View topic - [39C] The 39 Clues

unforum
a.r.g.b.b

Welcome!

New users, PLEASE read these forum guidelines. New posters, SEARCH before posting and read these rules before posting your killer new campaign. New players may also wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial.

All users must abide by the Terms of Service.

Website Restoration Project

This archiving project is a collaboration between Unfiction and Sean Stacey (SpaceBass), Brian Enigma (BrianEnigma), and Laura E. Hall (lehall) with
the Center for Immersive Arts.

Announcements

This is a static snapshot of the
Unfiction forums, as of
July 23, 2017.

This site is intended as an archive to chronicle the history of Alternate Reality Games.

Our Esteemed Contributors

The time now is Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:24 pm
All times are UTC - 4 (DST in action)

View posts in this forum since last visit
View unanswered posts in this forum

Calendar

Forum index » Archive » Archive: Ephemeral » ARG: 39 Clues

[39C] The 39 Clues

Page 43 of 371 [5564 Posts]

Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, ..., 369, 370, 371 Next

Author

Message

aliceinwunderland
Decorated

Joined: 20 Oct 2008
Posts: 250
Location: Texas

Alcatraz and famous architect

While I should have been studying for my mid-term, guess what I have been doing? I just picked up 3 more packs of cards and have been adding them. I have some that I am looking to trade, so I will be contacting Maggie. Smile

I got so many new ones! But I can't believe how many I am still missing! I have 63 cards and 12 are missing. That only adds up to 75, but I thought TheRealPip was using a count of 78. And to make it even more confusing, I am lacking only 7 of the 12 (based upon 17-22 and 33-38 not released yet). Now I understand why people keep asking questions about the number of cards, etc. Pretty tiring, really.

And now the real reason, I started this post....I don't recall anyone mentioning the code from Stolen Archive file 53: Screenshot of an Alcatraz gift shop website. Not that I think we can do anything with the info, but it reads "Look under the Lighthouse".

When I read about the "famous architect" that Grace hired to build "the rock", I googled it. Probably referring to Louis Isadore Kahn. I didn't read up on what he was famous for, though.

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:43 pm

wacaga
Veteran

Joined: 28 Oct 2008
Posts: 106

Re: Alcatraz and famous architect

aliceinwunderland wrote:

TheRealPip and almost all of us are counting 78. 6(fromBook1)+55(card packs)+9(the 400's)=70. In "My Cards" we are all showing 8 cards still missing. We, for 1, believe these 8 cards must appear before Book 2 is released. So, since you are pretty good on theory, how can you enlighteness us in this very curious situation?

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:53 am

Maggie
Veteran

Joined: 18 Sep 2008
Posts: 128

Iron Solute

I found this interesting. At the Franklin Institute, one of the letters Amy and Dan use the black light on read:

The 39 Clues: The Maze of Bones, Chapter 8, page 93 wrote:

Sir,-I wrote to you lately via New York, which I hope may come to hand. I have only time now to desire you to send me the following items, viz.

1 Doz. - Cole's Eng. Dictionaries
3 Doz. - Mathers Young Man's Compan'n
1 Qty. - Iron Solute
2 - Quarter Waggoners for America

Cole's Eng. Dictionaries
In 1676, Elisha Cole wrote the English Dictionary made up of 26,000 words; the most difficult coming from arts, science, crafts, and canting words.

Wikipedia wrote:

Cant:
Cant is an example of an argot or cryptolect, a characteristic or secret language used only by members of a group, often used to conceal the meaning from those outside the group.

Wikipedia wrote:

Argot:
Argot (French, Spanish and Catalan for "slang") is a secret language used by various groups�including, but not limited to, thieves and other criminals�to prevent outsiders from understanding their conversations.

Victor Hugo was one of the first to research argot extensively [1]. He describes it in his novel, Les Mis�rables, as the language of the dark; at one point, he says, "What is argot; properly speaking? Argot is the language of misery."

The earliest known recording of the term "argot" was in 1628, and the word probably derives from the name, les argotiers, given to a group of thieves at that time.[1]

Under the strictest definition, an argot is a proper language, with its own grammar and style. Nevertheless, the term is also often used to describe coded systems such as verlan and louch�bem, which retain French syntax and only apply transformations to individual words (and often only to a certain subset of words, such as nouns, or semantic content words).[2] Such systems are examples of argots � clef, or "coded argots." [3]

Mather's Young Man's Companion

Wiley's Interscience wrote:

Mather's Young Man's Companion is the first accounting book written in Philadelphia in 1737 and was republished in 1748 by Benjamin Franklin who gave credit to the proper author, George Fisher, who was once thought to be a woman. Knowledge of the Young Man's Companion adds an important dimension to our understanding of the development of accounting in America.

Iron Solute
I didn't know if we were looking at this backwards and Iron Solute is Resolution, not the other way around.

Quarter Wagonners for America
I haven't anything on this. Any suggestions??

_________________
I need the following and I am willing to take new or used cards:

11, 13, 16, 24, 31, 45, 53, 104, 105, 115, 131, and 138

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:32 pm

aliceinwunderland
Decorated

Joined: 20 Oct 2008
Posts: 250
Location: Texas

8 Empty Card Slots

wacaga wrote:

aliceinwunderland wrote:

I have 63 cards and 12 are missing. That only adds up to 75, but I thought TheRealPip was using a count of 78.

My bad... I am missing 15 cards (I wasn't counting the last 3 on page 4). I feel much better now. So, you are saying that the 8 missing cards must appear before book 2? I don't see how that is a necessity. Recall that the cards are for books 1-3. I would accept that the 8 cards will show up prior to the release of Book 4, but not before Book2.

I don't really a theory (nothing to base it on), but I do have an idea. We know at some point we are going to be able to combine cards. When we combine cards to solve missions, what if we actually create a new card? Those eight slots could be where the combination cards go.

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:29 pm

ommmm
Boot

Joined: 20 Sep 2008
Posts: 14

Re: Iron Solute

Maggie wrote:

Quarter Wagonners for America
I haven't anything on this. Any suggestions??

I found a link to an article with actual unpublished letters of Ben Franklin to a bookseller in London.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/188801/franklin-letters

While I'm not sure what it's about, Quarter Wagonners for America is the title of a book. So if everything Franklin was ordering were books, maybe "Iron Solute" or "Resolution" is part of the title of a book?

That makes me wonder if the other two clues are also anagrams that will lead to the title of a book as the final clue?

Would make sense since this game is a Scholastic event.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:05 am

ommmm
Boot

Joined: 20 Sep 2008
Posts: 14

On the other hand, 39 words is a lot for the title of a book... nevermind on that speculation.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:07 am

tyty2001
Veteran

Joined: 11 Oct 2008
Posts: 111
Location: a home where i sleep and am fed :)

yep cause i have 68 cards and im missing 10 (im missing cards 31 and 60) so ya i think the 8 cards that are missing are the other sharable code cards cause arent we missing 8 of those and the sharable code cards dont help us at all really thats what i saw online at 39clues.com

_________________
i ROCK your SOCKS

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:17 am

wacaga
Veteran

Joined: 28 Oct 2008
Posts: 106

tyty2001 wrote:

There are no more shareable codes. The 8 cards you are referring to are Physical cards of the 400's which have duplicate codes of the 1's you already have.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:37 am

ommmm
Boot

Joined: 20 Sep 2008
Posts: 14

A little more digging... Quarter Wagonners were sea atlases.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:19 am

RUSTY96
Boot

Joined: 31 Oct 2008
Posts: 11
Location: Sydney

Anna Flores

Has anyone else notice Irina Spansky in the background of 1 of the Anna Flores pictures???
Also, wat are the 8 sharable card codes????
Are they the 400s Ive heard mentioned, as Im missing about 20 cards still
Thanks
RUSTY

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:19 am

aliceinwunderland
Decorated

Joined: 20 Oct 2008
Posts: 250
Location: Texas

Current theory on the 8 empty slots

wacaga wrote:

tyty2001 wrote:

There are no more shareable codes. The 8 cards you are referring to are Physical cards of the 400's which have duplicate codes of the 1's you already have.

Wacaga, I am not following your logic. Isn't tyty2001 referring to the same 8 empty slots that you are referring to? The perfectly valid idea that tyty2001 puts forth is that the 8 empty card slots will be sharable cards. How can you say that there are no more sharable card codes? What do you base that upon?

I agree with tyty2001 that there must be more sharable card codes. And I think they will be made available with the release of Books 2 and 3. Just my opinion... so nix my idea that we use the slots for combined cards and replace it with this. Smile

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:13 am

Maggie
Veteran

Joined: 18 Sep 2008
Posts: 128

Re: Iron Solute

ommmm wrote:

I found it interesting that they didn't write the entire list down and Iron Solute wasn't mentioned, which makes me think that Iron Solute is Resolution as it was one of Ben Franklin's Virtues.

Resolution: Resolve to perform what you ought; perform without fail what you resolve.

_________________
I need the following and I am willing to take new or used cards:

11, 13, 16, 24, 31, 45, 53, 104, 105, 115, 131, and 138

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:15 am

sapagoo
Charter Member

Joined: 25 Sep 2002
Posts: 1213
Location: Atlanta, GA

ommmm wrote:

A little more digging... Quarter Wagonners were sea atlases.

Quarter Waggoners were named after a Dutch cartographer Lucas Waghenaer /Wagenaer (1534-1606).

In 1745, Franklin advertised for sale the 4th book of the "English Pilot" (published 1737).
This sea atlas covered much of the American/Atlantic coast, including the area between the Bahamas & Bermuda.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:19 am

wacaga
Veteran

Joined: 28 Oct 2008
Posts: 106

Re: Anna Flores

RUSTY96 wrote:

They are the 400's. You can go to various.wikibruce.com/39Clues or you look at previous postings here, maybe around p.6 or p.7.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:58 pm

Tennekrone
Guest

Random Thoughts

Hey, just some random thougths here. I don't know if anybody else noticed the acryllic writing at the bottom of the Heinrich Heinrichson card. I also don't know how many of you read Russian. So, just some info, it means KGB Archive. Probably doesn't matter, but hey.

Also, I read in an earlier post that one of the most common iron solutes was oxygen, and in another post that phosphorus begins to glow when exposed with oxygen-- and that being in a glass tube would sustain that glow. Don't know if they have anything to do with each other here, with the clues, but in The Maze of Bones there is that glowing substance in a glass tube. Perhaps the lightning was some way of activating phosphorus in the tube. Or perhaps I'm just insane.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:48 pm

Display posts from previous: Sort by:

Page 43 of 371 [5564 Posts]

Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, ..., 369, 370, 371 Next

Forum index » Archive » Archive: Ephemeral » ARG: 39 Clues

Jump to:

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum