went into business with eachother.

I know what you mean about being able to open files. I
have been traveling myself these past two weeks and
stuck with a very slow phone modem connection
(compared to a cable modem in my own home) and this
file I sent you was very slow to load. However, I
tried to explained in the email what the file
contained (a short video of Meaghan, confirmed
accurate date & time stamp, alive at 4:33pm on Feb 14,
2003).

Please let me know what you think. I've heard from
some other friends that Dale may be released soon.
We're all so very happy for him (and you).

Hugs, Heather

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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 10:58 am

dmax
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Joined: 09 Jan 2003
Posts: 1387
Location: Location: Location!

video

Another possibility is that the girl in the video isn't Meaghan at all.

Bruce, if not Dale, could be a short cut to finding that out. It's an assumption that it's Meaghan that's made us think that the time - not the girl - is wrong. It could be that it's not her.

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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 1:57 pm

lanzz
Boot

Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Posts: 25

Re: video

dmax wrote:

that's an interesting line of thought - we could find that indeed dale is delusional, nothing strange happened, all mysterious events were staged by conspiracy theorists (think ecco's "foucault's pendulum", a great story for an ARG in my opinion, if only it wasn't widely known), and the game ends :)

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2003 6:34 am

konamouse
Official uF Dietitian

Joined: 02 Dec 2002
Posts: 8010
Location: My own alternate reality

Bruce continues the interaction

Heather:

Pleased to make your acquaintance, finally. Heather is a lovely name,
though I can appreciate your caution as a woman in revealing too much of yourself too soon.

I have been sitting here in my empty office for over two hours. I don't
know quite what to say about the video I've just seen. It is incredible . .
. it seems impossible to imagine . . . and yet if there were some way it
could be true . . .

Are you absolutely certain that this is not a fabrication of some kind?
If it is real it obviously puts everything we've all believed about the
accident in doubt. You'll pardon me, however, if I don't jump headlong into accepting this without outside verification. In the webdesign business, I'm all too familiar with the fact that we can turn the proverbial sow's ear into a silk purse.

Camera images can fool the naked eye, and time stamps can be
manufactured. I am certainly not accusing you of having done this . . . let's simply say for the moment that for my own peace of mind I need to be convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt. Is there any way I can contact the source of this video directly to ask them some questions? An email address or even a phone number -- or better yet, perhaps I will need to go speak to these individuals in person. I just need to be sure, before I dare to hope . . .

Any assistance you can provide in pointing me in the right direction
will be appreciated. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Sincerely
Bruce Abbott

Here is my reply. Be aware, others (not in UF) have already sent Bruce this information, so this email shouldn't "ruin" anything. I'm still trying to get an open dialogue working with him.

Bruce (may I call you Bruce?):

The time stamp on the video is confirmed by a number
of people who are much more computer literate than I
am. It came from Ash Grove Park (where Dale and his
family spent that fateful day).

Go to this url.
http://www.ashgrovepark.com/memory.html
Use this login: 99746403 and this passwd: 1bf33mx9
There are both snippits of video of Meaghan there
(she's adorable).

I hope you are feeling okay. I know that Dale has been
released from the hospital and hope that your
friendship will be a continued support to him. You
guys must have been pretty close.

Well, you have another friend here (me) if you need to
vent.

Heather

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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2003 11:49 am

konamouse
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Joined: 02 Dec 2002
Posts: 8010
Location: My own alternate reality

More from Bruce

--- babbottSPLATanonymousfame.com wrote:
>Heather:

Thanks for the kind words. After working past our initial difficulties, it would indeed appear that we can be friends -- certainly our purposes are united as far as helping Dale is concerned.

But about those videos -- I'm having the devil's own time getting hold of this Ash Grove Park. Both the url you sent me and their base webpage (ashgrovepark.com) appear to be not working. Moreover, when I tried to contact local information, they told me there was no listing for Ash Grove Park. How can an amusement park expect to make any money if it doesn't advertise itself to the public? If you know of any other way to contact them, please let me know.

I understand what you are saying about people who are more computer literate than you -- sometimes it seems like I must be in the wrong business, as everyone in my firm makes me look like a novice on the keyboard. Nonetheless, this is incredibly important information if it's proven to be true. At the same time, it's hard to understand why the town of Aglaura and the area police and hospitals would tell one story -- a story that is so shocking and affects one of its citizens so deeply -- if the facts indicate otherwise. I am having trouble grasping how this could happen -- perhaps that explains why I feel the need to prove it to myself first.

I hope to speak to Dale in person sometime in the next few days. Perhaps he will be in a better condition to explain his theories to me. But I just don't know if I'm prepared to believe.

Sincerely,
Bruce (by all means, call me Bruce)

And my response:

Hi Bruce.
Some friends of mine have speculated that Ash Grove Park may be an interdimensional place. We've been able to access their web pages, and have had some email conversations with their webmaster (Brent Bowers) for a few weeks. Then, poof, yesterday all of their sites went down and cannot be found on the internet. I guess we have no proof anymore (except what was archived by some my friends). I'm sorry I didn't contact you sooner.

You mentioned the Hospital...did you go to Greatwater General this past weekend? Someone picked up Dale's effects before he was released from Klepsydra. Was that you?

When you do speak with Dale, please keep an open mind. Let Dale explain from start to finish what happened. He'll explain with the type of detail that isn't typical for hallucinations.

Meanwhile, how are you doing yourself? You must be feeling some stress since you have to manage Dale's financial issues for the past few weeks. I'm sure he had some bills from the hospital, as well as his normal household bills of which to keep track. I was out of town for two weeks and had a huge stack of bills to deal with when I got back. Anyway, I hope you have some means of stress release (my favorites are either quiet, like massage, or noisy, like good music with dinner and dancing).

Happy thoughts, and a kiss,
Heather

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2003 3:39 am

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