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darkthrn
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Joined: 19 Mar 2003
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 		SPEC: Doorstep.jpg
I was sitting in #ctw, and had an insight. Price followed up, and Doorstep.jpg appears to be stegged. I double-checked this, and got the same results. No luck finding the passphrase yet, but with everyones eyes, I bet we can nail this. Oh..and I tried ephemeral Wink.

Darkthorn

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 2:20 am
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BrandonPrice
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 		For the record, the image is stegged using our friend jphide.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 2:22 am
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imbri
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 		here's the list of filenames that i've found so far along with the list that's included in mopi's archive of it:

2f87lw72djql927g5dr.html
2d44cd31cvbu3q60s2r.html
3r19bd32were321rb76.html
3r26kl32gutr28yr654.html
3s99vu22toad453npg1.html
4f85mw93oedl3216tc7.html
4r22cx81ffws38t31yw.html
5f31lk21ddcw42wtr34.html
5r55rr14jpeg31632t6.html
6x20ks51lpws20pt387.html
7b66ex21pirg7g498sd.html
7e88oo43tito4834f66.html
7u71gw82polk312ry53.html
7y29to51ddfc30p9it7.html
9i38yg71diys36y32e4.html
9n56em22cqkl825t999.html
9o22cq74note32814b9.html
9v43cd52ttto2e5rsi8.html
ba11lo28wqud363ty76.html
bn11dp18gflm6w334r8.html
bt35cz51llkk773829i.html
bt75nn33plsd1w222ft.html
df83jj43bigh76824u7.html
ee14fn29defc413f904.html
fd28sl58repo33t524z.html
fk09wq38wlcd29i73rt.html
fm11eg27flwo331qft6.html
gi28po11cred18k34r6.html
hq17dw28flir919twe4.html
lk42fu17rhjq41e3234.html
nh93ta36bole2311df5.html
no06dt34lkmn4d217v5.html
no12sp14cdfm76p1x2y.html
pl04yt15gift23ew43y.html
pr26xn10clut49s7mt6.html
rr71cc56aakd32869p3.html
sd13rt38xyce4r51m87.html
ss92wg48wyth89228tf.html
tn40sq25wqbr410pr87.html
vt49tv49push1n4135h.html
wf45yt67qaxc1875468.html
xr88ep48meet003n59t.html
yc39tw11hmkw26yr92w.html
yu36wt48ntlr6r91m2n.html
mjo4vv61tops2905615.html
rs82cy23budd433wd98.html

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 4:38 am
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Stevoid
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 		Here are the ones before the planets page...got very bored after chasing these ones down and gave up because the planets had been cracked by the time I got these...they may help in some way if it's a code though!

www.mythosphere.org
redirects to:
www.mythosphere.org/2728xt11notp1x23gy7.html

which (randomly?) produces one of 4 images (each loads with error on page each time on my PC - don't know if it's because of firewall but it doesn't seem to be...)

bird mx21pp10ewot2416mt7 ->6972ef34xxem96w42sl
tree mx98po40enntbfgrh4e ->[url=http://www.mythosphere.org/1164pr33namp115nton.html]
1164pr33namp115nton[/url]
beast mx73nq24cdry5gt6aas ->5120nt91sorn3uuu4yy
unicorn mx45zx39mnjh987yutf ->3644to72xotl0n4x321

before they move to planets page.

Hope someone is feeling bright out there...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 6:37 am
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 		what about "guides" for passcode?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 8:04 am
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Rob-
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 		SPEC: the filename holds the key
If you go through the maze start to finish, without error, you see a total of 12 loaded pages imo.. Coincidentally, the filename of the 12th page with doorstep.jpg on it is no12sp14cdfm76p1x2y.html It starts with 'no12'

from there I'm lost.. Am I just too tired and reading too much into this? Or missing something obvious?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 8:55 am
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lanzz
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 		Re: SPEC: the filename holds the key
Rob- wrote:
If you go through the maze start to finish, without error, you see a total of 12 loaded pages imo.. Coincidentally, the filename of the 12th page with doorstep.jpg on it is no12sp14cdfm76p1x2y.html It starts with 'no12'


you pass a total of 22 pages from index.html to doorstep page. of these 22 pages, 10 are randomizers which send you to a different page, the first randomizer is the page with the "mythosphere.org" shavian text. two are forwarders which send you always to a fixed url, that's the index page and the random page with a guide image. 9 are pages with the planets' image.

here is the complete trail (> is forwarder, ? is randomizer, - is page with planets): 



 1 > index


 2 ? 2728xt11notp1x23gy7


 3 > mx21pp10ewot2416mt7


 4 ? 6972ef34xxem96w42sl


 5 - yu36wt48ntlr6r91m2n


 6 ? hq17dw28flir919twe4


 7 - 4r22cx81ffws38t31yw


 8 ? 5f31lk21ddcw42wtr34


 9 - 2t73ch61trim45r43e2


10 ? nn53el41prot12748p6


11 - cb63tt19tlog51e47fn


12 ? 3s99vu22toad453npg1


13 - 8t67no54msqv12l055i


14 ? xr88ep48meet003n59t


15 - tt98gj17rfty61y2i7n


16 ? ba11lo28wqud363ty76


17 - 6t47ye13rfgv7665r90


18 ? 5t66cv33djke87y67we


19 - 3j18ce42dllo9o69e3d


20 ? fk09wq38wlcd29i73rt


21 - sw79rh21depl075yt23


22   no12sp14cdfm76p1x2y


i still believe there is something hidden here

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 9:40 am
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confucious
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 		I believe there are 2 other trails that lead to no12. Starting at step 6 hq17, there are also paths starting from tn40 and ss92

If you retrieve one the redirector pages (using wget or some other method), you'll see the paths that are made available. In the list lanzz pasted, 6972ef34xxem96w42sl randomly redirects to 1 of 9 pages. Depending on the page you get, the sun position will either be hq17, tn40, or ss92 redirector pages.

If you view one of those redirector pages, you'll get sent to 1 of 4 pages. One thing to note here is that regardless of starting from hq17,tn40 or ss92, the set of redirector pages will be the same set of 4.

It looks like redirector pages on the trail after this have a set of 3 random pages.

The redirector pages for off trail planets appear to have only one redirector.


So if you follow the trail multiple times, you should get a pretty random set of urls overall. This kind of makes me think that there's nothing in the URLs themselves.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 11:52 am
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strife777
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 		Can someone upload the doorstep.jpg thats supposedly stegged? The one I get off the website says not modified, which could just be Windows ME being retarded again Smile Thanks!

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dontera
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 		how does one dtermine if an image is stegged with jphide? One of the key features jphide touts is that you cannot tell it has been stegged...

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AnthraX101
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dontera wrote:
how does one dtermine if an image is stegged with jphide? One of the key features jphide touts is that you cannot tell it has been stegged...


You can always find a way to detect a steged image. Smile The progam best known for this is "stegdetect". You can find it off of google. Do note that you need to turn up the sensitivity.

The one on the website should be the correct image. Be sure to turn up the sensitivity by a factor of 2-4.

AnthraX101

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mottjr
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AnthraX101 wrote:


The one on the website should be the correct image. Be sure to turn up the sensitivity by a factor of 2-4.

AnthraX101
It's important to note that as you turn up the sensitivity you increase the odds of getting a false reading. Try the same sensitivity level on a few other images that you know are not stegged and see if you get any positive readings before you drive yourself nuts looking for a password that might not exist.

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mottjr
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 		FYI: Here was a discussion we had eons ago in another game that touches on this very topic.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jawbreak/message/3105

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NightShift6
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 		As a side note, I just happen to notice the faint dotted lines around the top three images. The first and third looks to be in a dotted-lined box, where the center image is outlined.

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dmax
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 		I noticed that as well. I think it's just an artifact of white around the images.

Perhaps the gods are quite adept at Photoshop yet?
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