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[Titanium]

I am intrigued by the possibility of it being Boston. That may give me a good reason to go and visit some day. For you 48er's - maybe it's Ambrosia

[another_pilot_dwn]

ooooooo.....

[mycroftxxx]

I got one as well -
14696F
25d4h

My location is Houston, Texas.

[Pavoreax]

I think I've figured out these "F" distances.

Doing the math on all of the distances and times provided, 1F appears to be equivalent to about 2.47 minutes.

For example:

Austin, TX
15656F
26d, 19h (26 days, 19 hours)
= 38,580 minutes
/ 15656F = 2.464 minutes/F

The math works out about the same for all of the distances provided.

Next, I set out to find a location that would fit these distances to determine both the location of the "Prison City" and the scale of the "F" unit. To do this, I set up a map in Illustrator, with circles centered on the known cities. The circles were the right proportion to each other and I gradually expanded them, maintaining their proportions until I found the spot where they overlapped. The result of this was that I found a location where the arcs centered on Austin, Rochester, and Richmond converged, but I could not make the Mendon circle match up. Plus, the point where they intersected was in the Atlantic Ocean, just off the coast of Massachusetts.

My conclusion from this was that the distances being measured were possibly not crow-flies distances, but travel distances, like one would get from Google Maps. So, I pulled up Google Maps to do a little investigation.

As happens almost every time I use GMaps, I found a new feature. You can now choose whether you are driving, taking public transit, or walking. You get different directions and travel times for each mode of transportation. And what do you know - the times for walking directions from the different cities to areas around Boston were pretty damn close to the times given by Songwraith.

I am prepared to say at this point that the day-hour-minute times given by Songwraith are the travel time given by Google directions for walking.

So, what, then is an "F" unit? Well, using Google maps again, it appears that their quoted walking time is just a calculation based on walking a constant pace of about 5kph. Given that, and the known times and "F" distances, 1F appears to be about 201.137 meters. That is, 1/8 mile, or one furlong. So, "F" stands for furlong.

Now, to determine the location of the Prison City. It's somewhere around Boston, but it doesn't appear to be Boston itself. The best candidate I have found so far is Plymouth, MA, but for Plymouth, the distance from Mendon, MA is way off.

City.................Expected Time.......To Boston.........To Plymouth
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Austin, TX........26d, 19h...............26d, 12h...........26d, 19h
Mendon, MA.....12h, 39m..............11h, 25m..........17h, 4m
Rochester, NY...5d, 15h.................5d, 5h..............5d, 15h
Richmond, VA...7d, 20h................7d, 17h.............7d, 19h
Houston, TX......25d, 4h................25d, 1h.............25d, 4h

So, maybe the PM made a mistake in the distance from Mendon to Plymouth, or maybe there is another location candidate that will work better. It's late and I've been searching for a while now. Maybe someone else can find it.

Conclusions:

1. "F" = furlong and is based on walking distance, not straight-line distance
   
2. Times to the "Prison City" are walking travel times as quoted by GMaps
   
3. The Prison City is somewhere near Boston
   

[zilla92]

[another_pilot_dwn]

@Pavoreax: wow that's terriffic! If I had karma to give I would!

but all I can give you is this humble

[Titanium]

I just found out yesterday about the option of walking directions on google maps and I did not make the connection - that was very good!

[Efrain]

hi everyone. joining in here, hopefully helping out some, after the dud of CF that was iamblind.org....

This trailhead interested me with the first video, but now I'll be able to devote a few more mouse clicks to it for sure.

cheers.

[Lairosiel]

I'm in now too

[codeTONY]

moi aussi. some interesting things going on here.

sent in a pm to the PM. I'm hoping to get caught up.

[LaughingWolf]

Good work Tresbien, you've pulled a fair number of ARGers from the iamblind thread into this one! You guys seem to have uncovered some complex and fascinating information...having little else to contribute at this time, I'll send my location in to Songwraith as well.

[Tarq]

I'm keeping tabs on this as well; looks interesting. I'm in Australia, so I can tell you right now that I'm nowhere near Prison City (unless you count convict colonies), but if you wanted me to send word of my location to songwraith to get an international reaction then I would. Have my senses deceived me, or did someone say he was from Germany?

A lot of interesting stuff uncovered here. Has anyone looked into the "players" described by the PM and the characters in the movie? Busy now, but if I don't get word back soonish then I'll look it up myself.

EDIT: Okay, looking into characters now. The phrasing of the video makes it somewhat unclear as to whether or not "the founder" is being described as "a man of eternal sorrow" or whether Sorrow Man is a completely different character; similarly, the "hanged bride" may or may not be the "witch of Monaco", and so on and so forth. To this end, I put forward the following alternate transcription of the second video:

[Tresbien]

Welcome Tarq. I had the same question you did about the cast of players and sent this message to Songwraith:

[karlosuk]

Hey guys

Been a long time since I've had time to come here but I'm back for this.

I've sent a message to Songwraith as I'm in the UK asking the location to Prison City.
Here's my response from him :

"Only the dead can travel the way of Hervagault"


This sounds to me like you guys that have received locations are the "dead" or the "future dead". If thats the case, then the timing on the locations could be the time it takes for whatever the killer is (virus etc) to reach you. This would tie in with what locations we have so far, with the TX locations being 25-26d and the NY and VA ones being 5-7d.
This would then have a point of origin near Mendon.

Going to look into Hervagault now.... that bored at work

[Pavoreax]

Assuming we are in the ballpark with the Prison City being located in the Massachusetts area, one would have to travel across the Atlantic to get there from the UK. Perhaps that is the meaning of "the way of Hervagault"

I'm not sure if it's relevant, but here are Hervagault's Breakers: