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RobMagus
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It might say "PIE". eheh.
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:58 pm
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If there are any messages hidden in blue crayon, I can only make out the S as mentioned. I see no P, T, or other characters that are decipherable.
Under high contrast, an 'S' can be seen starting (as in the starting point where you'd normally begin writing an S) just below and to the left of the pinky finger of the left hand. It then runs it's course, with the rightward bulge clearly passing through the palm of the hand.
There also appears to be a line written in the same material (blue crayon seems a good guess) that runs across the very very bottom of the palm of the left hand. It's at an angle such that if it continued (which it doesn't) it would appear to touch the top of the thumb of the left hand.
Just thought I'd chip in.
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:59 am
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arghh.. I should probably create a username so that I can edit my posts.
Anyway, after removing the contrast I began to take a look over the image again. There appears to be another line that runs at an opposite angle to the bottom palm line that runs through the thumb print. I personally can't see it well enough to say for sure, but my roommates swear it looks like a capital A. I didn't say it.
There also appears to be traces of the crayon-like material below and in between the thumb prints of the hands. Again, hard to make anything out for sure, but my roommates (who evidently seem heavy into speculation) swear they see a lowercase, cursive 'L' there. I see no evidence of it.
As far as I know the entire crayon thing isn't anything, and without anything reflecting these letters in the patients painting, it might not be anything.
But who knows.
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 1:06 am
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Wow.. three posts in a row. I really, really promise I'll stop doing this soon.
There, that's some of the work I was doing.
1-'S' like shape
2-Line through bottom of palm
3-Line through thumb print
4-Traces of crayon present?
And, also. Going back to the patient's painting. It seems to me (speculation) that the letters in Jim Doe are written in different styles. The I, D, and O all seem to be very close in style to me. That spells 'I do'.. idle speculation.. but.. who knows.
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 1:22 am
herichon
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very nice work, transcendent-to-be... interesting stuff.
probably apropos of nothing - did anyone else notice the little red Y in the left hand pinky print?
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:36 pm
SkratchPikCarrtune
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Speaking of the "y" in the left hand pinky, (Good eye Herichon), I've noticed in the middle of the left palm, there is a splotch which looks like either an "x" or a "t". It's probably more likely a "t".
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:39 pm
RobMagus
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t y? thank you?
I think that the t and y are the normal paint residues (for lack of a better term) that are made when making a handprint like this.
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:09 am
SkratchPikCarrtune
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It may just be an accident, but the y at least is "too perfect" to be an accident. As for the t, I was thinking about it a little and it might be a +.
EDIT: On second thought, I was looking at that y again, it real isn't "that perfect" but whatever, it may be a y...
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:18 am
RobMagus
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The mind has a way of finding things that don't exist and seeing things that aren't there. I should know; I exploit this phenomenon as a hobby.
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 3:21 am
transcendent
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Yeah, I'm with RobMagus on the letters in the blood.
While the 'y' in the pinky does seem pretty accurate, there doesn't appear to be any other letters in there. Who knows.
Also, after staring and staring at those pictures looking for more.. anything. I'm beginning to think that those hands belong to two different people. The right hand appears larger, not only in palm size, but in finger size and finger length. I don't think that really helps us, but it is something I noticed, haha.
I'm also beginning to question the location of the handprints. It's clear that they are below the door handle, an odd place for them. An adult would have to be kneeling in front of the door and then place arms at their side, hands out to create such a scene. Lying on the ground is another possibility. Or the door handle could just be about six feet from the base of the door. Either way.
*sigh* The only other ARG I've (kinda, sorta) participated in was Acheron, so I'm pretty new to this. I wish there were some more clearly defined puzzles to sink into.. I'll even take playing chess with Reggie, haha.
Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:32 pm
RobMagus
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The handprint do actually look kind of small... perhaps they belong to a child.
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 2:26 pm
dishboy
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RobMagus wrote:
The handprint do actually look kind of small... perhaps they belong to a child.
I've been assuming all along they were prints from a child. I didn't bother mentioning it because I assumed everyone else would think the same thing...
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 3:34 pm
herichon
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might be seeing something where there isn't anything to see, but -
have a look at the attached. zoomed in on the right hand on the patient picture version of the hands (not the photo version).
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call me crazy but i am seeing three letters here - S J H. granted, the S is stretching a bit, but the other two seem pretty well defined. and i can't find anything in the 'photo version' of this pic (paint artifacts, etc) that would explain why the patient version would have these letter shapes here.
thoughts?
Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 3:44 pm
The Watcher
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That seems like a likely guess, herichon.
And there is a large S in the photo.
I've gotta try zooming all the different parts of this picture.
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So are these letters someone's initials?
Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:32 pm
graphite
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I'm going to make my first post on this after spending my entire afternoon at work finding out about this whole thing.
As for the two pictures. The Patient "art" was created in painter I am sure. Also they used the exact same picture they put on the site to make it. You can tell this because it even has some inconsitancies where the crayon goes over the hand print.
Anyways, with the supposed initials in the drawing on the right hand print. If you match it up with the photo you can actually see that is a artifact of the paint gradients and the way they ran the software to outline it. So I dont think there is anything there. However with the crayon, there is definatly something drawn there over the handprints. So I spent some time in photoshop trying to isolate it.
Here are my results http://home.exetel.com.au/graphite/bloodhandscopy.jpg
http://home.exetel.com.au/graphite/bloodhands-inverted.jpg
there you can see where I have traced the areas I could see crayon. The inverted image is actually inverted and color shifted, as well as a couple other image enhancing things.
Thats the best I could do. If anyone can make anything out of this then great. If not, then here is the file I used to compare these images
http://home.exetel.com.au/graphite/bloodhands.psd
Warning that it is 5 mbs large.
Also regarding the signature at the bottom, I fooled around with it a bunch, but couldn't get it to appear really any different or legible. I was thinking that it might just mean I'm doe. "I am doe" not sure about that one. Just looking at the patient records and stuff there was a 16 year old that was admitted as a John doe (Or Jane doe, I forget now.)
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:31 am
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